KILL ALL BUGS IN 15 MINUTES.

[BagseedSamurai]

This seems like a good method, but look closer. A bug that is on a leaf eating languidly. CO2 poisoning levels come into their environment, but they are sitting literally on an O2 pillow. Tough bugs will be able to get enough air to survive.

Couple the CO2 poisoning with an insecticide or secondary tactic and I bet you'd be golden.

 

[ALothlórienTree]

Leave it to Bagseed to bust the title of the thread. werd, bagseed

 

[Fat J]

Hmm... makes me wonder, what about putting a hose on the tank and spraying straight CO2 across the surfaces of the affected plants? Blow all the bastards off then let the whole tank empty with it sealed up...? I'm in late bloom and really hopeful 2 find a viable option.

 

[someotherguy]

Hmm... makes me wonder, what about putting a hose on the tank and spraying straight CO2 across the surfaces of the affected plants? Blow all the bastards off then let the whole tank empty with it sealed up...? I'm in late bloom and really hopeful 2 find a viable option.

use the Hot Shot No Pest Strips man, they work like a charm.

you should read that thread i linked above for a complete discussion.

peace, and stay safe, SOG

 

[EdddieVHalen]

CO2 Displaces Oxygen. Bugs need Oxygen. The key is a completely seal room. If the bugs can get out while the CO2 is present (cracks so forth) they come back in once oxygen is present again. I like it more than dangerous poisons. I read other boards about an azamax or something like that.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

ive tried this a couple of times and it does work but it aint full proof some hardcore bug survive so its best used alongside another method

exactly, hardly %100... not even %90...

whats a hot shots?
and how do they work?
can i use them in flower? thanks
jd.

LAFF there GARBAGE...
expensive garbage.
alot of fools claim this gimic works but when i have them i watch the flys land on it.. move around... then fly away... like its just a stupid piece of yellow plastic they charge you $15 for ..

 

[foomar]

LAFF there GARBAGE...
expensive garbage.
alot of fools claim this gimic works but when i have them i watch the flys land on it.. move around... then fly away... like its just a stupid piece of yellow plastic they charge you $15 for ..

On the contrary , they are probably the best way of controlling pests in veg and early flower and one of very few chemos which will kill mites at all stages.
Far more effective than a spray , and used properly and intermittently is cheap and safe , residuals will be broken down during flower and dichlorvos is no worse than other chems in common non approved use on canna.

It was taken off the market in the UK due to the danger of a child eating it rather than its toxicity in normal use , still used on license from DEFRA in industrial and storage areas and to control mites in aviaries.

Most local growers are using them despite this ban , imported from the USA or from asian shops under the counter.

Thats a lot of fools ...

 

[Nationwide]

no pest strips release a gas, like co2.
it doesn't leave any type of residue.
Ive had mites twice and NPS worked like a charm.
dead mites everywhere, what a bootiful site to see

Thanks for the info on no pest strips. Had them little chewin fuckers twitching in 3 hours and after 24 hours it was a spidermite cemetary. Dead mites everywhere with my microscope. and man can you really see those eggs with the microscope...they look like tiny pearls perfectly round. I will be opening my bag of 3 no pest strips again in 4 days for them that have hatched.

Amen to no pest strips...I dont care if there is a cancer causing agent in there....I smoked 2 packs of marlboros for 20 years before I quit. Besides I think from what I have read about them they are not going to leave much residue for very long.

Good ridance to spraying for hours every 3 days...hahahaha

Nationwide

 

[joe fresh]

ive talked to professional horticulturists who use the co2 method, and they told me it does work IF you do it right. this is how they do it in their greenhouses....

20000ppm co2 for 3 hours, repeat 3 times a day, 3 times a week.....they do this on a regular, every week as a preventative measure, and says it works great and would not use any other method.

now let me ask this, at this rate how efficient do you think it actually is? how much is this going to cost you, or better yet the guy who fills your co2 tanks, whats he gonna say?

i recently switched from bottled co2 to propane burner because the guy who filled my tanks kept asking me questions, and i was just supplementing the room, not killing bugs....


so yes if done properly tjhis will keep your room bug free(bugs cant build resistance to high co2 levels), but it is extremely expensive and kind of suspicious if you gotta refill 10+ tanks a week....

 

[joe fresh]

This seems like a good method, but look closer. A bug that is on a leaf eating languidly. CO2 poisoning levels come into their environment, but they are sitting literally on an O2 pillow. Tough bugs will be able to get enough air to survive.

Couple the CO2 poisoning with an insecticide or secondary tactic and I bet you'd be golden.

MJ leaves close their respiratory pores in the leaves(stomas i think) when co2 levels reach over 2000ppm(i think, but it could be a bit higher), so by raising co2 to a proper level plants will no longer release o2 or breath co2, but i do get what you are saying but its not how it works.

the way that bugs would survive would be the fact that high co2 levels displaces o2 making it hard for the bugs to breath, but it doesnt eliminate the o2 so there is constanly o2 in the room for bugs to breath.....but like i said in my above post, IF DONE PROPERLY then you will kill all bugs, but it will cost a shit load and you might look funny to the guy at the store.;.;.

 

[smk2jnts]

joefresh- this is a perfect illustration of my earlier post... until we get into that 20-30,000ppm range we are not going to "kill" anything. i can accept that at that level, and with such a consistent regiment (every 3 days like clockwork), it might be toxic to bugs, but until you approach these drastically high numbers, you really are just throwing money away... anyone else attempting this without using a similar methodology will likely find it totally useless.

 

[Mr Celsius]

So much misinformation in this thread it makes me sick.

First off, if you have pests, there is no safe, easy route. You will have to spray, repeatedly, some form of OMRI listed pesticide. I suggest looking the Organic pest control link in my signature; that is if you're at all concerned about your health or the others that consume your product.

As for hotshot pest strips:

Dichlorvos or 2,2-dichlorovinyl dimethyl phosphate (DDVP) is a highly volatile organophosphate, widely used as a insecticide to control household pests, in public health, and protecting stored product from insects. It is effective against mushroom flies, aphids, spider mites, caterpillars, thrips, and whiteflies in greenhouse, outdoor fruit, and vegetable crops. It is also used in the milling and grain handling industries and to treat a variety of parasitic worm infections in dogs, livestock, and humans. It is fed to livestock to control bot fly larvae in the manure. It acts against insects as both a contact and a stomach poison. It is available as an aerosol and soluble concentrate. It is also used in pet collars and "no-pest strips" as pesticide-impregnated plastic. In this form it has recently been labeled for use against bed bugs

The United States Environmental Protection Agency first considered a ban on DDVP in 1981. Since then it has been close to being banned on several occasions, but continues to be available. Major concerns are over acute and chronic toxicity. There is no conclusive evidence of carcinogenicity to date, however a 2010 study found that each 10-fold increase in urinary concentration of organophosphate metabolites was associated with a 55% to 72% increase in the odds of ADHD in children.[1]

DDVP is absorbed through all routes of exposure. since it is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, its overdose symptoms are weakness, headache, tightness in chest, blurred vision, salivation, sweating, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal cramps.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichlorvos

Ya Co2 is expensive, but if you were really running a greenhouse size of weed, do you think the cost would even matter?

Welcome to monoculture boys, have fun.