Ron Paul 2012!!!

[bentom187]

we are the future rally live stream :
http://www.c-span.org/RNC/Events/Ron-Paul-Holds-Rally-in-Tampa-Fla/10737433373-1/

its on now.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/08/...ble-champions-of-constitutional-conservatism/

Ron Paul Pre-RNC Event to Assemble Champions of Constitutional Conservatism


Sunday’s ‘We Are The Future Rally’ at USF Sun Dome a bold sampling of movement that’s already inextricably linked to today’s, tomorrow’s GOP

LAKE JACKSON, Texas – The Ron Paul 2012 Presidential campaign released today details of its much-anticipated ‘We Are The Future Rally’ that will occur just ahead of the Republican National Convention in Tampa.

The event will take place on Sunday, August 26th at the University of South Florida Sun Dome from noon until 5:00 p.m. Congressman Paul will speak at or around 4:00 p.m. and will be introduced by his son, U.S. Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky.

“Ron Paul’s rally will enable supporters, the public, and media to further witness the ideas and people that are the future of the Republican Party,” said Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton.

“Dr. Paul’s delegates and supporters are coming to Tampa under the watchful eye of America and the world. No matter the convention outcome the Congressman and his fellow patriots will be heard, and as more people in politics are swayed there will be a net benefit to the nation,” added Mr. Benton.

A full event program and details follow. Time is Eastern.

‘We Are The Future Rally’

Session I: ‘Welcome to The Future’
Doug Wead – Master of Ceremonies
David Lane – Invocation
Will Hearn – Performs National Anthem and “God Bless America”

Session II: ‘Ideas of the Revolution’
Lew Rockwell – Economist
Walter E. Block, Ph.D. – Austrian School economist
Butler Shaffer– Ludwig von Mises Institute

Session III: ‘Calling the GOP Back to Its Roots: Constitutional Conservatism’
Jordan Page – Revelushun Records Singer/Songwriter
Barry Goldwater, Jr.
Jack Hunter – Ron Paul 2012 Official Campaign Blogger

Session IV: ‘Liberty Torch Bearers: State & Local’
Ashley Ryan – Age 21, Republican National Committeewoman (Maine)
Carl Bunce – Ron Paul 2012 Nevada Campaign Chairman
Donna Holt – Campaign for Liberty
Marianne Stebbins – Ron Paul 2012 Minnesota Campaign Chair
A.J. Spiker, (former) Ron Paul 2012 Iowa Campaign Vice-Chair

Session V: ‘The Republican Party’s Liberty Wing’
South Carolina State Sen. Tom Davis (R)
U.S. Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.)

Session VI: ‘Musical Performances’
John Popper of Blues Traveler with Ron Noyes
Guitar Legend Jimmy Vaughan

Session VII: ‘An Idea Whose Time Has Come: We Are The Future’
Aimee Allen – Ron Paul Anthem
Carol Paul – Honored with ‘First Lady of Liberty’ Award
U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) – Introduction
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) – Keynote

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

^^^^^^^ Better than bought 20 don't you think... oops never mind. (Would require thought instead of word vomit.)

Facts don't require pretzel logic. If media reports are accurate, Paul won 3 states by by virtue of delegates. Paul won zero states by voter percentage.

I think it's relevant to note that when it comes to facts, you have a strange definition of 'vomit'. You chuck baseless premise from opinion that doesn't take facts into account.

Resist the temptation to apply blinders to reality. Reality-based opinions are typically more relevant than opinion-based opinions.

 

[Hank Hemp]

Other than reefer I disagree with Paul on just about everything, it's not the 18th century anymore. We are all in this boat together like it or not.

 

[bentom187]

the media is a a complete lie.besides the stories of falling trees or car accidents and the like.
all the news besides those local types of stories are from the AP and reuters news agencies.
its heavily manipulated at the very least.

 

[dagnabit]

Other than reefer I disagree with Paul on just about everything, it's not the 18th century anymore. We are all in this boat together like it or not.

yeah all that freedom stuff is soooo 200 years ago...

 

[ijim]

I think the idea of the mods is to try and keep politics out of the forums. We have it in all of our other media. Give it a rest in our refuge.

 

[trichrider]

I think the idea of the mods is to try and keep politics out of the forums. We have it in all of our other media. Give it a rest in our refuge.

excuse, but politics are the reason we have to hide in anonymity in the first place.
were people informed of this war against having the freedom to grow and/or use cannabis responsibly was originally a con perpetrated to enrich certain people, the prohibition would never have been enacted.
the fact that prohibition continues (whether or not we hide from it) means we need to educate by talking about politics...
patriots will bring this message, not in the other media though.
cure your apathy, or just ignore what you find offensive.

 

[SacredBreh]

Two case in points of why the corprate media gets away with it!

Two case in points of why the corprate media gets away with it!

Other than reefer I disagree with Paul on just about everything, it's not the 18th century anymore. We are all in this boat together like it or not.

Yeah, your right. Who needs freedom when you have Nanny Fed to plan everything for you. We are so evolved now that we don't need any of those old worn out things like freedom, sovereignty, representatives that follow order of law, due process, privacy, ability to defend ourselves from tyranny.... useless old ideas such as those. How silly those are when we have Social Security, Medicare, and the Government who know what is best for us instead. Right? All the people on the Titanic were in the same boat too.......

I think the idea of the mods is to try and keep politics out of the forums. We have it in all of our other media. Give it a rest in our refuge.

Ah, did you not read the title to the thread before clicking on it???? I believe that is sort of the idea so you can sort of choose topics that might interest you... Just sayin'.

Peace

 

[Hempe]

i can tell sacredbreh is a ron paul supporter, That knows what he is talking about and if i had more posts id give u positive rep, even though i dont like it when people say breh/bro.

I mean this is a ron paul forum dont come here to talk shit about ron paul. come here to learn about who rightfully should be our president and why he should be. This is for people who hate being lied to not people who enjoy telling lies. I dislike the amount of ignorance in this forum but i will see past that to bring you all the good news that is ron paul. Please vote for him and do research on why he is the best candidate. if you dont like ron paul you just dont understand what his message means and how our liberties are being taken away from us and he is the man that will expose the lies and restore the truth. If you still think ron paul is a bad choice for our presidency i reccomend you dont post here

 

[Hank Hemp]

Yeah I guess y'll are right. I miss the old days when legless vets were "given" a roller cart and a couple of bricks to get around on. Kids beg in the streets and women were force into being whores. Haa the "good old days". Hempe don't confuse truth with wishful thinking, ok.

 

[medmaker420]

that rally was amazing and sure did trump that "p.a.u.l. ( gary johnson take over attempt ) fest" . You can see who the PAUL supporters really support and it sure as hell isn't gary no matter how much gary and his trolls state otherwise.

I was shocked to see aimee allen mess up BUT it looks like they started the song before she even got out there which made her immediately offtime BUT she came back like a champ.

SO many great musical acts, ron spoke great and he had a long liberty loving life that NO ONE in our lifetime could ever compare or compete with even in a FREE MARKET (-;

the rEVOLution will continue

 

[bentom187]

yesterdays RP speech,if anyone missed it.


Doug Wead tribute to Ron Paul at "We Are the Future" rally 8/26/12
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Ron Paul Full Speech With Rand's intro - We Are the Future Rally
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[bentom187]

Yeah I guess y'll are right. I miss the old days when legless vets were "given" a roller cart and a couple of bricks to get around on. Kids beg in the streets and women were force into being whores. Haa the "good old days". Hempe don't confuse truth wish wishful thinking, ok.

if we had RP's foreign policy the only injured vets would be from world war two,because that was the last war that was declaired by congress.the troops donate the most to RP out of all the others combined,for this reason.

Veterans for Ron Paul
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as far as people being poor wich depends on alot,our currencey the US dollar,wich in reality is a IOU from the bank,doesnt cut it for having any wealth.the government is the cause for our national debt,and its collection agancies treasurey dept. and the IRS only except payment in more dollars.the catch is your working for these dollars and using real resources! and the national debt increases just for printing them! so with wage fixing and taxes,its going to take many generations of american slaves to pay it back,in actuality it never can be. also the big debt ceiling argument is just about the intrest and will our creditors give us more debt. never mind paying down the principal.
so as long as we keep this central bank and its fake currencey we are only all equal slaves or prisoners.
here is the crentral banks chairman ben bernankie admitting they are the problem.
"Ben Bernanke Gets Schooled About Andrew Jackson, Currencies and Federal Debt"
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with reguards to forced prostitution we still have sex slavery today,so the government cant stop that either in fact in some countries our secret service participates.
if somone were to try to force somone to do somthing they do not want to do,there is the 2nd amendment (barley/not anymore unless things change),or call the police or somone else for help, because we will still have phones and service,mainly because theirs a demand for that so its profitable so that isnt going anywhere.
theres not really a solution to eliminate risk completley,one can certainly be a lot safer if it wasnt black market in most states.they could be in a establishment,with security and volentary testing.or not be prostitutes its their body and their choice.


heres a show some may find intresting relating to government fails.
John Stossel: " NO THEY CAN'T!"
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[DiscoBiscuit]

the media is a a complete lie.

"The media" would include the scores of attachments you've posted.

besides the stories of falling trees or car accidents and the like.
all the news besides those local types of stories are from the AP and reuters news agencies.
its heavily manipulated at the very least.

I get the impression the battle for delegates should parallel the vote count, not some tactical rules maneuver that potentially overrides voter intent. Doesn't look like the rules change eliminates that opportunity in the future, it just raises the bar to a minimum of 8 states vs 5.

If minority factions don't accept the rules, merely playing the game (not to mention unconventionally) lends the impression of authoritarianism. When the rules are based on majorities, minority arguments are a tough sell in any party, business and or community.

Ron has the power of insistence. Unfortunately, the job calls for the power of persuasion. Demanding respect and commanding it are two different things.

 

[SacredBreh]

Can you say Ba,a,a,h,h,h,h...... Ba,a,a,a,hh,h,h,h.....B,a,a,a, a,h,hhh

Can you say Ba,a,a,h,h,h,h...... Ba,a,a,a,hh,h,h,h.....B,a,a,a, a,h,hhh

i can tell sacredbreh is a ron paul supporter, That knows what he is talking about and if i had more posts id give u positive rep, even though i dont like it when people say breh/bro.

Don't sweat is Hempe.... the breh in the last part of my handle is really Herb spelled backwards. We use to call Herb...Bree which was my handle here close to the start up of IC and when OverGrow.com was not hardly known. Thanks for the kind words, prefer those anyway, not much of a Karma whore anyway.

"A vote for Obama will bring war with Syria, Iran, and eventually Russia and China. The economy will continue to suffer in order to bolster the interests of off-shore corporate-financier interests, while the collective prospects of Americans continue to whither and blow away. A vote for Romney, however, will also bring war with Syria, Iran, and eventually Russia and China. The economy will also continue to suffer in order to bolster the interests of off-shore corporate-financier interests, while the collective prospects of Americans continue to whither and blow away."

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The above is why I am a Ron Paul supporter. Anyone who thinks they really have a choice between the blue and red are delusional.
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Both the red and the blue are leading us down the same road but are herding the Sheeple from different sides of the street; the Sheeple bounce back and forth but move steadily ahead down the treacherous road to becoming a third world country with China as the NWO capital.

In a more focused aspect, Obama has steadily continued the War on Drugs including the SacredHerb, while Romney says out right he will escalate it by "taking Medical Marijuana apart piece by piece." For there to be a discussion on a site such as IC, who we the people, who have the most to lose with one tiny mistake related to the Craft, is case in point evidence of severe delusional thinking.

Peace

 

[SacredBreh]

Damn, that last point was excellent bentom!

NO THEY CAN'T!

^^^^ most will never know what that means because they don't even check out the material before they start beating on Dr. Paul.

Peace

 

[bentom187]

"The media" would include the scores of attachments you've posted.

I get the impression the battle for delegates should parallel the vote count, not some tactical rules maneuver that potentially overrides voter intent. Doesn't look like the rules change eliminates that opportunity in the future, it just raises the bar to a minimum of 8 states vs 5.

If minority factions don't accept the rules, merely playing the game (not to mention unconventionally) lends the impression of authoritarianism. When the rules are based on majorities, minority arguments are a tough sell in any party, business and or community.

Ron has the power of insistence. Unfortunately, the job calls for the power of persuasion. Demanding respect and commanding it are two different things.

yes i use links to "some" mainstream sources,but a majority comes from the internet and my own searches.

the rules are set by the party.we are the majority anyway.we followed their rules and they are breakling them.if it where true they were the majority there would be no need for the panicing and power grabs.
so it seems the rules are the determiner of the outcome ultimatley.
however at the convention there was a rules change that the primary popular vote would determine who the states deligation is composed of next election wich is direct democracy wich is illeagle

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiv
Article IV
Section 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

so you see the founders knew mobb rule doesnt equal freedom it is the opposite.and certainly threatens domestic tranquility. the RNC doesnt care they are criminals.

 

[bentom187]

http://www.examiner.com/article/republicans-work-to-remove-gary-johnson-from-iowa-ballot

Jay Kramer, a Mitt Romney campaign supporter from Washington, D.C., filed a challenge on Friday to keep Libertarian candidate for President, Gov. Gary Johnson, from appearing on the Iowa ballot in November. The Romney campaign hired the Des Moines-based Nyemaster Goode PC for the challenge, which will be heard by Iowa Secretary of State Matt Schultz on Monday at 3 p.m.

"This is clearly a setup," said the Johnson campaign's attorney, Alicia Dearn. "The Libertarian Party had 2,000 petition signatures and should have been on the ballot without challenge, as they have always done in the past. But Republican Iowa Secretary of State Schultz — in violation of longstanding Iowa law — rejected the petition and required the Johnson campaign to caucus at the state fair. There, the Romney campaign surveilled the Johnson campaign's activities for the sole purpose of bringing this eleventh-hour challenge," Dearn said.

The Romney campaign's challenge was filed Friday afternoon and set for a hearing on Monday afternoon. The 106-page challenge includes photographs of Johnson supporters asking fair-goers to support having Gov. Johnson and the Libertarian Party offered as a choice on the ballot. The Republicans' challenge claims that the state fair signatures should be thrown out because the signers are not Libertarians.

"The challenge is legally frivolous," asserts Dearn. "You don't have to be a registered Libertarian to want a third choice on the ballot. Iowans deserve to choose for themselves who to vote for, which is why Gov. Johnson should be on the ballot."

Unlike many other states, Iowa has a perfect history of allowing third-party candidates onto the ballot.

"Iowa is one of the very few states that has never kept a general election presidential candidate off its ballot," said ballot-access historian Richard Winger. "It is a policy that saves money and work for elections officials, because Iowa doesn't need to tally write-in votes for presidential candidates when all such significant candidates are on the ballot."

According to Dearn, the Romney campaign is using similar tactics to keep Gov. Johnson off the ballot in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

yes i use links to "some" mainstream sources,but a majority comes from the internet and my own searches.

Have you read about Ron's divorce from the Libertarian Party, less than 2 years after his divorce from the GOP?

the rules are set by the party.we are the majority anyway.we followed their rules and they are breakling them.

According to AP, the vote to raise the bar to 8 states was something like 77 to 14.

if it where true they were the majority there would be no need for the panicing and power grabs.

Power grabs are typically the theater of minority factions, not the folks holding power. Not to mention the rules change was put up to a vote. I'm not personally happy your side lost the vote but i can understand the reasoning behind the rules change.

Romney and Santorum split 70% of Iowa caucus voters. The other candidates split the difference. Ron Paul maneuvered 100% of the delegates. What this means is approximately 700,000 Iowa caucus votes were (arguably) undermined, definitely diminished.

That kind of outcome might reduce turnout for future elections because it changes the intent of the vote.

so it seems the rules are the determiner of the outcome ultimatley.
however at the convention there was a rules change that the primary popular vote would determine who the states deligation is composed of next election wich is direct democracy wich is illeagle

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiv
Article IV
Section 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

so you see the founders knew mobb rule doesnt equal freedom it is the opposite.and certainly threatens domestic tranquility. the RNC doesnt care they are criminals.

Mob rule is an interesting euphemism for the majority. The link referenced is an argument, not necessarily the winning outcome. I don't know what pending arguments have yet to be determined but a judge struck down Paul's attempts to maneuver Nebraska delegates.

 

[bentom187]

Have you read about Ron's divorce from the Libertarian Party, less than 2 years after his divorce from the GOP?

According to AP, the vote to raise the bar to 8 states was something like 77 to 14.

i guess it depends on who's making the rules and doing the counting.his principals havnt changed.

Power grabs are typically the theater of minority factions, not the folks holding power. Not to mention the rules change was put up to a vote. I'm not personally happy your side lost the vote but i can understand the reasoning behind the rules change.

deligates were elected because they had the support in their state,and understood the process,and followed through and showed up.the rules are the determining factor.we (they) followed them.

Romney and Santorum split 70% of Iowa caucus voters. The other candidates split the difference. Ron Paul maneuvered 100% of the delegates. What this means is approximately 700,000 Iowa caucus votes were (arguably) undermined, definitely diminished.

no 700k didnt understand the process,we are not a democracy,we are reprisentitive republic who's election is determined by law not popular vote.

That kind of outcome might reduce turnout for future elections because it changes the intent of the vote.

Mob rule is an interesting euphemism for the majority. The link referenced is an argument, not necessarily the winning outcome. I don't know what pending arguments have yet to be determined but a judge struck down Paul's attempts to maneuver Nebraska delegates.

Ron Paul Delegate speaks out About GOP Corruption on CNN
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we followed FEC rules and the constitution,we were not the ones who changed them so you see theres no reason for cheating, we just followed the rules, we didnt convinced people this was a direct democracy and not a reprisentitive republic.we had full state deligations dismissed today,like the entire maine deligation for no other reason than romney supporters dont have a clue or support.thats mobb rule or orgianized crime.
theres plenty of states that he won plurality and majority,they just were not seated or replaced with alternates or leagaley binding contracts wich secured the romney vote, wich people took the chance of a second vote happening rather than being dissmissed in the first round, as is in the case of mass deligates and others.there were numerous rule changes at the last second for romney's advantage.