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. Room is looking great, just have to dial in those nutes a bit more.
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Franky4fingers
LVPK
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Very nice work sir, can't wait to see and taste the end result
LVPK
Very nice work sir, can't wait to see and taste the end result
250wscrogger
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I like your style...I've always wanted to try 128 on a 4x8 flipped at 8-10'' this method is incredibly efficient because of the lower veg time/wattage requirements.
If I ran this style I'd just run a t5 clone factory for a veg and 3x 4x8 tables 3 weeks apart for a harvest every 3 weeks. Some people even harvest one table every 2 weeks (8 lights) or every week (16 lights).
I remember stoney 419's SOG setup with 16x600w on movers and 128 per table on a weekly.......how can you be any more productive than bud drying at all times?
If I ran this style I'd just run a t5 clone factory for a veg and 3x 4x8 tables 3 weeks apart for a harvest every 3 weeks. Some people even harvest one table every 2 weeks (8 lights) or every week (16 lights).
I remember stoney 419's SOG setup with 16x600w on movers and 128 per table on a weekly.......how can you be any more productive than bud drying at all times?
farmhouse cat
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Thanks Jointedone, sqydro, and franky.
Mister D, at some point in the future i will probably do another vert in the 2nd room. But for now i just want to try this SOG. Iv'e been lying awake at night dreamin about budsicles.
I have all the equiptment to get it going. Just waiting for the heat to pass.
250, thanks buddy. Your dead on with the t5's, that exactly what i do and am gonna do for vegging this room. Although i think im just going to run the room all at once 1 month behind the vert room. That way i can still have some sort of a life with all the trimming ...
Mister D, at some point in the future i will probably do another vert in the 2nd room. But for now i just want to try this SOG. Iv'e been lying awake at night dreamin about budsicles.
I have all the equiptment to get it going. Just waiting for the heat to pass.
250, thanks buddy. Your dead on with the t5's, that exactly what i do and am gonna do for vegging this room. Although i think im just going to run the room all at once 1 month behind the vert room. That way i can still have some sort of a life with all the trimming ...
fhc, I can't wait to see what you do with a frickin' SOG. Your sideways-canopies are the cat's ass. Can't wait to see what you do reggalar styl-ee. 
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DHF
I usedta veg my big rooted cuts for Krusty buckets under a 400 watt MH at each location and it worked well.....with small plant numbers to pick the best to go in the bloom rooms..... and then...
The 432 watt T-5`s came out and had 8 bulbs with similar footprint for increased numbers once I started runnin ebb and flow bucket rooms with increased plant numbers... but.....
Yas could drop em down almost on top of the cuts to make em stack nodes and limbs without any stretch whatsoever with major air exchange......and......
No heat stress ftw.....Many ways ta skin a mule......
Peace.....DHF....
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The 432 watt T-5`s came out and had 8 bulbs with similar footprint for increased numbers once I started runnin ebb and flow bucket rooms with increased plant numbers... but.....
Yas could drop em down almost on top of the cuts to make em stack nodes and limbs without any stretch whatsoever with major air exchange......and......
No heat stress ftw.....Many ways ta skin a mule......
Peace.....DHF....
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farmhouse cat
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DHF, does my SOG plan sound viable to you? Im always interested in your opinion.
farmhouse cat
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fhc, I can't wait to see what you do with a frickin' SOG. Your sideways-canopies are the cat's ass. Can't wait to see what you do reggalar styl-ee.
I appreciate that my friend, i hope i wont disappoint.
after reading this i did a little google search "dark room louver". I HAD NO IDEA THESE THINGS EVEN EXISTED!! thanks man. btw your set up looks absolutely great
farmhouse cat
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Just remember these dark room louvers restrict airflow so plan accordingly. Either use an intake fan on the inside, or double up for passive. I love um!
farmhouse cat
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You got it Josey wales.... LVPK... like josey says... "are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle dixie?"
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DHF
My crazy ass mad scientist Gro bro`s in SoCal that`ve been sellin cuts to the clubs since early `95 roll with SOG`s from Hell cuz they take the picks of the litter cuts and sell the rest to the dispensaries....but...
For the record....Take it from somebody that`s rooted 10`s of 1000`s of cuts over the yrs FHC....
No 2 cuts root at the same rate guaranteed , so my solution was always to take waaaaaay more cuts than I needed to find the best 64 in my particular situation for each flip room to find the best of the best that did in fact root similarly and produce similar foliage/nodes/limbs during pre-veg......so....that said....
SOG`s a viable easy babyshit simple setup with flood and drain tables , but to grow budsicles my grobro`s run 3" rockwool cubes and 512 rooted cuts per 4 x 8 table with 2-1KW`s over em in parabolic un-cooled hoods and dialed environment.....and.....
They pull 4 lbs per table EVERY run and grow 1/4 oz budsicles like clockwork but it takes their clone factory to pump out the cuts......
128 plants seem like a lot on a 4 x 8 table @ 4 per sq ft FHC , but you`ll still haveta veg em a lil bit to fill in the canopy best yas can by end of stretch ......bet on it....
And I`m not sayin that 4 weeks time isn`t enough to do so but it`s strictly strain dependent and the only wayta find out is ta do it and work from there on the next run.....so again....
Scratch that itch and let us all see whatchas can do with a horizontal flat grow..... Just take waaaaay more cuts than you`re thinkin bout and it`ll make yas happy in the long run....ok ?........
Only the strong survive and the rest always went to my compost pile at the farm....and not sure bout the 600`s on a mover Bro...
From what I`ve seen over the yrs light movers do in fact give "angular" penetration into the canopy if it`s too thick for the lights to get down to , but it also seems to make the plants stretchier with longer internode spacing resulting in airier nugs by end of cycle.......
Could be strain dependent but 1 could only tell with a variety that`s been dialed in and know what it`s capable of in other surroundings....
600`s can get closer to the canopy than 1KW`s but it also reduces their effective footprint , and I`m sure that`s why yas thought of the mover.....anyways.....many ways ta skin a mule....cat....pig.....deer....lol.....
Aight....nuff outta my old ass this mornin.....I smell breakfast cookin and the bongs have taken max effect for major munchies....
Holler if I can help Bro..........
Peace....Freds.....
Edit:.....Was stoned on coffee and nugs this morning and meant to say that my Bro`s pull 4 lbs per light and 8 lbs per table instead of what apparently looked like 2 lbs per light and 4 lbs per table....and......
They`ve been doin it for many yrs......well....
For the record....Take it from somebody that`s rooted 10`s of 1000`s of cuts over the yrs FHC....
No 2 cuts root at the same rate guaranteed , so my solution was always to take waaaaaay more cuts than I needed to find the best 64 in my particular situation for each flip room to find the best of the best that did in fact root similarly and produce similar foliage/nodes/limbs during pre-veg......so....that said....
SOG`s a viable easy babyshit simple setup with flood and drain tables , but to grow budsicles my grobro`s run 3" rockwool cubes and 512 rooted cuts per 4 x 8 table with 2-1KW`s over em in parabolic un-cooled hoods and dialed environment.....and.....
They pull 4 lbs per table EVERY run and grow 1/4 oz budsicles like clockwork but it takes their clone factory to pump out the cuts......
128 plants seem like a lot on a 4 x 8 table @ 4 per sq ft FHC , but you`ll still haveta veg em a lil bit to fill in the canopy best yas can by end of stretch ......bet on it....
And I`m not sayin that 4 weeks time isn`t enough to do so but it`s strictly strain dependent and the only wayta find out is ta do it and work from there on the next run.....so again....
Scratch that itch and let us all see whatchas can do with a horizontal flat grow..... Just take waaaaay more cuts than you`re thinkin bout and it`ll make yas happy in the long run....ok ?........
Only the strong survive and the rest always went to my compost pile at the farm....and not sure bout the 600`s on a mover Bro...
From what I`ve seen over the yrs light movers do in fact give "angular" penetration into the canopy if it`s too thick for the lights to get down to , but it also seems to make the plants stretchier with longer internode spacing resulting in airier nugs by end of cycle.......
Could be strain dependent but 1 could only tell with a variety that`s been dialed in and know what it`s capable of in other surroundings....
600`s can get closer to the canopy than 1KW`s but it also reduces their effective footprint , and I`m sure that`s why yas thought of the mover.....anyways.....many ways ta skin a mule....cat....pig.....deer....lol.....
Aight....nuff outta my old ass this mornin.....I smell breakfast cookin and the bongs have taken max effect for major munchies....
Holler if I can help Bro.....
.....Peace....Freds.....
Edit:.....Was stoned on coffee and nugs this morning and meant to say that my Bro`s pull 4 lbs per light and 8 lbs per table instead of what apparently looked like 2 lbs per light and 4 lbs per table....and......
They`ve been doin it for many yrs......well....
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As goes the LVPK and cloning with healthy cuts she will root in 7 days. 3 weeks veg on top of this and she will be huge. In flower the LVPK does better with less intense light so 600's may be a great test for the table.
I like DHF's uncoold parabolic vert idea. But if you wanted to go with horizontal and hoods I am sure it will rock also.
I like DHF's uncoold parabolic vert idea. But if you wanted to go with horizontal and hoods I am sure it will rock also.
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DHF
I slipped and didn`t realize I forgot to mention they`re runnin "vertizontal" parabolics with the bulbs vertical instead of horizontal....As goes the LVPK and cloning with healthy cuts she will root in 7 days. 3 weeks veg on top of this and she will be huge. In flower the LVPK does better with less intense light so 600's may be a great test for the table.
I like DHF's uncoold parabolic vert idea. But if you wanted to go with horizontal and hoods I am sure it will rock also.
Peace...DHF....
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have you or have you seen anyone run the lvpk in a sea of green ? i havent but think with some pruning and a short veg she would do well.As goes the LVPK and cloning with healthy cuts she will root in 7 days. 3 weeks veg on top of this and she will be huge. In flower the LVPK does better with less intense light so 600's may be a great test for the table.
I like DHF's uncoold parabolic vert idea. But if you wanted to go with horizontal and hoods I am sure it will rock also.
Looking forward to seeing your SOG FHC!
One of my grow rooms at the old place was a weird shape, 3.75' x 6.0'. I used a 1k on a mover and did ok, but had a hard time getting the light even. The center of the room always got to much exposure.
Lookin back, a 600w w/smaller foot print probably would have worked better.
For a nice consistent high quality crop, I would probably throw more lights at it before I would go with the mover, but I'm definitely no pro grower.
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with, I'm sure you will kill it!
One of my grow rooms at the old place was a weird shape, 3.75' x 6.0'. I used a 1k on a mover and did ok, but had a hard time getting the light even. The center of the room always got to much exposure.
Lookin back, a 600w w/smaller foot print probably would have worked better.
For a nice consistent high quality crop, I would probably throw more lights at it before I would go with the mover, but I'm definitely no pro grower.
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with, I'm sure you will kill it!
farmhouse cat
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If there"s one thing i feel confident with, its cloning. Ive had a 98% success rate so far. You cant go wrong with an aero cloner as long as the environment is there. And even if you dont have ideal conditions they still manage to pop but just take a little longer.
These were takin 12 days ago. LVPK root shot. I only took about 60, but i could have taken 3 times that. These little clones will be the donors for the sog sometime early october..so its a ways out.
I have some magnum xxxl hoods laying around that i might use with the 600's and air cool them. With those monsters i might be able to get by without a mover. And i can drop it down super close to the tops.
Anyway...got me some coronas and tequilla shots and gettin ready to burn some animal carcass.
Oh bobbles....that tall one is the USD and the one to the right is chem d.
These were takin 12 days ago. LVPK root shot. I only took about 60, but i could have taken 3 times that. These little clones will be the donors for the sog sometime early october..so its a ways out.
I have some magnum xxxl hoods laying around that i might use with the 600's and air cool them. With those monsters i might be able to get by without a mover. And i can drop it down super close to the tops.
Anyway...got me some coronas and tequilla shots and gettin ready to burn some animal carcass.
Oh bobbles....that tall one is the USD and the one to the right is chem d.
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