bloombastic??

[bushdoctor215]

i agree with SmokeyTheGrower. ive been using the AN 2 part for years with great results and i just tested out dyna gro and it doesnt come anywhere close. very slow veg growth for the first 3 weeks of flower with not nearly enough stretch. i literally have plants that are a third bigger minimum when i use the 2 part

Bigger is one thing, heavier is another. Stay with what you know though...

 

[TREE KING]

Bigger is one thing, heavier is another. Stay with what you know though...

i just got the most airy buds ive ever grown from dyna with less crystals wasnt impressed at all

 

[frunzulita]

Hi guys, last winter my bloombastic solution froze ,( because of my stupidity )can be used anymore ?
anyone???

 

[frunzulita]

anyone?

 

[AOD2012]

Has anyone noticed gunk in the rez after adding bloombastic? I went to the spot yesterday, and there was a shit ton of stuff floating around in my rez.


aod

 

[down2grow]

Try premixing(dillute) your bloombastic in another container before adding it to the res. Pour into the res a quarter at a time. That's what works for me in my blumat res.

 

[Builtaforest]

pretty gunky as it is out of the bottle...

i'd keep it away from the blumat resevoir, feed by hand on days you want to hit them with the bloombastic...

h&g drip clean is recommended

 

[TheBioMaster]

Thats one of reasons Bloombastic did not rate very high when tested. For one it has clay in it for a carrier and you will NEVER get that clay to dissolve no matter what you try or how you mix it. It will always settle to the bottom and separate......can wreak havoc in a hydro system for sure!!

It should not however cause stuff to float in the res as someone here described.....the stuff that separates and will not dissolve (The clay carrier) sinks to the bottom and does not float. Not sure what is floating in your res but it didnt come from Bloombastic.

 

[Avenger]

Thats one of reasons Bloombastic did not rate very high when tested. For one it has clay in it for a carrier and you will NEVER get that clay to dissolve no matter what you try or how you mix it. It will always settle to the bottom and separate......can wreak havoc in a hydro system for sure!!

It should not however cause stuff to float in the res as someone here described.....the stuff that separates and will not dissolve (The clay carrier) sinks to the bottom and does not float. Not sure what is floating in your res but it didnt come from Bloombastic.

I've heard you speak of this"clay" in bloombastic a couple times. do you have any idea what kind of clay they use? or why?

 

[YosemiteSam]

I have a guess...they use a strong acid and a strong base in a concentrated soln. What better way to hide precipitation than clay...a very fine clay, probably bentonite or montmerilite (or however you spell that).

I would not want to be the guy mixing that stuff.

 

[TheBioMaster]

i just got the most airy buds ive ever grown from dyna with less crystals wasnt impressed at all

Then your doing something wrong plain and simple....you have probably been following AN's backward ass advice for too long.....

His response is VERY typical however of someone who has wasted so much money on AN's products.....I would be pissed also if I was spending literally 5 times the cost of BETTER working nutrients, and someone called me on it.....it would be embarrassing to say the least..LOL!!......they are good at brain washing people and marketing.....but not so good at making nutrients....

Anyone who can not see the marketing tactics at play by AN should take a class or something or read a freakin book on plant nutrition......JEEZZ I am so sick of these stupid fuckers!!

The kicker is that once you actually LEARN something about plant nutrition, you will realize that AN uses the cheapest shit available like UREA for a nitrogen source in a hydroponic formula....now anyone who knows anything at all about hydro knows you do not want to use UREA for a nitrogen source, in soil it is not my first choice still.... but it will at least work "ok", if your strapped for cash and trying to go on the cheap....I mean UREA is mammal piss after all!! ROFL!!

An on going bet is that big fat mike and friends all take turns pissing in the AN bottles at the product facilities for its nitrogen source.....LOL!! The picture in my mind is fat mike and a group of rich execs standing outside a large brick building all with there peckers in hand and surrounded by crates of product .........LOL!!

Now you would think with all the PHD's on staff at AN....ROFL!!! that they would know this and especially since they do so much research on mj...ROFL!!!! WHAT UTTER BS!!!!

If you ever want to see the TRUE side of AN, and stop the ignorance.... simply ask them about there PH perfect line and who makes the CHEMICAL for AN that stabalizes the PH.....you will notice some stuttering followed by some BS for a answer....they do not want you to know that a CHEMICAL company makes this chemical for them that they add to the ph perfect formula.....they will not tell anyone what it is....

Also the first company that agreed to make it for AN backed out at the last minute and said NO......wonder why?? This is what delayed the AN PH perfect line from coming out ......that and all the label violations.....it still is not available in the USA or if it is, it is VERY few as most all states will not allow it on the shelves.....doesnt that tell you something??? It really should.

If you know anything at all about AN you should know that the AG people want them gone...shut down....the products are being removed from states and shelves at a very rapid rate that is about to increase big time......rocky roads ahead for AN for sure.....all the BS is catching up to them.....they have a SLEW of different people and governing bodies after them on several different issues that will make the products un available in most all US states starting with Cali....

Dyna-gro has been on the market for over 30 years now.......I think that is enough proof that it works well considering how many people have been using for that long with GREAT success!

ANYONE who tells you Dyna-gro is crap either has a alter motive for saying so, or they do not know what the hell they are doing or talking about...plain and SIMPLE!! PERIOD!! END OF STORY!! GOOD NIGHT!!! PLEASE COME AGAIN!!! GET IT??? NEXT......

 

[TheBioMaster]

I've heard you speak of this"clay" in bloombastic a couple times. do you have any idea what kind of clay they use? or why?

The clay as I mentioned is used as a "carrier".

Clay is used in MANY powder type root inoculates like Great White for example.....

I did a really long test on this product about a year ago. I got the information about the clay carrier from the tech we worked with at Atami.

 

[TheBioMaster]

If you like what Bloombastic did for you and want to use it without the clay and other crap in the bottle....then simply get some Triacontanol and some seaweed extract......

Triacontanol is a growth stimulant and the most concentrated amount I have seen is in a product called Snow Storm Ultra.

 

[Bobby Stainless]

That maybe so^

But does it come in a stainless steel bottle?

 

[YosemiteSam]

What...specifically...is wrong with urea as a nitrogen source and please include the chemical reactions in your answer Bio. Depending on that reaction and how much CO3 you have in your water/nutes it might not be that bad at all. There is nothing wrong with cheap ingredients as long as they fit the overall design. Why would you use something expensive if something cheap will work?

I would also like to see a citation showing that extra P in flower does a single thing. P converts to ATP for energy...enough is enough imo, more is not better. In fact too much could mess with the microbiology and get in the way of the Mg/K interaction.

edit...and what is the function of a "carrier"? I stand by my guess that this formula is so fucked up from a water chemistry point of view that they use it to hide precipitation...period.

 

[joesmithjoe]

FYI- We tested Bloombastic and also there root product called Rootbastic and both tested "ok" at best. We did some side by side test as well as analysis. The side by side test were done using Koolbloom liquid and powder as well as several other bloom boosters like Big Bud from AN.

I wont bore you with all the details but in a nutshell Bloombastic rated about 4th in the boosters. Below are some key points we found during testing you may find helpful.

Koolbloom liquid and powder combo did much better than Bloombastic in all the test we did.

All test were performed in a RDWC system using grow stones for the media.

The worst thing about bloombastic is that it will seperate and leave a "powder" like substance in the tanks. The organics in Bloombastic never were broken down even at the end of the cycle.

Bloombastic needs a strong and diverse biology present to fully work as there are sources of plant nutrients that are not available to the plants directly. A grower running a sterile tank will see the least amount of gain from the product. A grower with a strong micro-herd present will notice the most gain from the product.

Bloombastic would be better suited for a soil enviroment running organics.

With that said, Bloombastic does have some mineral properties and a grower "could" see a gain from that (example would be someone running the Lucas formula in which case those plants would be starving of certain minerals, and the addition of a additive like bloombastic would initiate a grow "surge" for sure) just not enough to justify the price IMO as the amounts would be considered "trace".

Someone running a more balanced profile would notice very little gain if any at all with the addition of Bloombastic as there plants are already getting a balanced diet, and as previously stated the amounts available are trace amounts.

Please note that trace amounts of certain minerals is all that is needed/recomended or ever used by the plants and this is not always a "bad" thing.

Still pending analysis of content including culture test (bacteria/fungi) and hormones.

Summary- Bloombastic is over priced for what you actually get in the bottle and a grower would be better off using a cheaper alternative for boosters if any at all.

Rated- 5 out of 10

So what was #1?

 

[deltagrower99]

I switched from bloombastic to hammerhead and moab and i wont look back. Cleaner cheaper and more weight. I havnt used them both on the same strain but i would bet the quailty would be about the same.

 

[Nightshifts]

Bloombastic is the best bloom booster I have ever tried. That being said. Anyone know what is up with their website? I have been trying to get some questions answered from tech support for the past week.

 

[GroBot810]

I agree with bobby.when growin a lucrative crop spare no expense.if you keep your feed "simple" so too will be your yield, quality ...so on.imo.

 

[GroBot810]

I switched from bloombastic to hammerhead and moab and i wont look back. Cleaner cheaper and more weight. I havnt used them both on the same strain but i would bet the quailty would be about the same.

Moab and all Mad Farmer products rock.the nutrient uptake solution is second to none.best fulvic ive used yet.his silica is very clean also.mixes nicely