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sx646522
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This information is in both the FAQ and the PDF spec sheets on CLW's site (as well as on resellers' sales pages like hydroasis.com) , though not necessarily in the HTML product page descriptions themselves.
Might be good if the manufacturer added it directly to the product page text, too.
Not every buyer is an informed one, and would typically check for additional information elsewhere beforehand. Though whether that's a good thing or not - is somewhat debatable. As always: Caveat Emptor.
Still - not good to have to dig for it more than necessary, eh folks?
Would hate to think that some distributor might intentionally hide this information for monetary gain.
-SX
Just wanted to pass this on; I inquired to Lumigrow yesterday as to why the ES165 only has a 3 yr. warranty, while the ES330 & Lumibar have 5 yrs, and this was the response.
Has anyone seen the Lumibar sold anywhere but from Lumigrow?
Has anyone seen the Lumibar sold anywhere but from Lumigrow?
sx646522
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Thanks Highlighter.
JHas anyone seen the Lumibar sold anywhere but from Lumigrow?
Only one I've seen so far is from igrowhydro, for $719:
http://www.igrowhydro.com/LumiGrow_LumiBar_LED.aspx
(Don't ask me where they got their 'list price', though. Lumi's site shows $799.)
Greners.com usually has these (Lumis) discounted, but haven't seen it pop up there yet. You can always call and ask...
If you want a deal, best thing to do is call up the manufacturer directly and negotiate. Who knows, they may knock off even more than they usually would if you promise to also run a journal.
Some folks seem reluctant to call up and talk directly to folks (paranoia, perhaps?), but most manufacturers are just happy to have your business. Developing a (good) relationship usually yields the best results, I've found.
Good luck!
-SX
Well, that's fucked up. The two lights have entirely different applications, footprint wise. It seems odd that they would discontinue the 165 since it is based on the same components as the 330 - seems like a gimme from a manufacturing standpoint. While I really like the concept of the Lumibar, it would take several of them to give good coverage, and I don't think they did a good job on their marketing research. They made the damn things 48" long, and our "4 foot" tents are all 47" thanks to the metric system.
SX is correct about contacting them. I've talked to them several times, and they couldn't be more pleasant to deal with. And they will indeed make you a better deal than list price.
SX is correct about contacting them. I've talked to them several times, and they couldn't be more pleasant to deal with. And they will indeed make you a better deal than list price.
Well, thats some bad PR for Gudomeled. I wonder why they arent trying to get into the US market more aggressively?
Anyway, ledgrow.eu has posted new results and has his panels ready for sale. The picture with 153g bag on the scale isn´t that convincing, looks pretty leafy trim for me. And using two panels with real consumption of 65w/pcs, I´m seeing only ~1.2gpw. Not that impressive.
Anyway, ledgrow.eu has posted new results and has his panels ready for sale. The picture with 153g bag on the scale isn´t that convincing, looks pretty leafy trim for me. And using two panels with real consumption of 65w/pcs, I´m seeing only ~1.2gpw. Not that impressive.
'only' 1.2 gpw??? i'd say that is very respectable. remember that HID growers tend to use the quoted watt consumption for their calculations
so i get say 10 oz from under my 250 hps. that works out as 1.12 gpw.... but really a 250 uses 300 watts or more so the actual figure is 0.93 gpw.
for LED figures based on the actual power draw of the unit, 1.2 is a pretty high yield that most people would be very happy with including myself.
what do you get ??
VG
on the lumibar thing, the more i use LED the more i want the diodes to be as evenly spaced over my grow as possible rather than coming from a big bunch in the middle... so i see that bars or small units - or better still custom/home made ones - are the future.
HGL also only do a 4ft and ive wondered why they dont do 2ft ones as well - which i reckon would be very popular and more versatile for smaller grows.
VG
HGL also only do a 4ft and ive wondered why they dont do 2ft ones as well - which i reckon would be very popular and more versatile for smaller grows.
VG
Sorry, didn´t mean to sound offensive or anything. I was just expecting more from a panel using cree emitters, as cheaper chinese leds can do the same. I guess they are from the lower end of the bins, considering the price of the whole panel.
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Now that I thought more about it, the yield per area is pretty high. That would mean over 600 grams from a squaremeter, which is nothing to sneeze at. Of course its always easier to bumb the gpw with a lower yield/area and light intensity, as MrX with 160w/240g/squaremeter.
I agree completely. I think that about 4 of the Lumibars in, say, a 5'x5' tent would be hard to beat. Spreading the light from multiple sources over the entire grow is hard to beat.
oneshot
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Yep! It's why I am switching to 3 60x3w light bars for the next round.
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thx 4 all the info and i know very little about led's but none are on your list.
im wondering if you have ran across any marine led's (lumishore, abyss technology, ocean led) used on docks and boats. some of these are rated for underwater use and should be a quality built led due to their target market.
i think i want to start to add led's and eventually go all led's as my budget allows. i need to replace my 1200w of hps for my tent.
thx 4 all the info and i know very little about led's but none are on your list.
im wondering if you have ran across any marine led's (lumishore, abyss technology, ocean led) used on docks and boats. some of these are rated for underwater use and should be a quality built led due to their target market.
i think i want to start to add led's and eventually go all led's as my budget allows. i need to replace my 1200w of hps for my tent.
i have no idea about the marine leds, but they are worth looking into... no doubt they are quality built to survive in that environment, but the key is what light spectrum are they emitting... plant growth requires specific ranges,
i'll try to check those when time permits...
welthink also does a 40" bar array...
EDIT: the TI Smartbar also fits the bill for a bar array. these are designed to be daisy chained also...
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oneshot
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seems that aquarium/marine leds are oriented towards the blue end of spectrum, usually having white and blue leds in them. while nicely built, not the best option for growing.
i still can't get the reps to tell me they even have 4G lights for growing...
if you have all the pricing for 4G will you PM me? i will add the 4G info to my charts...
