Still Another Crappy Day in Paradise....Part Five.

[RedDirtWarrior]

Hey haole fellow (haole) hawaiian here, I was wondering what experiences you got with the sativas, I am looking for something hardy, tough, that I can grow deep in the koolaus without much tending. I just finished making my GIANT compost pile (literally 6-7 foot tall) which will be for next years grow. So they will be in decent soil, just mixing 50/50 native soil and compost.

I was thinking ACE seeds, I saw one of your ACE grows somewhere a while back, looked great but they were babied on your property, what advice you got for guerilla?

 

[oldhaole]

It's been a busy week. Once again LSY has read my rather impared mind.

This year has been a bumper year for coffee. I've spent a couple of hours each day picking the cherries, and the weather has been sunny so drying each days harvest has been duck soup. So far I'm keeping up with the crush...ain't lost a cherry yet.

The whole goal is my own homegrown coffee...enough to last me for the entire year. Think I'll get there this year....and last year I doubled the number of trees I have.

The way things work up here the coffee (if I sell some) gets us agricultural water rates. Hell...I save 50 bucks...and free coffee...but it's the thought that counts....told you all I'm a cheap fuck.

Took those Skunkdog clones. They came out fine. Headband also does good up here. Alien Abduction....ehh...they were only half the size of the Skunkdog. The AA just seems to grow slower...slower rooting...slower everything. Also the WPM was there, but the way the weather has been it hasn't been much of a problem.

Chem D is looking good...WPM likes it though. Looks like a good yield but I haven't harvested either yet. Same thing with the Valley OG. a little less in the yield dept though. And catterpillars like it a bit more, but we are going into that time so it could be a timing thing. Those are preliminary thoughts. I have yet to smoke either grown here.

As I've repeated endlessly as you all can vouch for this clone stuff is a lot of fun. I've got a couple of years work ahead of me seeing what works and what doesn't. Moving them back and forth is a pain...but it works. With Hawaii's fucked up law it is gonna be hard but important to keep those three mature" spots your allowed always in full flower. And clones are only "mature" for maybe...five weeks. Make it thru a single GH....Kinda of a jugling act...throw the Sativas in there...it'll get complicated...fast.

And of course....On one side we have the clones....easy, predictable...at least so far....and on the other we have the homemede crosses from seed. They take forever, unpredictable as hell...yet this is where all the potential is.

And only time will tell.

Sorry...Kinda wordy tonite...testing out the skunkdog and I'm happy to say...it works.

Anyway...

The garden is all planted, sexed, culled, the keepers kept, and this is the point where we let time do it's thing. In a month or so I'll build out bamboo frames around each plant. Right now the plants are tied down with fishing line run through quarter inch dripline so the line doesn't bite the stem.

Again...as I've said before...the weather has been fantastic. The entire Leeward side of all the islands are in extreme drought. Sucks if your running cattle, but good for watered plants.

Since I only have nine holes I'm gonna bore the crap out of you and document each one. And to do that we need some before shots of each plant. I'll start with the no originality straight Jack Herrer cross.

WTF?? Your running that again?

Guilty.

Stupid big yields, Fan a couple of plants out like this and you get a hedge. Fifteen ft long, ten ft high, and five ft wide. Each week pull it down. Last time I did a lot of damage framing the hedge. This time I'll build the frame early and let the plant grow into it.

Next up is a Headband x Rodney cross.

Want to know why I call it Rodney?

If any of my friends knew this was from Florida I'd never hear the end of it. Hawaiian weed? from Florida? I'd get run off the island. Rodney is Ganesville Green. The only problem is it does like to go off early. This year is no exception.

And lastly this is the only plant I'm not gonna mess with and pull over, She'll be my best shot for tall. As I rule I don'tlike tall because it is a bitch to get up there and spray. The area she's in is pretty flat so if I gotta go up a ladder, that place isn't too kamakazi. This is a creation we made a couple of years ago.

A cross between a Bloodweed girl and a White widow male. I wanted to run her one more time. This could blow up in my face because fags in this line are not unknown.



I'm a sucker. It started with a puppy. Then wifey said she needs a pal. OK....stupid. One turned into two....Cute little psyco pig dogs....The next generation of yard security. If your gonna do one you might as well do three.

Red Dirt Warrior...

Just caught me as I was goning to put this post to bed. Another lifetime ago I lived on Oahu. Went to school at UH.

If I remember correctly...doubtful...the story behind the picture is that ACE had created a thai x Vietnameese strain. My partner had done something simmilar, a few years earlier using Hawaiian genetics. Someone was asking about the Thai crosses and I threw that shot up as an example of what the strain looked like.

I planted on Oahu 20 years ago, I can only imagine how many more people are there now.

In my entire growing history I never paid for a seed. I have no clue what would do good there, so I build my own. I've grown here in many wet areas and I've always found upland thai crosses handle the rain and the soil well....but....they not the kind you can male once and forget about. Hardy as hell but not very stable plants.

The bloody widow plant pictured above is from the seed batch the pic you noticed. They handle rain well. Soil? no clue. Elephant Ear is a fantastic wet area plant, but the high is only a seven on a ten scale.

Rodney handles the rain pretty well, but I don't about the red dirt. JOJO has a thread going, he is still looking for the perfect strain. I'd look for as stable a Thai strain as I can find and try that. I can't recomend a specific breeder. I just don't know enough.

 

[Dirtboy808]

It is worm season they are here. Shit I thought you never got PM up their must be the clouds. Looking most excellent !! I ran away from Oahu in 79 too many people. Love the coffee trees. Aloha

 

[Chunkypigs]

aww, them some cute pups OH. nice lookin' plants also. I get motivated reading your threads because 20 years ago I was in LA fixin' to move over your way but I bailed for NYC instead.... i'm hoping to find a few cheap acres in Puna this winter and finish the dream. meanwhile i'm stuck gardening indoors this summer again. never had a plant outside yet either, but you help me wait for the day when I measure my plants in feet instead of inches....

 

[Rusty Trichome]

OH: Have you had any successes' with indica dominate strains out there, or do they all tend to promote the WPM? (is Hawaii Indica-deficient?)

There's nothing wrong with Gainsville Green that a little bong wouldn't take care of. Heck, there's worse names. Ever heard of
"Toledo Window-Box"?
It's a Link^^^

Cool pups.

 

[Horsemanrocks]

Summer came early this year....so the Rodney girls went out earlier than last and wasted no time going into flower. Suggesting to me that holding Gainesville Green back a little (putting them out a little later) could well pay dividends.

And if we're not going to have the "Cainfield Chronicals" of old and Green Harvest let's you slide....then all I can suggest is hookers and automatic weapons. But then what am I thinking...you are of course OH.

HMR.

 

[oldhaole]

Gee HRM...so true...so damn true. Thin gruel to work with this year. No security chasing us, No heavy backpacks, no searching for water...no looking for plants a block over...yea...I'm gonna miss that this year.

Hookers?...Hmmm. That would do the trick...pun intended...sorry I couldn't resist. Automatic weapons?... Yes...that would attract new eyes. F.B.eyes.

Green Harvest letting me slide? That would be better than hookers or an AK. At this point the plants are small. Hard to see from the air. Though my predictions about GH so far this year has been poor...They'll harass me this year.

So...dull as it is, you still have that to look forward to. Hell who knows? Dogs may maul some thieves...Anything can happen. Have faith.

My partner planted Rodney a month after me. His three plants are starting to flower. They look like mine did a month ago So either way I don't see them getting above 8 ft here.

Rusty...I'd bet Rodney is Indica dominant. Just my 2 cents. Again Is Hawaii Indica deficent? Again my 2 cents....Yea...but thats changing with time. Indica does ok...Sativa thrives...what are you going to work with?

Dirtboy...Growing anything here in a non humidity controled space WPM is always hanging around. As you know.... if you have a week or two of rainy afternoons just before harvest...your screwed. And just for the record the green worms think the Valley OG tastes better than the Chem D....I asked them.

WPM. A worthless pet peeve of mine. Budrot you can't do anything about. WPM can be kept in check. Like everything else different strains are more sucectable than others. Now I have all these new clones to play with...see what happens.

Chunky...Hope you grab your dream.

Just as I start to crow about how dry and great the weather was...It went and rained. Yesterday and today...about an inch total. Good timing. No damage done, but it's time to get on those frames.

One question that unfortunatly will probably get answered is how long it will take for the Chem D to rot. Probably will have to harvest her early.

Finish this post out with two more plants from seed. These are not in the gulch, I have to keep them down closer to the ground

First here is Hole 8 a Japaneese Hashplant

And here is Hole 9. A Dieselrella plant.

And here is the planted rockgarden. Next wave of clones comming right up.

 

[Canniwhatsis]

Beautiful!

 

[Dirtboy808]

The rain washed off the WPM and I bet the plants loved the rain and are growing even better. You are right about harvest time just a crap shoot. My clones will be ready mid next month. I don't have Bamboo or dirt to stick it in so I did cages like the mainland guys. Have you ever done wire cages ? I used 6x6x10 foundation wire. Just want to get you're thought since I can't copy you with the bamboo cages. Thanks Bra

 

[Dawn Patrol]

OH, I just popped some GG beans. It's just starting to get hot as fuck here so my plan is to take some cuttings and sex them in 30 days and keep them in veg until at least Aug 1. I'll start a separate thread if that's OK with you. Many thanks again!

 

[Dirtboy808]

OH GH is here. They have the Coastguard hele and a couple of his friends. They been working Puna this week lucky us get it over with. This will be my first year with big ones in plan view. I kinda like it when they are here it gets my blood flowing good.
Aloha DB

 

[oldhaole]

Dawn....Glad to hear it. Feel free to do the log. I hope your first true love is back.

Dirtboy...Big Mahalo. If the're there, they aren't here. Do they do the BI in a single week or does it take two? Would you know offhand?

I also owe Weez a mahalo too. Now I can head to town without checking the fields and worring if wifey is calling mom for one of her three hour catch up calls.

 

[LetsSeeYa]

worring if wifey is calling mom for one of her three hour catch up calls.

My freak ex would not talk to her mother for at least a year an a half, but then would talk for 4-5 hours on my dime, bitch. And her mother would send my daughter x-mas gifts in fucking July. These are some truly messed up people, my ex's sister majored in Russian and did nothing with it, like there is a big job opportunity to speak this language. But only to get married of course to another Mormon dude from south Africa. This religion only let people who are black join the ''church'' or ''temple'' till the damn 70's. Its one messed up religion, IMHO...........

Great looking pup's ya got there bro, i think it will keep the Mob younger, lol. Plus as they are pup's, man you can teach them a lot so i would go buy some of those kiddy scissors. Cut that trimming time in half



LSY

 

[nameless]

boomin as always OH. i was wonderin, if you need any more reports... you just let me know.
im still very happy with the DxR its a go to for when im having a crappy day and nothing else does it for me.

plants are shaping up to be beasts! and i like the landscaping this year too.

ps, congrats on the new pups!

 

[Dirtboy808]

Looks like one week but not sure. They spent another 4hours around the acres Thurs this is day 3 in Puna. Came home early from work 2pm and it was like nats in the air my wife said screw them and went back to gardening. They jump all over the place not much girding anymore. Also I was 3 over my budding limit and they passed me by. Aloha Bra have fun with the boys in the next week or 2

 

[Dirtboy808]

GH

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The coast guard and his little buddy. There were 2 more working other places. I haven't seen this much action in a long time.
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[oldhaole]

I haven't seen this much action in a long time.

Sounds like this week will be fun.

Again...thanks. Have one valley OG clone left inground. It'll be gone tomorow.

Last week was pretty much the other half of normal. Sunny mornings, clouds by noon, rain at three. We're dry as hell...so we needed it. The biggest plant had a few branches peel down, easily fixable, but just the kick in the ass I needed to just get everything framed out. Up to this point everything as been staked down. All I had to do is start them growing in the direction needed, so it was a real Mickey Mouse job. Now we support from above.

I've used bamboo frames since I grew my first big plant. It's a lot more work, but I think it works better here. Wraping a plant where humidity is low....is far easier. If I lived there that's what I would do.
But I don't.

When all the branches are hanging above you working around the stem is easier. Air circulates better. It is hurricane season...which...knock wood...seem to always miss Maui. But even a brush with a fallen apart tropical storm will mess things up. A day or two of thirty knot winds and driving rain...is very possible.

I dropped a tray of starts...Who here hasn't done that?...Only killed two. The only two Headband starts I have here...dust. There is one more inground left out there. Just a five mile walk away...guess what I'm doing tomorrow...

The two Chem D clones that were close to ready lasted three days in the weather. Answered that question. The Valley OG does far better. Still going.

Call me paranoid...

Gee OH...your paranoid...

But if they fly next week...and they bug me....I only have 14 plants...maybe six fall under their rather liberal definition of "mature".
....which is a joke. So I hope they fly next week. The week after that...we'll be back to 21.

Nameless...thanks for that kind offer. That DxR must be stems and powder by now.

 

[FlyinHawaiian]

Hey OH, your rock garden in the gulch looks sweet! looks like they'll get plenty room and sun like that. Hopfully its not too windy up there cuz it is down here, those bamboo braces look like they do there job though.

I actually grew in a gulch in kula awhile back, most strains couldnt take the mold being soaked in condensation every morning but dj shorts flo handled the mold pretty good, especially the 2nd generation seeds, they was very purple, in a cold winter one pheno was almost black! beautiful plants but low yeilders for their size compared to shanti's SSH which also did great up there.

I went for a ride the other day to scout for some watered cane feilds but nothing was being watered! bone dry except for a freshly planted feild.
I think your right, It's been so dry the cane probly wont work well at this time.
Im thinking of putting a few potted in this lil gulch i found that has some green trees and haul in the water and between me and my buddy water them once a week, this will be alot of work but I can keep em mostly organic.

Im thinking of using the brackish stream water they use for watering the canefeilds, do you think this water is ok? this doesn't have the 48-0-0 cane fert in it yet right? I sure hope not, it'd be alot easier to use this water than bring water from home but I'll do it with the quad or truck if its worth it.

 

[festivus]

Doesn't the brackish irrigation water contain broad leaf pesticide?

OH, hope the Olinda fire doesn't draw any unwanted attention.

 

[LetsSeeYa]

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/76f744165be14566b4ae7aec05d07485/HI--Maui-Wildfires

Just fire info,


LSY