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Now they are pully the weed card. Pathetic

Marijuana is just the vehicle. They'll use it as proxy to reveal what sort of character the Martin boy was. He'll be cast as a rebellious adolescent with tendencies toward violence and disrespect.

People will say none of what he did in the past is neither here nor there. However, if he did happen to be a confrontational person...it has to be a thing taken into account as we connect the dots to the final outcome of that evening.

Would a respectful, non-aggressive kid, never involved in any sort of violent altercation...been physically confrontational?

Putting that aside for a moment...I now have to weigh the character of the parents. The mother in particular, who the cynic in me predicted last week would make a move to cash in on her son's death...Mother Seeks Trayvon Martin Trademarks http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/trayvon-martin-trademarks-769123

On this, I'm short on benefit of the doubt as I've seen people do it before. They lose a relative...make a big public showing of being heart broken and distraught...all the while, with dollar signs on the brain.

The Martins had ample time to seek justice...but they didn't. Only when the possibility of exploitation was at hand, did they suddenly become righteous parents in want of justice aka a pay day.

For now, I don't want to believe it. But again...I've seen people do it before. And if true...all sympathies for the Martins will be used up the minute they cash in.
 
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Hash Zeppelin, you're right that shit makes no sense and you can see it's made up. Like you stated why would someone do what they can to avoid someone then come up behind them and start a fight when they're near the place they are going to?.

The fact that people believe these lies that keep coming out is sad and it's sad how much lies police tell. REMEMBER THESE STORIES THAT KEEP COMING OUT ARE FROM THE SAME POLICE THAT HELPED THIS PROBLEM BECOME WHAT IT IS NOT WITNESSES, BESIDES THAT ANONYMOUS "JOHN" GUY WHO MAY HAVE BEEN A MADE UP POLICE LIE ALSO.

Everything that is contrary to what we heard on the 911 tapes, using common sense and from witnesses have all came form the police. This alone should tell you something is not right.
 

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He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.

when the other side is digging up shit like this it's because they're in a rather indefensible position to begin with, it makes them look MORE suspect slinging this shit.

btw, it was either an empty baggie or a baggie of marijuana it CAN'T be both, only in the case of a black student would the 'zero tolerance' rule be put into effect when they actually had 'zero evidence', if it were a white student he'd have been given a pass and a stern warning along w/that wink n' a nod.......
 

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What do you all think of this?

Trayvon Martin's mom files trademark papers
SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — The mother of slain Florida teenager Trayvon Martin has filed papers seeking to trademark two slogans based on his name.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office filings by Sybrina Fulton are for the sayings "I Am Trayvon" and "Justice For Trayvon." The applications were filed last week.

The applications say the trademarks could be used for such things as DVDs and CDs. Attorneys who filed the papers did not immediately respond Monday to emails seeking comment.
 

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^this is ok. That way they can control the image of their son and protect his name from slander after death. also if they become millionaires then good. their kid was murdered. something has to go their fucking way.
 

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^this is ok. That way they can control the image of their son and protect his name from slander after death. also if they become millionaires then good. their kid was murdered. something has to go their fucking way.

Trademarks do no such thing. They only serve to...capitalize financially.

Why does something have to go their way? Too many people, lose loved ones to an endless amounts of circumstance, and nothing goes their way.

The cosmos is cold that way.

In the spirit of optimism...lets go ahead and hope something good comes from, what is still, just another statistic. And by good...I mean, for the sake of society. Not anyone's financial gain.
 

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Hash Zeppelin, you're right that shit makes no sense and you can see it's made up. Like you stated why would someone do what they can to avoid someone then come up behind them and start a fight when they're near the place they are going to?.

The fact that people believe these lies that keep coming out is sad and it's sad how much lies police tell. REMEMBER THESE STORIES THAT KEEP COMING OUT ARE FROM THE SAME POLICE THAT HELPED THIS PROBLEM BECOME WHAT IT IS NOT WITNESSES, BESIDES THAT ANONYMOUS "JOHN" GUY WHO MAY HAVE BEEN A MADE UP POLICE LIE ALSO.

Everything that is contrary to what we heard on the 911 tapes, using common sense and from witnesses have all came form the police. This alone should tell you something is not right.

the fact that people believe it does not prove but suggest they are subconsciously racist. I think a lot of the racism these days is just subconsciousness. These people don't hate but they are biased against certain races. Something just makes them "uncomfortable." Aka scared of the black guy on the subway for no damn logical reason. Most of this has to do with how they were raised. I was born in the south but raised by people that are educated and not racist. However as I was growing up I still had to learn to listen to my self and realize when I was saying something ignorant or being biased. So I thought of things from different view points and would interchanged a race or sex or sexuality with straight white girl. Like if that were a 17 year old white girl name Trish Martin and not a 17 year old black Kid named Treyvon Martin, would Zimmerman even look twice at her unless she had a some nice T&A. I bet $100,000 that I certainly don't have that zimmerman would not have thought twice about her presence. Even if she was standing there smoking a joint. subconsciously Hippy chick ok. Black kid in hoodie, evil. That is how you know for sure race was a major part of the motive.

Trademarks do no such thing. They only serve to...capitalize financially.

Why does something have to go their way? Too many people, lose loved ones to an endless amounts of circumstance, and nothing goes their way.

The cosmos is cold that way.

In the spirit of optimism...lets go ahead and hope something good comes from, what is still, just another statistic. And by good...I mean, for the sake of society. Not anyone's financial gain.

I just think the whole thing is a distraction from the crime. who really gives two fucks if they make money or not. This whole nation was built on profiting from death of the Native Americans. There is no moral high ground any of us can take hear. Go research Palm oil products jesus fucking christ. research nike, apple, and microsoft factories. Look at the entire continent of africa. Look at the drug war. The prison system too. Look at the environment We all profit directly from death of humans and animals.
 

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the fact that people believe it does not prove but suggest they are subconsciously racist. I think a lot of the racism these days is just subconsciousness.


Horseshit. That is exactly the same line of thinking that says that if you oppose Obama, you are racist. How about if you just think that he is doing a miserable job?
 

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From what I've read, being young and black are pretty much illegal in quite a few places in the Southern U.S..
Not true, so stop.

Also, being black while driving tends to be the cause of a number of traffic and drug violations.
Haha, I've been pulled over in my town by white cops for doing nothing, said they couldn't read our license plates(big lie). Everyone in car was white. White girlfriend was also pulled(same town) by cops for doing nothing... shined flashlights in her son's eyes, etc. She's white and so is her son. Lets stop pretending shotty police work and infringing on our Constitutionally protected Civil Rights are only the work of white police vs black citizens... it's simply not true.

If rich, conservative white males make the laws and own the politics, then rampant racism and misogyny will be the rule, rather than the exception.
That's really just not true but you're entitled to your opinion
 

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You make Best point yet snoop. doesn't matter the color of the kid. murder is murder, and that was clearly murder.

and yes mpd he should get a trail for sure.


Lets me agree with you that I suspect that under the law this is some kind of murder, perhaps a lesser charge of manslaughter.

However, it's unclear what started the violence. I imagine if I were Travon and someone pulled a gun on me at close range I'd run assholes and elbows. But right now we don't know when, and why, the gun was introduced or if it was how Travon reacted.

This Orlando Sentinel article corroborates Zimmerman's account that he was attacked but doesn't give actual witnesses or quotes from the eyewitnesses the police must claim exist. Wonder if they are being kept quiet for now?

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...t-20120326_1_miami-schools-civil-rights-punch

I'm of the belief a fight started- could have been that Travon did initiate it- but that at the time Travon was shot Zimmerman was no longer threatened enough to use deadly force. But I can't prove that. If there really were eyewitnesses that saw Travon attack Zimmerman then we should also, eventually, hear testimony they were watching at the time the fatal shot was fired. That's what I'm waiting for. The lady that says she heard it happen is compelling and sort of substantiates my earlier belief that Travon didn't have to die, that Zimmerman probably was angry after the assault. But I can't prove that and realize it is possible that Zimmerman was acting in pure self defense, though I tend to doubt it.

I also don't believe Zimmerman used a racial slur as reported and that it's not clear from the 911 he did. Perhaps you have a link to a recording that is actually clear? So far I have not listened to one that would allow me to conclude Zimmerman said anything "racial".

To me this is all being blown way out of proportion considering this country's tolerance of racist groups like the Black Panthers and La Raza.
 

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Horseshit. That is exactly the same line of thinking that says that if you oppose Obama, you are racist. How about if you just think that he is doing a miserable job?

No I oppose Obama for his political views. So do lots of black people. It is not the same at all. I said if you can not come up with a logical reason and you just feel uncomfortable and you don't know why, than it could be possible subconscious racism.

That is nothing close to "if you don't like Obama for any reason then you are racist."

Have you seen the amount of threads I have started hear calling out President Obama on Bull shit?

the fact that people believe it does not prove but suggest they are subconsciously racist. I think a lot of the racism these days is just subconsciousness. These people don't hate but they are biased against certain races. Something just makes them "uncomfortable." Aka scared of the black guy on the subway for no damn logical reason. Most of this has to do with how they were raised. I was born in the south but raised by people that are educated and not racist. However as I was growing up I still had to learn to listen to my self and realize when I was saying something ignorant or being biased. So I thought of things from different view points and would interchanged a race or sex or sexuality with straight white girl. Like if that were a 17 year old white girl name Trish Martin and not a 17 year old black Kid named Treyvon Martin, would Zimmerman even look twice at her unless she had a some nice T&A. I bet $100,000 that I certainly don't have that zimmerman would not have thought twice about her presence. Even if she was standing there smoking a joint. subconsciously Hippy chick ok. Black kid in hoodie, evil. That is how you know for sure race was a major part of the motive.

^see. so stop twisting my words fox news :smoke out:
 

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No I oppose Obama for his political views. So do lots of black people. It is not the same at all. I said if you can not come up with a logical reason and you just feel uncomfortable and you don't know why, than it could be possible subconscious racism.

That is nothing close to "if you don't like Obama for any reason then you are racist."

Have you seen the amount of threads I have started hear calling out President Obama on Bull shit?



^see. so stop twisting my words fox news


Clutching at straws to try and categorize people's motivations on a subconscious level is no different, in my view, than racism. It is still trying to pigeonhole someone based on groundless assumptions. Your personal views towards Obama are irrelevant - you are being judgmental based on fantasy. Doesn't sound a whole lot different to me than what you are condemning.
 

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Trayvon Martin's mom files trademark papers.

Hahaha..What a Retard.Hope it's denied.

Listening to her older peers like that is going to be helpful.

Like a new law...You push the race card..You're going to jail.And fined.Then sued.This stuff has to stop.The parents should go to jail.

Getting Sharpton to help out and releasing this crap
(rumor) to the press should put him in Jail.

Like a lawyer trying to sue someone for something really stupid and THAT got voted into Law and THAT Lawyer and plaintiff HAS to pay court cost and whatever the judge feels fit to charge.
 

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the fact that people believe it does not prove but suggest they are subconsciously racist. I think a lot of the racism these days is just subconsciousness. These people don't hate but they are biased against certain races. Something just makes them "uncomfortable." Aka scared of the black guy on the subway for no damn logical reason.

So much wrong with the way you think. You do realize a "white" person is many times more likely to be a victim from a black person than white, right? Sorry if that fact hurts but it's true. So if I were the only white person on a subway downtown Atlanta at night would it be so blatantly racist of me to at least understand that I might need to be a little careful when and where I get off the train and perhaps who follows me off? I dunno, just asking. The same of course is true of a black person perhaps more likely to be a victim from a black person. If they acknowledge that, are they racist as well against black people? You come across as naive, unfair, and unrealistic.

From all your posts on this unfortunate situation it seems you believe white people are the only racists. That line of thinking is also naive, unfair, and just plain wrong on every level. This country is becoming overrun with racists while the white population, as a percentage, is declining. Racism is running this country down, fast... and it's not white racism.
 

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i am tired of people pulling the race card.i have met more racist blacks than whites in this day and age. i had quite a few black friends once and when they thought i wasnt listening they always said racist shit about white people. in my opinion african americans look for any reason to raise hell. soon they will be burning their own neighborhoods again if this guy dont go to death row. i am 100 percent portuguese but look sort of white
 
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So much wrong with the way you think. You do realize a "white" person is many times more likely to be a victim from a black person than white, right? Sorry if that fact hurts but it's true. So if I were the only white person on a subway downtown Atlanta at night would it be so blatantly racist of me to at least understand that I might need to be a little careful when and where I get off the train and perhaps who follows me off? I dunno, just asking. The same of course is true of a black person perhaps more likely to be a victim from a black person. If they acknowledge that, are they racist as well against black people? You come across as naive, unfair, and unrealistic.

From all your posts on this unfortunate situation it seems you believe white people are the only racists. That line of thinking is also naive, unfair, and just plain wrong on every level. This country is becoming overrun with racists while the white population, as a percentage, is declining. Racism is running this country down, fast... and it's not white racism.

If you think white racism isn't killing this country you're naive because it's the prison system that is really killing this country and most of the prisoners are there for drugs & they happen to be black & latin which is because they are more likely to be sentenced which is because there will be less outcry from the public. Look at NYC it has the highest arrest for marijuana and most of the stop & frisk are for blacks & latins yet whites use it as much if not more than both groups so why are they less of the arrest & the stop and frisk. If you don't see a problem there than I don't know what to tell you.
 

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this thread seems to be heading to the area where people get the hammer...

exit stage left ----------->
 

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"Stand your Ground Law" T-shirts for sale

There is only a reason why they have a "Stand your Ground Law" In that County...Too many crimes being committed and people being assaulted protecting what's theirs.Must have been in the hundreds of folks standing their ground and being punched in the face and slammed into the ground and whatnot then the suspect running away so no one gets caught."I wasn't there"

The police must have SEEN this HUNDREDS of times and FOLKS ARE FED up With IT.

So it's a Law Now.
 
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i am tired of people pulling the race card.i have met more racist blacks than whites in this day and age. i had quite a few black friends once and when they thought i wasnt listening they always said racist shit about white people. in my opinion african americans look for any reason to raise hell. soon they will be burning their own neighborhoods again if this guy dont go to death row. i am 100 percent portuguese but look sort of white

I agree with you there are a lot of prejudice blacks, not racist because to be a racist means you have power. BUT I disagree that there are more "racist" blacks than white, it's just that the racist blacks are in your face about it and the whites are more subtle about it and stab you in the back which is just as bad. Both groups need to to talk to each other as to why we feel the way we do and deal with our issues then see a common connection to establish peace or another group can use it to tear this country down by dividing us because a house divide will soon fall and our house is starting to crumble. This is the time we come together and fix it or else we can forget being a country that we all hoped to see when we were younger. This is why it's important for the subcultures to do this because the squares are definitely not going to do it because they are too scared. It's up to US to try to fix this problem
 

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If you think white racism isn't killing this country you're naive because it's the prison system that is really killing this country and most of the prisoners are there for drugs & they happen to be black & latin which is because they are more likely to be sentenced which is because there will be less outcry from the public.

Look at NYC it has the highest arrest for marijuana and most of the stop & frisk are for blacks & latins yet whites use it as much if not more than both groups so why are they less of the arrest & the stop and frisk. If you don't see a problem there than I don't know what to tell you.
I would probably not be searched in NYC because I wouldn't look like I was committing any crime. Absent any real statistics or facts about a significant amount of these supposed unwarranted searches I'd say this is just a theory you have. If you could prove to me unwarranted searches were largely by white cops vs blacks/hispanics we might be on to something. But I would suggest that if we look at the percentage of white/black/hispanic police it's pretty fairly distributed. Are you suggesting black/hispanic cops don't search blacks and Hispanics? Further, are you suggesting black/hispanic cops don't search white people?

Perhaps you're confusing racism with prison lobbies that seem to force the state's hands to incarcerate people? No doubt those laws need to change but I would be it's not racism, but god damn fucking greed and proof that this country is being bought and sold(for a song) by special interests. Seriously, we are literally being sold down the drain.

Illegal Immigration, or tolerance of it, is racist. If you sneak into this country from Mexico you get a pass, access to our healthcare, and benefits. If you're a black man from Jamaica and do it the honest way we kick you out when your visa expires. What a joke.
 
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