Has the Higgs boson been found? Signs point to ... almost

[Hash Zeppelin]

EXACTLY like evolution.

It takes faith to believe either THEORY.

Personally, I'll side with the one that doesn't FORCEFULLY take my income to support their wild and expensive theories...

Never had ANY religion take 30% of the top...simply for attempting to survive...



dank.Frank

sorry dank frank my friend you have bought into christian bull shit there.

First off a scientific theory does not come around unless there is a lot of supporting evidence, Before that it is called a hypothesis. Gravity is still just a theory, but I don't see any one jumping off buildings with out parachutes to prove it wrong. See part of the christian ignorance is that they dont even understand the basic scientific method that is taught to children in elementary school. science scares Christians so bad they just totally block it out. They have been doing it since it was discovered that the earth was in fact NOT the center of the universe. If you deny evolution you might as well denounce any belief in science and go play in traffic to prove god will save you.

Evolution has tons and tons of REAL PHYSICAL HOLD IN YOUR HAND EVIDENCE. Archaeological have accurate fossil and rock records going back billions of years. Not only has the "missing link" been found,so have multiple other links in the chain that show gradual evolution. Human history alone has been tracked by fossil records and DNA back to it's origins. 50,000 years ago. There is a tribe in Africa that has every single DNA trait on the planet in their genes. Scientist went to every culture on earth including south American rain forest tribes that only breed with their tribe for hundreds of years, and you can find the DNA of the original people in them from the tribe in Africa.

WATCH ALL 13 OF THESE
Journey of Man: A Genetic Odyssey (Part 1 of 13)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV6A8oGtPc4

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I'm bored so I'll give it a shot.

Ok here goes:

anything with a mass of 0.00000000000000000000001g or less, will act in accordance with the laws of quantum mechanics. ie. will pop up in one place, then another without necessarily going anywhere inbetween. They can move at speeds (I'll keep it simple though there are arguments against this limitation that I'd love to discuss) up to the speed of light without the old infinate energy objection being raised. For instance a single photon of light is at 1% of the mass limit. But the question is, why doesn't anything above this mass limit behave in the same way? In the very first instance of the universe, everything behaved in this way, yet very quickly ie less than a second afterwards, you get classical physics (newtonian) where if you throw a beach ball to your mate, before it gets there it must follow a path where it exists in each point sequentially, and has a speed limit. Higgs proposed that what causes that, is a subatomic resistance particle which should exist almost in the same way as the old concept of the ether. Ie its all around us but we just can't see it. And this resistance is what we call mass, the greater the resistance to the alteration of its current movement, the greater the mass it is said to have. But the resistance S.A.P. is yet to be found. Or maybe it isn't.

But the question is, why doesn't anything above this mass limit behave in the same way?

My guess is anything above this mass no longer acts like an electron.

 

[GMT]

That's right, but why?

Personally, and this is a belief, not something I'd try to claim to be true, I believe in a quantum multiverse. If you see each universe as consisting of a cheese grater type of surface, then very small things will be able to fall through the holes, from one to the next universe, and explains why electrons et al will appear and vannish at times. Yet anything bigger will simply roll over the holes and be stuck in the one universe.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I see. Well... not really. I thought the larger particles might be influenced by attraction due to their mass.

 

[Mia]

We're back to the ether take two.....
didn't turn out so well the first time.

 

[GMT]

Disco, yes but that doesn't explain the difference, even single light photons still have mass, the thing we need to prove really, is both why mass exists (enter the higgs) and why there is this barrier below which Q.M. operates and above which classical physics operates.

 

[lost in a sea]

We're back to the ether take two.....
didn't turn out so well the first time.

every single time the truth has even glimmered to the masses it has been attacked/burned ridiculed and covered over with some puppet fake clone eventually if powerful enough, until its just nonsense,,

and the best scientists were all born in the 1800's imo, they were the best informed and had the best chances to properly apply human critical thinking to a load of fields that hadnt been "proven" yet like we say things are today and suddenly you cant challenge the consensus anymore like the blackhole/dark matter bs.. back then they knew it is an electric universe with plasma throughout causing the differences in the substance they called ether,, and basically that this gravity based model we see car salemen selling us is propped up on a pyramid of unproven mathamatics started in the 16/1700s with only one aim,,

there was still some sense around at the turn of the 19th but then the world wars just fucked it all up,, everything since then has basically revolved around communications(speeding life up), psychology(propaganda), weapon technology, gene mapping of bacteria/viruses and humans,, and pharma "medicines" for the most part,, though it has been cleverly cloaked as something good for humanity, it actually all just helped them control everyone in every nation globally..

and all were things the nazis spent all their time on and america refined to this point, with the help of the nazi scientists and personel and their children smuggled over to america lol..

science was just the search for truth at one point and now its long long dead and not at all objective,, even if people go on about statistically significantly hypothesise in peer reviewed studies,, it doesnt make it truth,, no p value proves a hypothesis,, so something can have the science seal of approval and we know the world doesnt work like that where some cult of the time's so called infallable system can say what is true® because its its the same trick over again with an even more facist belief system about horrible nonsense like scary blackholes and spooky dark matter cooked up and put into place by fools born to lie this time,,,

christianity and islam are being murdered and what will replace them will be infinitely more self deprecating/sado masochistic and ignorant of truth than anyone thinks the monotheisms of today are,, just wait and see,, its a planned paradigm shift and allsorts of things are on the way out and way in as the players in this farce of a play change roles,, and they kill off any peaceful secularists,,

the writing's on the wall, been there ages now its no wonder men like george orwell(Eric Blair) and many others could so easily predict where we would be today..

so no matter what people want to say science is an attack on religion because religion is now the accepted utter nonesense and science is vying for the class retard chair by the day,,

of course if christianity was about teaching people the meaning of christs words and not mindlessly worshipping some entity we were supposedly made in the image of, and somehow believing the bible to be all gospel fact,, and if science would sort its head out and get back to the study of the real electromagnetic forces governing our world and not imagining more crap into existence,, then things would be back as they were back when sanity still ruled..

after all christianity was a good thing at one time with clever people that absolutely were not literalists, because literalists are easily manipulatable, as has been known basically since the dawn of time, those people christ wouldn't let hear the truth for fear they would judas his ass , but the christian movenment (which was around before christ and has probably been called science before lol) was infiltrated when rome jumped on the band wagon instead of fighting a losing battle against it,, took a few hundred years for the babylonian church to change its name to catholicism and pick the crucifix for its symbol to show to the world that they would do the same thing to you, as they did christ, if you dont buy the bullshit in the bible hook line and sinker..

and science was a good thing at one time when great men like galileo or thomas harriot were being persecuted and burned alive by the crown and gown, rome and her church, but at the same time opening pages in the book of truth, or when socrates and hypathia were around over a thousand years before that being persecuted by the same medusas head, a leviathan with a hatred for knowledge that sets people free..

the search for truth needs another path to flower anymore, imo, because unless science gets sorted out at the top of the house of cards it has become it will be the next religion, of the next dark age, and to the detriment of enlightening the masses,, if it continues down this path people will only get more mentally disconnected with reality and the natural laws that govern our world and physical existence,, with a great fall before them,,

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[GMT]

Science never seeks to explain why things work, merely when they work. A good scientific "theory" is: When you apply A to B then you will observe C happening. It is a tool that allows predictions to be made, and that allows us to then use those predictions to manipulate our surroundings. Science even tips its hat to deductive logic, accepting that it is merely content with inductive logic, by calling its discoveries "theories", and so aknowledging that C may not happen the next time A is applied to B. Pure research seeks to make new observations in fields of interest, and it's only when the media get involved that we start to hear talk of cause and effect. This is because pure science is of little interest to the masses who need to feel secure in the knowledge that they don't need to think of such things because other smarter people will do it for them. This frees them up to watch X factor and go shopping.
Black holes have been observed, and are a real phenomenon, precisely how they work is the subject of best guesses and mathematical models that seem to produce the same results as we can observe. However they are not the same thing as talking about a magic man in the sky. Hatred and fear cause people to do horrible things to each other, and this is always brought about by perceived differences. Whether physical attributes, or belief systems / ways of life. It's not until people recognise each other as themselves in a different environment, or the environment becomes universal, that people will see we are 1 in the same struggle for continued life and happiness. While the worlds religions can't agree on what the magic man is, never mind what he wants, how can those who seek to merely do the bidding of their religious / community leaders, ever grow to a point that they can overcome the fear / hatred of those who are different, without shaking off the dogma of those who wish to maintain their power / influence over them? In my view, scientific advances offer the masses an option to do just this. Once we stop thinking in terms of "it is so because He willed it so", we can leave why it is so to the philosophers who will apply deductive reasoning to it, and pay attention to the scientists who every now and then will say, "oh wow, look at this, we found something new, and it behaves like this". The laws of physics are universal, they apply to us all equally, and we can predict how they will behave without guessing at what they want from us, or who we need to persecute next. To view science as being against religion is not accurate, though to see it as an escape is.

 

[lost in a sea]

what black hole has been observed?

it has been theorised to explain certain solar systems that under the current model couldnt exist any other way but im pretty sure its only been ocular distortions that they have found to attempt to prove a black hole and that can be caused by many factors..

its just magic maths..

you cant compress matter down more than it is already, because elements are held together by the unbelievably powerful electrostatic interactions of the protons neutrons and electrons within them that decide the mass and various properties of that element,, they go againsts that arguement with crap about space time distortions allowing it to happen but there is no precedent or proof so we again come back to theorised mathamatics and an endless line of propped up theories..

so yeah im pretty sure that wherever they attempt to apply the blackhole garbage there is the electric universe to provide a much more salient model to explain the phenomena causing whatever,,

there are quite a few men involved with this fallacy, that have worked for the church and its finaciers essentially if you check their backgrounds,, one was pierre laplace,,

Pierre Laplace ~ On February 10, 1773, Pierre Simon Laplace, a twenty-three years old scientist, read before the Academy of Sciences in Paris a paper in which, on the basis of the Newtonian theory of gravitation, he announced the invariability of planetary mean motions. “This was the first step in the establishment of the stability of the solar system,” says the Encyclopaedia Britannica (14th ed.). A mathematical genius, Laplace showed in a mathematical analysis that the planets must proceed on their paths to the end of time and that, accordingly, they have been on their present orbits since the very beginning. In a series of papers Laplace and Lagrange, another mathematical genius whose ideas went in the same direction, vied in a complete substantiation of this thesis of invariability of the planetary mean motions. No planet could ever have joined the family of the planets; no planet has ever changed its orbit. It was a work of stability in the cosmos carried through to the very eve of the French Revolution.

In 1796, in a note to the Exposition du systeme du monde, Laplace offered his idea of the origin of the solar system. it was a large nebula, it rotated, and because of the gravitation of the mass to its center, a sun formed itself in the middle, and condensed. The outer parts of the nebula broke into rings, and the rings rolled themselves into globes—the planets. He insisted that there could be no accident in the fact that the sun, all known planets, all known satellites, roll in the same direction, counterclockwise. And, being a master of the theory of probabilities, he concluded that there are four billion chances against one that this plan is not the result of chance. Even the best known historical events have not been authenticated at the same ratio of four billion against one. By today we known that Laplace was wrong: with the discovery of the first retrograde satellite—and today more than ten retrograde satellites are known. The rotation of Venus is also retrograde, as is that of Uranus, discovered in 1781. The four billion against one odds became zero against one: there may still be a common plan in the arrangement, but this plan was no more evident.

and this still underpins the gravity model despite it being wrong,,

the problem is that humans now want to believe that everything is now as it was for billions of years and that simply isnt true,, a mere 3000 years ago the electromagnetic state of our solar system caused planets to loom near and the forces that govern nature to fall out of the calm state they were in,, the deluges and cosmic thunderbolts caused by these plasmasphere interactions caused the storylines we think of as paganism and was exactly why they deified the planets,, like zeus/jupiter throwing lightening bolts or ares/mars killing all the giant beasts,, venus was worshipped globally because of the terror it caused everytime it passed near the earth for fear of the consequences..

it will all happen again like it always has done and people will forget the age we are in now ever existed as it is is covered over and renewed in this endless cycle..

the principle of uniformity is what men like laplace, newton, lyell, darwin, einstein etc have all helped become a reality and is why we do not understand the real science, it is why science is an attack on religions dunce hat in our era, it is also why humanity in general has absolutely no clue anymore why our anticedants of recent antiquity were pagans,, and all with basically the same story and pantheon for the planets in cultures around the entire earth..

"the principle of uniformity" is hugely tied in with the gravity based universal model, they are inseperable,, and since the creator and destroyer in the universe is electromagnetism, then if science is following the priciple of uniformity and universal gravity model it is an attack on what we have decided defines god, whilst attacking itself through ignorance and attacking religion,, all at the same time as demanding faith of the populace.. gravity is one of the weakest forces in nature and the electric force one of, if not, the most powerful in the entire universe..

roughly a "thousand trillion trillion trillion times" more powerful than gravity.. that is 10 to the power 39..

so really as i see it people cant say that science and religion dont contradict because science is becoming the new religion as it sucks any common sense out of humanity down its black hole,,

im not religious, but i did call myself a scientist at one time..

and on the evolution thing, mutation has been responsible for far far more changes in gene expression and the formation of new species than survival of the fittest, which is a very very slow process,, most species that have ever existed exploded into the world relatively and exited even quicker..

people think that geology, astrophysics and evolutionary biology are refined sciences with most things answered but the anomalies within them are huge great big problems that have just been skirted around on purpose,, which seriously is not what "science" is supposed to do at all..

geology and archeology are some of the worst, the ignorance surrounding these fields is staggering quite frankly..

science should be the search for truth, but it isnt, its the search for answers that fit the model.. and where have we seen that before ?

 

[PhenoMenal]

what black hole has been observed?

Yes, and news of the discovery of another quite unique one was released just a few days ago, see http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/space_time/black_holes/

Sydney, July 12, 2012: Surprisingly, scientists have for the first time ever detected the radio waves emanating from a mid-sized black hole, called the HLX-1, around 300 million light years away, located in a galaxy called ESO 243-49.

A team led by Sean Farrell from the University of Sydney's School of Physics, which detected those signals, said these also allow them to estimate the size of the newly discovered black hole.

"Black holes are areas where the matter is so densely squeezed into a small space that it makes gravity pull strongly enough to stop light from escaping," said Farrell, in the journal Nature.

"Astronomers have classified black holes into stellar mass black holes, which are up to tens of times the mass of our sun, and super massive black holes, which are millions to billions of times the mass of our sun," said Farrell, according to a Sydney statement.

"HLX-1 lies in between these two sizes at around 20,000 times the mass of our sun. So we've called it an intermediate mass black hole," said Farrell.

"HLX-1 is located in a galaxy called ESO 243-49 about 300 million light years away from us," he added.

Using the Australia Telescope Compact Array and NASA's Swift satellite, the team that included scientists from France, Britain and the US examined radio emissions during two state transitions of the black hole HLX-1 in 2010 and 2011.

Emil Lenc, Farrell's counterpart at the School of Physics, said: "So, what we tend to see is the X-ray emission and then, a day or two or even a few days later, the source flares up in radio waves."

 

[lost in a sea]

thats just radiowaves,, to be honest they have been misdiagnosing the source of anomalous radiowaves forever,,

to me that doesnt look conclusive at all but im sure others would say "well what else could it be?",,

they still say that the cosmic background radiation proves the big bang theory but that is based on the wrong application of physics and i would argue that the same is true for just receiving radio waves and saying that it must be a blackhole causing them, because there are lots of other phenomena that can cause the same radio/x-ray waves..

you could argue this counts as an observation of a black hole but that is only for a want of an alternative theory on what could create those radiowaves..

here's an alternative take

May 29, 2012
This TPOD was originally published on December 5, 2011.

More news about black holes is increasing the distortion of reason.
According to a recent press release, two black holes with masses exceeding “9 billion times the mass of the Sun” have been detected. The supposed “event horizon” in NGC 3842 is said to be “seven times larger than Pluto’s orbit.”
Black holes are mathematical constructs based on an improper interpretation of some equations. Those formulae reify the existence of objects that are theorized to wrench space itself into a twisted pretzel, so that various calculations about velocity and mass yield impossible results. Inside the event horizon of a black hole, matter is said to occupy no volume, yet it retains a gravitational field so intense that not even light can escape, while time is said to slow to a crawl. Black holes are “black” because they cannot be seen.
Previous Picture of the Day articles determined that the terminology invented by astrophysicists relies on speculations derived from the aforementioned loose interpretations. Concepts of “space/time,” “multi-verses,” “singularities,” and other non-quantifiable ideas verge on the ironic, rather than on a realistic investigation into the nature of the Universe.
Black holes are thought to form when stars that are at least five times the Sun’s mass reach the end of their lives, after having exhausted their hydrogen fuel. As the standard model of stellar evolution speculates, those stars accumulate heavier atomic nuclei in their core fusion reactors, slowing the reaction, and making it impossible for them to push their outer surfaces away from their centers with radiative pressure. Gravity overcomes fusion, so the star’s gaseous envelope suddenly collapses, rebounding off the core in what astronomers call a “supernova explosion.”
Gravity is no longer hindered by a radiating core, so the core is is supposed to shrink under that force. As a result, the star disappears from normal space, compressing itself into a near infinitely dense mass with no geometry. A ghost of the star’s presence remains as an irresistible gravitational source that can continue to attract material into its hypothetical maw. That is how black holes are thought to grow.
There is no experimental evidence indicating matter can be compressed to almost infinite density. It is not clear to the consensus scientific community how stars form supernovae, because supernovae do not form spherical shells when they explode; they form glowing bipolar plasma formations like an hourglass. Also, no one knows precisely how a black hole gathers matter into an “accretion disk” and grows to billions of solar masses.
As we have noted in the past, Hannes Alfvén identified the “exploding double layer” as a new class of celestial object. It is double layers in space plasmas that form most of the unusual structures we see. Stellar explosions, jets, rings, and glowing clouds are all examples of electricity flowing through dusty plasma confined within Birkeland currents that stretch across the light years.
Electromagnetic compression zones (z-pinches) in plasma filaments form plasmoids that eventually evolve into stars and galaxies. Electricity is responsible for the birth of stars, and when the current density gets too high double layers in the circuit may catastrophically break the circuit and release the electromagnetic energy stored in the local galactic circuit. The result is the stupendous outburst of a supernova.
In the electric star hypothesis, no concentrated gravity from hypothetical super-compacted objects and “singularities” is necessary. Classical “laws” of electromagnetism are more than able to create the phenomena we see, without recourse to the supernatural physics of supermassive black holes. Expulsion disks are common in such energetic systems rather than “accretion disks.”
Instead of black holes, galaxies possess plasmoids as their driving engines. Gamma ray (and X-ray) observations of our own galactic core reveal a plasma torus there. High frequency radiation from the plasmoid is similar to that from electrically excited stars. Prodigious electromagnetic energy from the galaxy is stored in the matter trapped in the compact plasmoid. The plasmoid therefore exhibits immense mass, derived from the well-known E = mc2 equivalence. So it is the gravity of the plasmoid that accelerates stars to the high speeds mistakenly attributed to an imaginary and unphysical black hole.

Stephen Smith and Wal Thornhill

taken from thunderbolts.info

May 25, 2012
Problematic black hole physics is in the news again.
In a recent press release from the Galaxy Evolution Explorer and the Pan-STARRS1 telescope in Hawaii, astronomers announced “direct evidence” for the existence of a supermassive black hole (SMBH) in another galaxy. The high frequency ultraviolet spectrum, as well as the infrared light from the two detectors, seems to indicate the “shredding” of a star near the center of a galaxy 2.7 billion light-years away.
Black holes have been discussed many times in previous Picture of the Day articles. They owe their existence to mathematical legerdemain, and can have nothing to do with the substantive Universe because they are said to occupy a region where the laws of space and time break down.
Black holes are said to cause space and time itself to twist and warp so that the past becomes the future and velocity calculations yield impossible solutions. According to standard theories, matter inside of a black hole occupies no volume at all, yet retains gravitational acceleration so great that not even light can escape its attraction—thus they are “black” holes because they cannot be detected with optical telescopes. Although they are impossible to observe directly, over 90% of galaxies in the Universe are supposed to harbor these perilous maws
The terminology used by astrophysicists to describe black holes is highly problematic, relying on “explanations” derived from loose interpretations. Ambiguous labels such as space/time, singularities, infinite density, and other ideas that are not quantifiable have introduced irony into what should be a realistic investigation into the nature of the Universe.
According to Suvi Gezari, an astronomer from Johns Hopkins University, “When the star is ripped apart by the gravitational forces of the black hole, some part of the star’s remains falls into the black hole, while the rest is ejected at high speeds. We are seeing the glow from the stellar gas falling into the black hole over time.”
NASA’s Chandra X-ray Observatory also looked at the hot material in order to see if it matched the emissions normally seen in an “active galactic nucleus”. Their results indicated that the spectrum observed by Gezari’s group did not conform to those prior observations.
Flares and X-ray jets spewing from galaxies are thought to be caused by stars traveling too close to their central supermassive black holes where they are torn apart by tidal forces. Most of the star’s gas escapes the black hole, but a small quantity is captured by the immense gravity and forms a rotating disk. Closer to the black hole, heat generated by molecular collisions tears the atoms apart and the disk of gas glows in extreme ultraviolet and X-rays. When matter eventually falls into the black hole, gamma rays can also explosively burst out.
X-rays in space are not created in gravity fields. Laboratory experiments most easily produce them by accelerating charged particles through an electric field. No gigantic masses compressed into tiny volumes are necessary and they are easily generated with the proper experimental models.
To say that gas can be heated by gravity until it emits X-rays indicates a serious lapse on the part of the GALEX research team. Molecules of gas cannot remain intact at million degree temperatures because electrons are stripped from the atomic nuclei, causing them to become ionized. Instead of hot gas, the galactic radiation should be referred to by its proper name: plasma.
An electric current in plasma generates a magnetic field that constricts the flow of charge. The constricted channel is known as a Bennett pinch, or z-pinch. The “pinched” filaments of electric current remain coherent over large distances, spiraling around each other, forming helical structures that can transmit power through space.
As we have noted in the past, Hannes Alfvén identified the “exploding double layer” as a new class of celestial object. It is double layers in space plasmas that form most of the unusual structures we see. Stellar explosions, jets, rings, and glowing clouds—these are all examples of electricity flowing through dusty plasma confined within Birkeland currents that stretch across the light years.
Retired Professor of Electrical Engineering Donald Scott, author of The Electric Sky, wrote about the way plasma acts in the Universe: “Plasma phenomena are scalable. Their electrical and physical properties remain the same, independent of the size of the plasma. In a laboratory plasma, of course, things happen much more quickly than on, say, galaxy scales, but the phenomena are identical—they obey the same laws of physics. In other words we can make accurate models of cosmic scale plasma behavior in the lab, and generate effects that mimic those observed in space. It has been demonstrated that plasma phenomena can be scaled to fourteen orders of magnitude. (Alfvén hypothesized that they can be scaled to 28 orders or more!) Electric currents flowing in plasmas produce most of the observed astronomical phenomena that remain inexplicable if we assume gravity and magnetism to be the only forces at work.”
Irrespective of their source, X-rays in space are not created by gravitational fields regardless of how strong they are theorized to be. Since plasma is composed of charged particles, the particles are accelerated by electric currents and spiral in the resulting magnetic fields, creating synchrotron radiation that can shine in all high energy frequencies, including extreme ultraviolet, X-rays, and gamma rays.


Stephen Smith

One of the largest “active galaxies” is thought to be powered by a supermassive black hole. Electrical energy is a more likely driving force.
A recent press release from the European Southern Observatory (ESO) announces that the elliptical galaxy Centaurus A is ejecting a light-years long jet of material because a “supermassive black hole [is] at its heart”. Astronomical theories state that the radio-bright nucleus and the jet come from the compression of interstellar material as it is drawn into a central black hole possessing a mass greater than 100 million average stars.
From gamma-rays down through X-rays and extreme ultraviolet, conventional theories have relied on gravity and acceleration for radiation to be produced in space. Compressing hydrogen gas and dust is supposed to create enough transfer of momentum that it reaches temperatures in the millions of degrees. That high temperature is supposed to make the gas and dust glow brightly and emit high-frequency radiation.
Since the idea that electricity flows through the Universe is commonly met with resistance by today’s consensus, its influence and attributes are unseen. It has long been said that “seeing is believing”. However, it should not be surprising that “believing is seeing” appears to be more apt. When there is no inner experience, outer realities can often remain invisible.
Electric currents surge out along galactic spin axes, forming double layers that, like those in Centaurus A, can be seen as radio “lobes.” The electric charges spread out around the galactic circumference, flowing back to the core along the spiral arms. Since the elements in a galactic circuit radiate energy, that energetic radiance shows that they are powered by larger circuits. The extent of the larger circuits may be traced by radio telescopes through the polarized radio “noise” coming from them.
The fact that moving charges constitute an electric current that can generate magnetic fields has been known since the days of Michael Faraday. However, a lack of appropriate training often means a lack of vision. As previously stated, moving charged particles constitute an electric current, and that current is wrapped in a magnetic field. When more charged particles accelerate in the same direction, the field gets stronger.
Something that researchers do not consider is that for charged particles to move, they must move in a circuit. Energetic events cannot be explained by local conditions, alone. The effects of an entire circuit must be considered. For that reason, while the consensus scientific worldview only permits isolated “islands” in space, the Electric Universe emphasizes connectivity with an electrically active network of “transmission lines” composed of Birkeland current filaments.
Double layers and plasmoids expand and explode, throwing off plasma that can accelerate to near light-speed. Jets from opposite poles of a galaxy end in energetic clouds emitting X-ray frequencies, or radio waves. Those phenomena are based in plasma science and not gas kinetics, gravity, or particle physics. Astrophysicists see magnetic fields but not the underlying electricity, so they are at a loss to explain them.
Astronomers maintain that galaxies are clouds of hydrogen gas and intergalactic dust that were assembled by gravity until they coalesced into glowing thermonuclear fires. The conventional community also proposes that most galaxies contain black holes of unbelievable magnitude. It is those “gravitational point sources” that are supposed to cause the galaxies to spin, jets of gamma-rays to appear, and the radio lobes to form.
The Electric Universe theory does not adhere to the idea of galaxies condensing out of cold, inert hydrogen and specks of zircon no bigger than a molecule. So, what are galaxies?
In 1981, Hannes Alfvén said that galaxies are much like one of Michael Faraday’s inventions, the homopolar motor. A homopolar motor is driven by magnetic fields induced in a circular conducting plate. The plate is mounted between the poles of an electromagnet, causing it to spin at a rate proportional to the input current.
Galaxies move within filamentary circuits of electricity that flow through the cosmos from beginning to end. We see the effects of those electromagnetic fields because electricity organizes itself within masses of plasma sometimes larger than galaxy clusters. That plasma is primarily composed of neutral atoms, but free electrons, protons, and other charged particles are also present.
Plasma’s behavior is governed by those circuits. Double layers with large voltages between them often exist. The electric forces in double layers are incomparably stronger than gravity. Double layers broadcast radio waves over a wide range of frequencies. Most significant to the ESO bulletin, they can accelerate charged particles to extreme energies.
This vision of the cosmos sees various components coupled to and driven by circuits at ever larger scales, so electrons and other ions accelerated through intense electric fields radiate “shouts” of energy in many bandwidths. It is that story that should be told and not the one about omnipotent gravity.


reproduced for non commercial information sharing within the fair use provisions of the copyright act from thunderbolts.info ..

 

[Suspect]

"It appears that gravity is actually caused by a massive current of energy flowing into the earth."
"Dr. Nassim Haramein made a strong argument that atoms are gravity-powered. Haramein studied the energy fields and behaviours around a black hole, and found that they looked exactly the same as what we see around the nucleus of an atom. In Haramein's model an atom is "a mini black hole, where protons are attracted to each other by gravitation rather than some mysterious, undefined 'strong force.'
In July 2010, a respected physicist concluded that gravity is "a side effect of something going on at deeper levels of reality" and "there is something more basic, from which gravity 'emerges'" - and this may explain mysteries such as "dark energy" and "dark matter"."

http://www.theresonanceproject.org/pdf/AIP_CP_SProton_Haramein.pdf

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/science/13gravity.html?_r=2

 

[Suspect]

If in fact everything contains mini black holes, then again they are taking the attention away from You, making it something scary and imminent in the spacelands.

 

[GMT]

To be honest, I'd rather get my science from somewhere that isn't pushing new age nonsense dvds for sale. We can measure the temperature of regions where black holes exist, we know that its not the case that nothing can escape from them, and Hawking proved that they would slowly, overtime evaporate. What goes on inside precisely cannot be observed. Science keeps it's own boundaries and then the media and salesmen take over. Sadly, there are people in this world who are happy to distort the observations that science makes, for their own gain. However this doesn't detract from scientific endevours, it merely detracts from the understanding of the masses, esp those who gain their understanding from non scientific outlets.

 

[Suspect]

Someone pushes new age videos and someone pulls it automatically from your wallet in form of taxes. Fortunately the new age nonsense is also easily available without cost.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

To be honest, I'd rather get my science from somewhere that isn't pushing new age nonsense dvds for sale. We can measure the temperature of regions where black holes exist, we know that its not the case that nothing can escape from them, and Hawking proved that they would slowly, overtime evaporate. What goes on inside precisely cannot be observed. Science keeps it's own boundaries and then the media and salesmen take over. Sadly, there are people in this world who are happy to distort the observations that science makes, for their own gain. However this doesn't detract from scientific endevours, it merely detracts from the understanding of the masses, esp those who gain their understanding from non scientific outlets.

^can't overemphasize that.^

I get why folks try to sell baloney, I don't get why folks buy it, chuck it and swear it's a kite.

 

[Suspect]

Crunch the fucking numbers in the pdf and shut up. Distort? lolplz.