ever take the flint ,wrap it in the spring ,heat it up and toss it on the ground ?
ERR... UNFLUSHED CANNABIS ...CONTAINING CHEMICAL COMPOUNDS FROM THE FERTILIZER.SAFE?!
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No. But you are making me want to, can I scare my wife with this?
frito bandito
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Tap water here is good shit, low PPM, around 120-130 IIRC. I'll let yall know what happens with it...
You heat the flint to white hot... when it hits the floor it bursts into a shower of sparks. Pretty cool but mostly harmless. Extremely HOT... so be careful.
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I do not flush because I have either over feed didn't manage my medium well LOL.. I flush because I don't want this excess SHIT in my weed when I smoke it. My weed burns with a grey ash not black from too many nutes till the end. I think ppl go way too far when they push the plant till the end and btw it tastes like shit too headband 707
Yes but this isn't for hydro right? Are you using soil or perlite with vermiculite?I do not flush because I have either over feed didn't manage my medium well LOL.. I flush because I don't want this excess SHIT in my weed when I smoke it. My weed burns with a grey ash not black from too many nutes till the end. I think ppl go way too far when they push the plant till the end and btw it tastes like shit too headband 707
Yeah good point I used soil pro 4 mix and it has perlite no vermiculite although I don't see that much difference between the two? No not hydro but pretty close to it lol headband 707
The vermiculite holds water and perlite doesn't, popular when mixed about 50/50 w/perlite for soil-less mixes. Sphagnum moss also popular to mix with. Since your using promix I'd guess that does the job of holding water, etc...Yeah good point I used soil pro 4 mix and it has perlite no vermiculite although I don't see that much difference between the two? No not hydro but pretty close to it lol headband 707
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Iffy-Caradoc
Yeah JBonez, get ur point about the final yield & I guess my view of nutrients certainly isn't based on knowledge, far from it. For me personaly, it's about the headaches. I smoke to relieve my pain & because I love it - simple. Un-flushed bud however merely adds to it. I know other people who also complain of 'nutcrackers' when they smoke unflushed.
PS I would never dream of calling you a slouch!
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its slow right now lol. and yes we all know feeding till the chop gives inferior end product.
Lots of veteran growers would disagree but to each his own. I've personally never encountered a strain that ceases to have nutritional needs towards the end of its life. You are starving your plants by feeding with only water and subsequently harvesting a deficient plant. If deficient plants yielded the highest quality smoke, all of our first grows would have been our best.
what we need to do is get a couple zones sent to a reputable couple of growers and perform a double blind study. Ive done this myself with inconclusive results... But the variables werent consistent, so I cant say that what I did offered conclusive, objective data to make a decision on.
We each have our own ideas, and they can only matter to us as individuals. If a man is blind, you will not make him see, and that goes for both sides of the argument. Its a standoff, similar to the feud between religious folks and the science guys..
Taste can only be described in a subjective way. Subjective statements cannot be verified with conventional technology. Now, of course, the sheer amount of those advocating flushing create a mathematical probability based on data, this is statistics..
Problem I have with this "statistical bias" is that most growers, and yes most, dont have a fucking clue what they are doing... When you are a pro from start to finish, and you actually know how to cure your product, come on over to the circle of trust, but I dont see that very often.. What I actually see is a lot guys throwing up what they were told, just because they were told, not based on evidence, but because they were spreading the hearsay along, again, no where in science is subjective data accepted as anything other than "theory" And that is why flushing is a theory, not a fact..
What can flushing hurt? nothing but yield imo... Wet bud still burns black, I dont care if its flushed or not..
Most dont wanna admit they dont have the balls to put that shit in a jar for 3 weeks minimum after the stems are crackin right, always rushin the shit out to the streets to get that $. This is why my product is revered in my demographic, and growers keep comin my way to get their game up, I aint a pro in nothing, just a clever individual, who accepts nothing but his own assertions, call me confident or arrogant, Ive no use for those terms.
I could argue in FAVOR of flushing better than what Im seeing here.. taste? cmon, I cant borrow your taste buds can I, and its not as if I can read your mind now is it?
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We each have our own ideas, and they can only matter to us as individuals. If a man is blind, you will not make him see, and that goes for both sides of the argument. Its a standoff, similar to the feud between religious folks and the science guys..
Taste can only be described in a subjective way. Subjective statements cannot be verified with conventional technology. Now, of course, the sheer amount of those advocating flushing create a mathematical probability based on data, this is statistics..
Problem I have with this "statistical bias" is that most growers, and yes most, dont have a fucking clue what they are doing... When you are a pro from start to finish, and you actually know how to cure your product, come on over to the circle of trust, but I dont see that very often.. What I actually see is a lot guys throwing up what they were told, just because they were told, not based on evidence, but because they were spreading the hearsay along, again, no where in science is subjective data accepted as anything other than "theory" And that is why flushing is a theory, not a fact..
What can flushing hurt? nothing but yield imo... Wet bud still burns black, I dont care if its flushed or not..
Most dont wanna admit they dont have the balls to put that shit in a jar for 3 weeks minimum after the stems are crackin right, always rushin the shit out to the streets to get that $. This is why my product is revered in my demographic, and growers keep comin my way to get their game up, I aint a pro in nothing, just a clever individual, who accepts nothing but his own assertions, call me confident or arrogant, Ive no use for those terms.
I could argue in FAVOR of flushing better than what Im seeing here.. taste? cmon, I cant borrow your taste buds can I, and its not as if I can read your mind now is it?
cheers!
I don't think you can really 'flush' the nutes out of a plant, what flushing is doing is starving the plant, making is use up nutes from the storage 'leaves' and thus you have a transferred nutes to others parts are the plants..
second as someone mentioned, I do believe water curing will leech nutes out of the plant, what nutes can be leeched out, I am still wondering myself..
second as someone mentioned, I do believe water curing will leech nutes out of the plant, what nutes can be leeched out, I am still wondering myself..
No... but lab tests will tell you that there's excess nutrients left in "feed till harvest" meds.
I've done both... and yeah, my stuff is cured at least 3 weeks as well and is dank as hell. Unflushed tastes (to someone as super sensitive as I am) totally and completely different from flushed/faded meds. Quite to the negative.
Doing taste tests with the 'average' joe is pretty much pointless.
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thought you were referring to brix, but that didnt sound right for some reasonNo... but lab tests will tell you that there's excess nutrients left in "feed till harvest" meds.
I've done both... and yeah, my stuff is cured at least 3 weeks as well and is dank as hell. Unflushed tastes (to someone as super sensitive as I am) totally and completely different from flushed/faded meds. Quite to the negative.
Doing taste tests with the 'average' joe is pretty much pointless.
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actually check this vid, pretty informative.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvRSKiCabJo
NotaProfessor
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Which lab tests will tell this? Please be specific.
How does this "must flush" philosophy extend to outdoor in-the-soil grows where all the nutrients are available right up to chop? By your statements outdoor weed is unpalatable to you then?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
viable argument, and I support this, but HS i dont think said anything about organic, he may flush that as well, and Ive heard of this, even in organic.
Anyone smoking outdoor organic isnt complaining about taste..
Here is the thing, organic and chelated mineral nutrients are both the same thing, the way they are brought into the plant is different, and other processes are needed to make this happen but the end result is the same, a plant is taking in nutrients, but you dont have to flush the organic one? This to me construes an illusion...
Lol, I just read somewhere that a sodium molecule is similar enough to phosphorous to be absorbed in the event phosphorous isnt present.. I just hope that is a true statement, lol...
outdoors in soil most nutes are used up by end of flower . mostly n for sure. to each their own. glad i aint smoking any fed till the end tho. well other than about 4 oz of sour b
I have no idea what the specific tests are... I'm not a lab tech. I do know the tests exist and can be done at labs that test cannabis.
Outdoor that is over amended... definitely unpalatable, or at least not desireable. Should be yellowed out and almost dead at harvest... Another subject for another time.
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