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redbudduckfoot

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called the DEA? ive always thought you were a cool dude on IC, but man, what kind of friends do you have? card carrying christians? DEA calling motherfuckers?

i had an open mind about this situation, but after reading the above conversation, my mind is made up. this dude deserves to lose his shit, calling the DEA. he knows what YOU, GingerAle do, i assume, since you are becoming privy to all this info. i'm not sure about you, but i don't associate with anyone who has EVER had any voluntary contact with FEDS.

Scary SHIT.

RBDF
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Here is a post made on another forum, by an older fellow in Olympia WA who I happen to know is a great guy and doesn't deserve this B.S. in his life. I am ashamed for all of us:

Simply write on the lease, "No indoor horticultural activity including marijuana."
 

gingerale

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called the DEA? ive always thought you were a cool dude on IC, but man, what kind of friends do you have? card carrying christians? DEA calling motherfuckers?

You need to go smoke a blunt and chill out bro. I've never met the guy in person, but I have known him through the Internet for many years and he is a stand up guy, the kind you can do business with sight unseen and never have the slightest doubt about the transaction. You can't blame the man for trying to protect his property. This is a man who grew up back in the day when you could trust what people told you and shake hands and believe a man's word. Can you really blame him for being surprised and shocked to discover that there are people out there who would actually have the nerve to do what this disgusting human being has done? I know I'm shocked. Maybe this is par for the course in Washington but again, this shit would never fly in Bama, so this is a total shock to me.

Some of you people really need to pull your heads out of your asses and start understanding things from society's perspective, instead of imagining that everyone out there knows what you know about cops and authorities. The older generation in particular is pretty clueless about all this. He just wanted to rent out his fucking shop for someone to work on cars in, not for some piece of shit with an entitlement complex to take it over and tear it up while hiding behind the color of law and laughing about it. How could he have possibly foreseen this would happen? Now he's learned a hard lesson. I'm just trying to share it with everyone.
 

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Some of you people really need to pull your heads out of your asses and start understanding things from society's perspective, instead of imagining that everyone out there knows what you know about cops and authorities.

Besides which, the DEA is the outfit that would happily be taking over the landlord's property if given half a chance. Red, exactly why is it that you think it is reasonable to expect the landlord to play by this asshole's rules of engagement rather than his own?
 

Zen Master

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I wouldn't rat on him but this scumbag deserves root aphids, broad mites and the borg all together.

calling the cops on him is probably something most people on IC wouldn't do, even if they really wanted to.

Most people wouldn't be complete douchebags like this kid is if they were in the growers situation either though...

if I had a landlord come up to me and say "oh thats pot in there? well I'm not such a fan, I'd like you to get it out"

I'd pull an all nighter and have my shit out by morning, then again, I'm respectful of other people and their possessions. (plus I run my shit tight so that it wouldn't be an issue in the first place)

If you as a landlord rent to someone and upon a '24 hr inspection' that was given the appropriate amount of advanced warning, if you entered your building and saw damage being done to your structure (regardless of how it was being damaged i.e. a grow exhausting air that will certainly create mold in the structure) I would remove the damaging aspect(s) immediately and not feel a single bit of regret. If he wants to try and sue the landlord to recover his lost value due to his plants sitting out on the driveway go the fuck ahead.

See what judge will side with recouping costs of cannabis plants (questionably legal plants even as he clearly has multiple locations, [probably more you dont know of as well]) versus the landlord who could potentially have tens of thousands of dollars worth of damage.

you air this guys dirty laundry in court there is no fucking way he'd stand a chance. He would vaporize. "oh okay man fine have your shitty building, I'm outta here"


growing pot may be decriminalized, but destroying someones property is not.
 
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redbudduckfoot

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because he entered the fucking property illegally. bottom line. dude wasnt breaking the law, all he heard was some "humming." do you guys really grow? a 10-14 inch exhaust fan is fucking LOUD, and can be heard outside an external wall. by no means is that grounds for a surprise inspection.

the DEA told the landlord to bugger off, lol. this guy is just freaked out because he, deep inside thinks that weed is evil/illegal. so you have never met this guy, and only interacted with him online? then you have no idea if he is a "stand up guy.'' STAND UP GUYS DONT CALL THE DEA, end of story.

ive done plenty of water and structural damage to rentals, but always fix it proper before i vacate. like isaid before, i make it a point to get my deposit back, so i have a positive reference for the next spot. i am giving the grower the benefit of doubt that he will fix any damage before he leaves, and if not, forfeit his deposit/be subject to damages in small claims court. its the name of the game and the LL should have known the rules before before playing.

i cant believe all you "growers," after only hearing one side of the story, and all the evidence that the landlord is infringing on the tenants rights, are saying poor landlord, etc.

THIS "STAND UP GUY" CALLED THE DEA ON ONE OF US. SHAME ON HIM, AND SHAME ON YOU FOR SIDING WITH HIM.

fucking posers.

RBDF
 
The person that owned the house never personally confronted the man growing and advising he has a problem with growing on the property. Never tried to work something out with the grower peacefully to cease operations or leave. Getting the cops involved is what aggrivated the situation period. Not justifying either mans actions but it sounds like the grower was insulted because the owner of the house was so quick to get the LEO involved. Now that the law is in the growers favor. It gets down to the fact that one man was ready to take away another mans freedom but didn't have the nerve to say he had a problem to the grower man's face first...This little missing detail of why the home owner didn't personally ask the grower to stop growing at the property or he would be forced to call the police. The grower may have left at that point had the homeowner been sincere, up front and just approached him and said "ya know I get what you are doing, I'm not against it, but uhh just can't do it here "insert viable reason", kindly vacate the premises if you can't cease the grow operation." simple. If that fails then calling LEO could be an option if the grower reacts violent;y and you can't or don't want to handle it yourself with your own weapon.


--- the point is that the owner was quick to get LEO involved, complicating the situation. Are there details we are missing from the story?

Is there something I missed?

any disagree?
 

hammalamma

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Good to know the type of company you keep! Dude prolly looked like such an idiot telling the fucking DEA about such a small legal op. :laughing:

Everyone on the landlords side are assuming that there was damage done. If the landlord knows nothing about growing how does he know that the guy is exhausting humid air into the shop? How does he know that he is not running a dehumidifier? No damage has happened,and how do you know he wouldn't fix it IF it did happen.
Gingerale, I think you are the one who need to pull that big ole head of yours out of your ass. Do you really think that people in your state are that better then others? What a joke!
 

FlowerFarmer

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I'd be curious to know how the trailer rig was setup.

There seems to be lots of assumptions being thrown around into the damage being done. Was there really damage being done or was the landlord simply assuming humid air was not being dealt with in one way or another?

I've vented small grows into attics and other areas to escape out cracked windows or attic soffets rather then venting directly outside... and so long as I kept humidity low with dehumidifier 24/7 it has never been an issue in my parts.
 

headband 707

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keep in mind we are only getting one side of the story....

it's like basing your judgment on fox or msnbc ;)

three sides to this story.


Yeah I couldn't agree more with this statement ...lol... but lets not forget that 8 times out of 10 it's really a BAD idea to grow in a house unless you have enough cash to really vent out of the place.. Unless you really care about this persons place and most ppl don't and they fuck their places up. I won't go into anyone place and fuck it up it's bad kharma all around .. headband 707
 

headband 707

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I'd be curious to know how the trailer rig was setup.

There seems to be lots of assumptions being thrown around into the damage being done. Was there really damage being done or was the landlord simply assuming humid air was not being dealt with in one way or another?

I've vented small grows into attics and other areas to escape out cracked windows or attic soffets rather then venting directly outside... and so long as I kept humidity low with dehumidifier 24/7 it has never been an issue in my parts.


I've seen these train cars been set up very sweet lol they stack them..headband 707
 

floralheart

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The landlord made the right move. Would you risk forfeiting YOUR parents property and your inheritance?

Some of you... don't answer that.


Although there wasn't an immediate risk of it being an issue because of current #'s, those #'s can change and maybe the landlord is complicit because he didn't fight it, now he's aware the grow op is on his property.

Personally, if given trouble... I would have ripped his shit, trashed his equipment and called the police and reported a break in. Hope you have renters insurance.
 

floralheart

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Seamaiden- Im not in california... and this kid is really a nightmare. Prob like your kid... nice enough kid, harmless to mammals, but his head is held on with a piece of wet toilet paper. An "artist" with an art degree and no talent is what I am dealing with...

LMAO~!
 

redbudduckfoot

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The landlord made the right move. Would you risk forfeiting YOUR parents property and your inheritance?

Some of you... don't answer that.

Although there wasn't an immediate risk of it being an issue because of current #'s, those #'s can change and maybe the landlord is complicit because he didn't fight it, now he's aware the grow op is on his property.

Personally, if given trouble... I would have ripped his shit, trashed his equipment and called the police and reported a break in. Hope you have renters insurance.

so you're advocating calling the DEA?

are you serious?

RBDF
 

gingerale

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Everyone on the landlords side are assuming that there was damage done. If the landlord knows nothing about growing how does he know that the guy is exhausting humid air into the shop? How does he know that he is not running a dehumidifier?

I'm guessing because.....he looked? Please use your brain before commenting...

No damage has happened,and how do you know he wouldn't fix it IF it did happen.

Right, like this grower has given the landlord every reason to think he is a stand up guy who would "fix" any damage he caused.

"Fix" a molded out structure? Are you stupid, or just naive?

Gingerale, I think you are the one who need to pull that big ole head of yours out of your ass. Do you really think that people in your state are that better then others? What a joke!

The only joke is you for defending a scumbag. In my state this asshole would have the shit beaten out of him. In my state criminals live in fear of citizens, not the other way around. If Washington State is such a broken and corrupt place that the law is in tilted in favor of criminals at the cost of honest citizens, as it would appear, then damn right my state is better than yours.
 
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HempKat

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because he entered the fucking property illegally. bottom line. dude wasnt breaking the law, all he heard was some "humming." do you guys really grow? a 10-14 inch exhaust fan is fucking LOUD, and can be heard outside an external wall. by no means is that grounds for a surprise inspection.

the DEA told the landlord to bugger off, lol. this guy is just freaked out because he, deep inside thinks that weed is evil/illegal. so you have never met this guy, and only interacted with him online? then you have no idea if he is a "stand up guy.'' STAND UP GUYS DONT CALL THE DEA, end of story.

ive done plenty of water and structural damage to rentals, but always fix it proper before i vacate. like isaid before, i make it a point to get my deposit back, so i have a positive reference for the next spot. i am giving the grower the benefit of doubt that he will fix any damage before he leaves, and if not, forfeit his deposit/be subject to damages in small claims court. its the name of the game and the LL should have known the rules before before playing.

i cant believe all you "growers," after only hearing one side of the story, and all the evidence that the landlord is infringing on the tenants rights, are saying poor landlord, etc.

THIS "STAND UP GUY" CALLED THE DEA ON ONE OF US. SHAME ON HIM, AND SHAME ON YOU FOR SIDING WITH HIM.

fucking posers.

RBDF

I'm sorry but a grower who acts like this dickhead did is not one of us. We don't advocate fucking over your landlord here. Just because this fool grows weed does not make him one of us. I do think the landlord overreacted but he didn't start going the DEA route until this guy start making noises about not leaving after being told to. Frankly I say he's lucky that's all the landlord did. There are some out there that would just make the tenant "disappear" after pulling the kind of shit this guy is pulling.
 

hammalamma

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I'm guessing because.....he looked? Please use your brain before commenting...



Right, like this grower has given the landlord every reason to think he is a stand up guy who would "fix" any damage he caused.

"Fix" a molded out structure? Are you stupid, or just naive?



The only joke is you for defending a scumbag. In my state this asshole would have the shit beaten out of him. In my state criminals live in fear of citizens, not the other way around. If Washington State is such a broken and corrupt place that the law is in tilted in favor of criminals at the cost of honest citizens, as it would appear, then damn right my state is better than yours.

:blowbubbles:

Are you really that ignorant? Or are you just an dipshit internet tough guy? No mold happened. If he doesn't grow how the fuck would he know what a dehumiddy is? What if it wasn't out in the open? There was no molded out structure to fix dumbass. In my state a bitch like you would get fucked in her pretty little ass.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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Landlord took the risk of this hassle in his life when he decided to start renting out his property.


The dude is being a dick for not leaving without a fight, but from the landlord's perspective.. he should get used to it or change his mind about renting. Its a part of the biz...the legal eviction process is many times necessary.

Still not a good look for us growers though..

I bet the grower nicely asked if he could finish his flower cycle and then leave, so he wouldn't lose all that money, and then the landlord being ignorant about all this got an attitude. Then got online an posted this like an angry child.

I have never met a grower that would just be a straight up dick to the landlord because the landlord could call the federal government for assistance at any point, and growers know it. At the very least you get put on a watch list.

:blowbubbles:
In my state a bitch like you would get fucked in her pretty little ass.

Oh and in my state they would call all you internet tough guys a poo head and stop inviting you to birthday parties and never pick you to play on there team at recces.... and give you wedgies and Indian sunburns. lol
 
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