Advanced Nutrients PH Perfect - Review

[bud-e]

I spent an hour on the phone with their guy John over the same thing, basically he told me, aside from scaling up from 1ml to 4ml on the base when the plants are babies, you want to follow the schedule verbatim.

The lack of ppms is because due to the buffers and other stuff added, it reads differently than a standard base nute, so it would just cause confusion.

Basically they want you to just follow the chart, if your rez requires a lot of top ups between their recommended weekly rez change, they recommend going half strength on the base for topping up.

I was concerned about the pH as well, they told me not to touch it, that the chelates and other stuff they add would keep the plants uptaking everything... I just have it running on a small dwc closet right now, but no yellowing or deficiency signs so far, so hopefully its all good.

This has been my experience too. I started out trying to overthink it like I think a lot of experienced growers do. Luckily I didn't screw anything up really before I relaxed and just trusted the nutes to do what they say they will.

I talked to them on the phone for awhile asking a bunch of questions. Then I thought of more questions, called again... you get the idea.

But yeah that's the way it is. Apparently the pH can be crazy high or low and the plants will still drink up nutes like it's right where it's supposed to be but even so I haven't seen any spikes up or down. Whatever they've done to make it auto-set the pH is pretty impressive.


It's funny that this line is actually easier for newbs to use than experienced growers sometimes. A buddy of mine started growing maybe a year ago and he's used nothing but the pH Perfect and never had an instant of trouble. He literally has no idea how to adjust his pH and probably has never checked it since I showed him how to when he was just starting out. Another guy I know hates the pH Perfect because he couldn't stop messing with it and screwing it up. He just rage-quit and went back to GH and I guess he's happy to constantly stressing over his pH and ppm.

He just couldn't relax and let the nutes do the work for him.

 

[LyryC]

Sensi Grow A+B pH Perfect Update*

WOW! I dont know why I wanted to flush twice, but I didn't as I said I would before.

I ph'd my water to 5.8. After adding nutes pH was 6.5 ppm just under 1000. Made 1 Gallon. Watered after 1 flush.

Two days later and you can tell the difference. I really want to add pics and go into a big thorough explanation about my feeding and the plants but I have a tray of clones coming up and soon they will be going through a much better documented cycle, done proper and with pictures starting from time of planting.

For now the Sensi Grow is making a difference. The nitrogen uptake has increased because everything is now much more green and healthy looking. Lots of big new roots at the bottom, eager for Hugos, in my Delta 8s. A couple plants literally grew a few inches within a few days. Some of my plants are terrible looking and I'm going to see just how well this might reverse all that stress/damage.

For now its off to the hydro store for some Hugo's and more Delta 8s as the clone tray will be done by the weekend.

 

[decrimCA]

Sensi Grow A+B pH Perfect Update*

WOW! I dont know why I wanted to flush twice, but I didn't as I said I would before.

I ph'd my water to 5.8. After adding nutes pH was 6.5 ppm just under 1000. Made 1 Gallon. Watered after 1 flush.

Two days later and you can tell the difference. I really want to add pics and go into a big thorough explanation about my feeding and the plants but I have a tray of clones coming up and soon they will be going through a much better documented cycle, done proper and with pictures starting from time of planting.

For now the Sensi Grow is making a difference. The nitrogen uptake has increased because everything is now much more green and healthy looking. Lots of big new roots at the bottom, eager for Hugos, in my Delta 8s. A couple plants literally grew a few inches within a few days. Some of my plants are terrible looking and I'm going to see just how well this might reverse all that stress/damage.

For now its off to the hydro store for some Hugo's and more Delta 8s as the clone tray will be done by the weekend.

I'm a pH Perfect Sensi A and B user and it's really working for me too. Love to see experiences from other growers too.

Thanks for sharing this experience!!

 

[decrimCA]

I'm a pH Perfect Sensi A and B user and it's really working for me too. Love to see experiences from other growers too.

Thanks for sharing this experience!!

PS - post pics as soon as you can!!!!!

 

[Ziggaro]

Do you guys use the Sensi A+B without any additives?
I've been wanting to give it a try but don't want to have to buy all those bottles..

 

[TREE KING]

Do you guys use the Sensi A+B without any additives?
I've been wanting to give it a try but don't want to have to buy all those bottles..

everyone is always confused about this you dont have to buy all those bottles all you need is the a&b thats it. i think you should use the big bud/overdrive combo in flower though cause it will increase yield. the additives are just extras if you choose that you wanna add more things for whatever reasons

 

[TribalSeeds]

everyone is always confused about this you dont have to buy all those bottles all you need is the a&b thats it. i think you should use the big bud/overdrive combo in flower though

Now Im confused... Did you use the rest of your 2.5 gal bottle of Bud Candy to make cookies or something?
Have you done a run yet without the b-52, or barricade, or are you saying it didnt make a difference? Were you doing side by sides? Also wondering if youve done a run without big bud/overdrive with any nutrient line to be able to post trash like this...
Actually I posted cuz Im curious about your experience with Bud XL. Did you find that didnt save your plants from dying either?

 

[LyryC]

Sensi Grow A+B pH Perfect Update*

No pictures, no time for all that uploading business.

I was adding B-52 to my grow mix, but I decided against it recently.

It is advised by AN to use when in Veg and Flower but guess what AN, fuck you. That shit is expensive and I realized that I've spent A LOT more money on nutrients than most people for a first time grow choosing AN. With that said I am going to just use Sensi Grow A+B pH Perfect with no additives.

For my older plants I have added h2O2 and Hygrozyme with the last of the Sensi Grow A+B pH Perfect with B-52, since they have been in veg for a very long time. And this one time treatment won't be done again until right after I switch to 12/12 a month or so away. Any Advise on Hygrozyme and H2O2 would be helpful, thx.

What pisses me off is the F-1. I was advised to buy it as a foliar spray and have done so and used it until one call with AN I was told the new Sensi Grow A+B pH Perfect has Fulvic and Humic Acid already in it and that Foliar Spraying with F-1 was not necessary and unadvised. That's AN's bullshit for yah... They need to update their calculator and feeding charts and really buckle down those Level packaged nutrients and make real feed charts. Just to give you a guideline, I never follow exactly what they say.

My older plants still don't need a watering (hand watering in Grodan Delta8's/Hugos) but I just watered my new tray from last week after they rooted into the delta 8s like champions, all the way thru. Now on Week 2 and using the Week 2 http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/nutrient_calculator_old/ Seedling/Rootling ratio's for 1 gallon without pH'ing the water and with no additives. Just under 4.54 with 4ml for the gallon, thats 1ml a liter, roughly. 458ppms.

I'm going to see how alone, the Sensi Grow A+B pH Perfect work with the new cuts that are fully rooted and my mature very rooted plants. No pH adjustment and using filtered tap water coming in at just under 300 ppms not great, I know. I can buy R/O water but don't know if it will make the difference. I see amazing buds grown with tap water.

Overall at this point in time I wish I had Sensi Grow A+B pH Perfect much sooner so that I could of used it for all my plants. But I messed up and actually began veg with Connoisseur and ya long story short, this new tray is going to be done correct, so that hopefully, when I do flower, its as good as I want.

* Vegging with connoisseur is intense, the burn from it on the plants was mind boggling over time and there were deficiencies out the ass. Overall those plants actually look amazing right now but that was after tweaking the Conni to provide a more balanced NPK ratio for vegging, and of course I had additives, nothing like Bud Factor X or something for flower, but B-52, Voodoo, and Pirahna.

I actually did the new tray cube soak with pirahna and voodoo but just the week 1 mix, and I will not be using them again until switch to 12/12 but will use for first 3 weeks as recommended.

I am a newbie but I literally read, research and study this amazing hobby everyday through ICmag and a few other sources and soon with finances dialed in so will this and the challenge of being a successful AN Connoisseur grower. Might be a few runs

Thanks for reading my update, if you have questions, comments, concerns? let me know ha.

Cheers!

 

[LyryC]

Now Im confused... Did you use the rest of your 2.5 gal bottle of Bud Candy to make cookies or something?
Have you done a run yet without the b-52, or barricade, or are you saying it didnt make a difference? Were you doing side by sides? Also wondering if youve done a run without big bud/overdrive with any nutrient line to be able to post trash like this...
Actually I posted cuz Im curious about your experience with Bud XL. Did you find that didnt save your plants from dying either?

This makes no sense, as well as your curiosity about using Bud XL to save dying plants... AN makes Revive, which I have heard and read good things about from people who have used it.

Bud Candy to make cookies? Please elaborate.

 

[TREE KING]

i agree LyryC fuck using additives in veg its just a waste of money the 2 part is all you need. i did notice though when using silicate fungus gnats wont even come near my rockwool so if you got gnats you might wanna try that out. shit works better than any other thing ive tried to put in the res

 

[TREE KING]

This makes no sense, as well as your curiosity about using Bud XL to save dying plants... AN makes Revive, which I have heard and read good things about from people who have used it.

Bud Candy to make cookies? Please elaborate.

he's just being a smart ass cause he thinks anyone that uses AN is getting scammed and is a dumb ass. dont pay him no mind he's a moron

 

[TribalSeeds]

This makes no sense, as well as your curiosity about using Bud XL to save dying plants... AN makes Revive, which I have heard and read good things about from people who have used it.

Bud Candy to make cookies? Please elaborate.

Tree is right, that was a question directed at him. Dont let him fool you, he cant resist the temptation of a good marketing scheme.

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no its only day 14 so no additives yet. i gotta change the res tomorrow than il start with b-52, big bud, and bud candy at 33% ml of the 2 part bloom. im not measuring by the gallon. i ran the grow the first 2 weeks


im not using any other additives except barricade

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bud candy has alot more stuff in it than molasses including Arabinose, Dextrose, Glucose, Maltose and Xylose from Raw Cane Extract, Malt Extract, Cranberry Extract and other premium carbohydrate sources. its carboload and sweatleaf in one bottle. im not sure but i think its also not as thick as molasses and that makes it easier for the plants to take it up through the roots. i saw a comparison grow with molasses, bud candy, bud xl and something else i forget and the plants grown with bc had more crystals than everything else. bud xl had the heaviest buds though. im acually gonna start using bud xl and bud candy at the same time starting this crop. i forgot to list bud xl in what im using earlier i think you start it like week 5 i gotta get down to the store to buy some

 

[LyryC]

i agree LyryC fuck using additives in veg its just a waste of money the 2 part is all you need. i did notice though when using silicate fungus gnats wont even come near my rockwool so if you got gnats you might wanna try that out. shit works better than any other thing ive tried to put in the res

Which Silicate do you use? I have Rhino Skin, I'm not sure if I can use it in veg, but with that said. I have wounded a plant taking clones and sliced into the stalk. Now that slice is pure silicate the plant uptook and used to patch the wound. Thats from the AN Sensi Grow A+B pH Perfect, which means it has silicate in it and I'm betting a whole plethora of more goodies since its latest reform.

Also part of my update

I will be using Distilled store bought water with zero ppm for my future nutrient mixes.

 

[TREE KING]

Which Silicate do you use? I have Rhino Skin, I'm not sure if I can use it in veg, but with that said. I have wounded a plant taking clones and sliced into the stalk. Now that slice is pure silicate the plant uptook and used to patch the wound. Thats from the AN Sensi Grow A+B pH Perfect, which means it has silicate in it and I'm betting a whole plethora of more goodies since its latest reform.

Also part of my update

I will be using Distilled store bought water with zero ppm for my future nutrient mixes.

ph perfect doesnt have silicate in it. if it does its a secret cause they dont list it? AN used to sell a product called barricade which was pure silicate i still have a bottle of it that i use. that product turned into rhino skin which is what you have and you can use that for veg too. you got a problem with any insects? its great for that

 

[LyryC]

Where can I find an actual listing of what is in the bottle? I have tried looked this up to be baffled how sidetracked you get from what you are actually looking for and leave with nothing useful.

Using whats on the bottle
http://www.aapfco.org/metals.htm

I got no where.

 

[TREE KING]

Where can I find an actual listing of what is in the bottle? I have tried looked this up to be baffled how sidetracked you get from what you are actually looking for and leave with nothing useful.

Using whats on the bottle
http://www.aapfco.org/metals.htm

I got no where.

F-1 (fulvates)
H-2 (humates)
An amino acid complex
Wet Betty (non-ionic surfactant)
http://advancednutrientsonline.com/proddetail.php?prod=sensibloomppm

 

[LyryC]

Whats better big bud powder or liquid? Also have you tried Bud Blood? I have bud ignitor which is basically bud blood in liquid form. Thanks

 

[TURBD]

Bud blood works well. You only use it a couple times. Get the bud sites popping quick.

 

[TREE KING]

Whats better big bud powder or liquid? Also have you tried Bud Blood? I have bud ignitor which is basically bud blood in liquid form. Thanks

im not sure. havent tried bud blood but im about to start using bud ignitor to see how good it works

 

[LyryC]

Spoke with Andy, dude sounds exactly like a good friend. Anyways, I asked him about Bud Ignitor and he said it is Bud Blood, in liquid form and the new "version" of it. Same shit, probably making more money off it this way.

NEVER USE H2O2, fuck that shit. Just wasted all the pirahna in a few plants. H2O2 can be used for cleaning or sterilizing the medium, KILLING EVERYTHING GOOD IN THAT ROOTZONE. Good thing I have Hygrozyme to turn that shit into something for the plants. I'm not sold on AN's Sensizyme and will need a testimony to it being better than Hygrozyme, which I've been advised to use by many successful growers I know in person.

Rhino Skin is okay to use in Veg, but he didn't recommend it, saying it produces more resin as well as silicate in the cells. What fucking ever man, I got it, I'm using it, and till its gone. After that I'll get Dyna Gro Pro-tek, same thing, if not better, and cheaper. Veg and Flower.

Going to get back into foliar spraying today, been on a lazy hunch for a while, since I changed the room set up and its not as easy to spray. Going to use Thrive Alive B-1 Green and half strength of the F-1 which will help as best it can, I need to do something with it.

Also going to revive my mother plant in Miracle Grow Soil with a Flush today, checking the soil and run off ph and the run off ppm. MAJOR Leaf Curl and Burn, from a MAJOR P problem. Either PH is off creating a lockout or theres a major deficiency. My fault, was soooo baked one day I poured water I used to soak rockwool cubes into the pot, forgetting I used it for the soak, only remembering about 2 gallons into the feed from seeing the debri on the bottom, LESSON LEARNED. Damn lime...

Lots of work ahead of me but as soon as I finish my grow room design for an optimal flowering environment via good air flow and light control for 12/12 cycle I'll have a dedicated thread to what I'm doing. I'm steering slow and steady, no rush, just preparation and anticipation

Thanks all, more updates to come and soon I might sit around and do the whole picture thing. I have a few albums in which you can see the mother and a few rockwool plants.