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draco

i remember Kent State. killing four students sure added oxygen to the anti war movement.

i'll bet the desert already has odds on the date of the first killing of protesters... seems inevitable. sooner i'm afraid than later.

that vid of macing the sitters is but foreplay. the pigs were confused then - they won't be for much longer.
 

Hydro-Soil

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Aristan said:
even if these people are breaking some laws regarding where they are allowed to stand and protest, I cant figure what cop would justify that to inflicting pain unto them.

Because of this statement here:

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Cops look a little scared shitless. All it would take is a bullrush and the cops would be fucked...

Don't think the police aren't aware... This govt is all about control... 6 million laws, by-laws, regulations, rules and bullshit that allow them to fine the shit out of you.... or keep their union going by having to keep you jailed.

It's not about right or wrong.... to them. It's about staying in power. If truth had anything to do with things... cannabis would still be free from all restrictions. Period.

Stay Safe!
 

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I live in a TINY little town... in a TINY little county.

We have a shit-ton of cops. Programmed, getstapo cops. I have it on audio-tape that they're educated-retarded. Will tell you straight up that they follow orders... not their oath... so they can keep getting paid. Sound a lot like the SS? Pretty damn close.

What would you say about someone that has no problem locking you in a cage (at WHAT ridiculous pricing) for a $35 violation? That's your local PD. They actually killed the tourism in this town.... used to be a few events each year with 4K people or more.... now folks won't show up because they have no interest in paying a 26 in a 25 speeding ticket. Would you? ROTFL!

You think you're in the right? They have the guns, buddy. Doesn't matter if they're right, wrong or indifferent... you'll spend the next 4 years wasting your life trying to get the justice system to see that they were wrong. Good luck.
 

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UC Davis Pepper Spray Incident Prompts Suspension Of Officers

By Jason Dearen, Associated Press
First Posted: 11/20/11 05:03 PM ET Updated: 11/20/11 05:12 PM ET

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Two University of California, Davis police officers involved in the pepper spraying of seated protesters were placed on administrative leave Sunday, as the school's chancellor accelerated an investigation of the incident and made plans to meet with protesters amid calls for her resignation.

UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi said she has been inundated with reaction from alumni, staff, students and faculty over the incident Friday in which a riot gear-clad officer fires pepper spray on a line of sitting demonstrators. The protesters flinch and cover their faces but remain passive with their arms interlocked as onlookers shriek and scream out for the officer to stop.

The officers placed on leave have not been identified. In a news release, the university said, "Videos taken during Friday's arrests showed that the two officers used pepper spray on peacefully seated students."

The faculty association on Saturday called for Katehi's resignation after video of the incident was circulated widely on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter on Saturday, saying in a letter there had been a "gross failure of leadership."

Katehi has resisted calls for her to quit, vowing instead to rigorously investigate the incident during which 10 protesters were arrested.

"I am deeply saddened that this happened on our campus, and as chancellor, I take full responsibility for the incident," Katehi said in a statement Sunday. "However, I pledge to take the actions needed to ensure that this does not happen again. I feel very sorry for the harm our students were subjected to and I vow to work tirelessly to make the campus a more welcoming and safe place."

Katehi also set a 30-day deadline for a task force investigating the incident to issue its report. The task force will be comprised of students, staff and faculty, Katehi said, and will be chosen this week.

She plans to meet with demonstrators Monday at their general assembly, said her spokeswoman, Claudia Morain.

The protest was held in support of the overall Occupy Wall Street movement and in solidarity with protesters at the University of California, Berkeley who were jabbed by police with batons on Nov. 9.

As the video spread online and on television of an officer blasting pepper spray into the faces of seated protesters, outrage came quickly -- followed almost as quickly by defense from police.

However, a law enforcement official who watched the clip called the use of force "fairly standard police procedure."

Charles J. Kelly, a former Baltimore Police Department lieutenant who wrote the department's use of force guidelines, said pepper spray is a "compliance tool" that can be used on subjects who do not resist, and is preferable to simply lifting protesters.

"When you start picking up human bodies, you risk hurting them," Kelly said. "Bodies don't have handles on them."

After reviewing the video, Kelly said he observed at least two cases of "active resistance" from protesters. In one instance, a woman pulls her arm back from an officer. In the second instance, a protester curls into a ball. Each of those actions could have warranted more force, including baton strikes and pressure-point techniques.

"What I'm looking at is fairly standard police procedure," Kelly said.
Images of police actions have served to galvanize support during the Occupy Wall Street movement, from the clash between protesters and police in Oakland last month that left an Iraq War veteran with serious injuries to more recent skirmishes in New York City, San Diego, Denver and Portland, Ore.

Some of the most notorious instances went viral online, including the use of pepper spray on an 84-year-old activist in Seattle and a group of women in New York. Seattle's mayor apologized to the activist, and the New York Police Department official shown using pepper spray on the group of women lost 10 vacation days after an internal review.

In the video of the UC Davis protest, the officer, a member of the university police force, displays a bottle before spraying its contents in a sweeping motion while walking back and forth in front of the demonstrators. Most of the protesters have their heads down, but several were hit directly in the face.

Some members of a crowd gathered at the scene scream and cry out. The crowd then chants, "Shame on You," as the protesters on the ground are led away. The officers retreat minutes later with helmets on and batons drawn.

Nine students hit by pepper spray were treated at the scene, two were taken to hospitals and later released, university officials said.
UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza has said the decision to use pepper spray was made at the scene.

"The students had encircled the officers," she said Saturday. "They needed to exit. They were looking to leave but were unable to get out."

Katehi said the university is challenged by its capacity to balance freedom of expression with the need to feel safe.

"These past few days our campus has been confronted with serious questions which will challenge us for many months and years to come," Katehi said.
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Associated Press reporters Sudhin Thanawala in San Francisco, Nigel Duara in Portland, Ore., and Meghan Barr in New York City contributed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...ray-inc_n_1104104.html?ref=occupy-wall-street
 

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The fucking pigs name is Lt. John Pike




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disgusting.

"fairly standard police procedure." well, maybe we need to change standard procedure of the police.

it's fucking obvious that the vast majority of the general public does not condone this kind of behavior from our police force.

FUCK YOU to all the testosterone enraged police officers who would try to defend this kind of action, you will be the first to get eaten. pepper spraying an 80 year old woman? have you no shame? i would love to get on a plane and knock on your fucking door and pepper spray ur face, along with your disgusting wife and the mother that brought you into this world.

how is it that police officers do a job they dont believe in or have the slightest clue what their objective is? have they no morals, values or sense of right and wrong? isnt there a psych profile for this shit?

ANGRY NOW.
 
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juicepuddle

I still believe staying peaceful against these lethal pigs is stupid... they realize no one gives a fuck and nothing going to happen hahah, the way that guy sprays them is so chill / nonchalant, he knows no one will fight him back anywhere hahahah
 

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UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza said:
the decision to use pepper spray was made at the scene.

"The students had encircled the officers," she said Saturday. "They needed to exit. They were looking to leave but were unable to get out."

Umm.... what? Is this quote related to this picture or is she talking about some other event??
 
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Charles J. Kelly, a former Baltimore Police Department lieutenant who wrote the department's use of force guidelines, said pepper spray is a "compliance tool" that can be used on subjects who do not resist, and is preferable to simply lifting protesters.

"When you start picking up human bodies, you risk hurting them," Kelly said. "Bodies don't have handles on them."


Yeah, and ice cream don't have bones. I mean, does the guy actually think people believe bullshit like that?
 

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http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/nov2011/toro-n21.shtml

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Crackdown on Occupy Canada encampments
By Carl Bronski
21 November 2011



About 2,000 supporters of the Occupy Wall Street movement in Toronto marched from the protesters’ encampment in St. James Park to City Hall on Saturday. The demonstration was in response to efforts currently underway by the administration of right-wing mayor Rob Ford to evict several hundred people occupying the park. Ford has already garnered significant opposition from working people in Toronto for his agenda of privatizations, wholesale layoffs and massive cuts to social services.

Protesters in the crowd were quick to link these attacks with the move to curtail the democratic rights of the occupiers. Despite a “no politics” mantra promulgated by elements within the Occupy movement, the possibility of occupying threatened libraries, public housing units and workplaces was being raised on the march by a section of community activists and workers.

The “Evict Rob Ford” march comes on the heels of a concerted effort by municipal officials to shut down Occupy encampments across Canada. In the previous 10 days, police have moved in to evict protesters in Regina and Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, London, Ontario, and in Halifax, Nova Scotia, where 14 arrests were made. Police were poised Sunday night to remove scores of demonstrators in Edmonton, Alberta. In Victoria and Vancouver, British Columbia, orders enabling evictions in the coming week have been issued by the provincial court.

In Toronto, home of one of the largest encampments—about one hundred tents have been pitched in St. James Park—Ford initially moved to mobilize police for a mass eviction to occur last Tuesday night. But protesters succeeded in obtaining a “stay” to the city’s clearance order until a hearing could be held on Friday.

Arguments were to be heard before Superior Court Justice David Brown—a former Bay Street corporate lawyer and advocate for conservative social causes—with a verdict promised for the following day. However, in the wake of renewed resistance to police attacks on their right to protest in New York City and several other jurisdictions, and cognizant of the looming Toronto demonstration, Brown on Friday deferred delivery of his judgment until Monday morning.

Brown is no stranger to questions involving the containment of civil protest. Prior to the G20 meetings held in Toronto in June 2010—which resulted in the deployment of tear gas, pepper spray and plastic bullets, the brutalization of hundreds of demonstrators and 1,200 arrests—Brown had ruled that the police had every right to employ the use of dangerous and disruptive sound canons on the streets of Toronto for “communication purposes.”

Susan Ursel, the lawyer representing the Occupy protesters in Superior Court, argued that the right to camp indefinitely to “redress inequalities in society” is protected by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This right to protest supersedes the demand by city authorities to enforce bylaws prohibiting overnight camping in municipal parks that they contend restricts the rights of others to use the facility.

The encampment tents, argued Ursel, were the “physical manifestation of the exercise of conscience.” In his questioning of Ursel, Brown appeared unsympathetic to her arguments. “Every protest group all of a sudden has its own park,” he said. “At the end of the day, where do I ride my bike?”

A World Socialist Web Site leaflet headlined “The Crackdown on the Occupy Movement and the Criminalization of Dissent” was circulated at the Toronto march. It argued that “the moves to shut down the Occupy movement are a clear demonstration of the indissoluble link between the fight for the social rights of working people and the defense of democratic rights. The expression of social and political opposition is increasingly incompatible with the structure of society in which a tiny financial aristocracy has enriched itself through the impoverishment of the vast majority.”

The leaflet continues, “The past decade has seen a steady erosion of democracy, particularly in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks of September 11. The most basic constitutional freedoms have been undermined as the government has asserted the power to spy on the population, arrest and detain people without charge, and carry out raids on political groups on the flimsiest of grounds. This has been accompanied by a vast expansion of the military-police-intelligence apparatus…

“The only social force capable of leading the fight against the political dominance of the financial elite and defending democratic rights is the working class. The fight against social inequality can find genuine expression only as an independent political movement of the working class that has as its aim the establishment of a workers government and the transformation of the economic system in the interests of social need rather than private profit—that is, on the basis of socialism.”

Copyright © 1998-2011 World Socialist Web Site - All rights reserved
 

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I still believe staying peaceful against these lethal pigs is stupid... they realize no one gives a fuck and nothing going to happen hahah, the way that guy sprays them is so chill / nonchalant, he knows no one will fight him back anywhere hahahah

Violence will only get Marshal Law; which is the reason for the police assaults.

They want somebody to come in with an assault rifle and take down a dozen in blue............

if a protestor doesn't oblige soon; they'll pull a false flag (cia) and detonate a car bomb or rooftop assassin on police to implement their plan.
 

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Redbudduckfoot said:
how is it that police officers do a job they dont believe in or have the slightest clue what their objective is? have they no morals, values or sense of right and wrong? isnt there a psych profile for this shit?

Yes... there's a profile for it. If you don't fit it, they don't hire you. Around here they've hired a lot of ex gang members and there are a few really sadistic bastards in the bunch.


What most of them don't realize is that when this govt is out.... they're not going to find any help from their neighbors. They've shown their true colors behind their badge and gun around here.

Stay Safe!

p.s. Remember to buy your ammo in small lots.... the KGB *ahem* sorry... The DHS is watching you!
 

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in this clip from BBC Newsnight, Boing Boing pal Laurie Penny (who's in NYC covering the Occupy demonstrations) takes on a former Goldman-Sachs partner who tries to concern-troll the #OWS movement, saying that they're flacid, decentralized, and have the wrong target, because the problem isn't banks, it's those damned liberal governments who incurred huge debts with their deuced social spending. Laurie wipes up the floor with the bloated plutocrat, without breaking a sweat.



they seem like all foreigners, should worry bout their own country



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i cant stand coming on here i get shaky everytime i watch videos of police brutality...

im just glad those kids keep their cool i don't know that i could...
 
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i sincerely hope that Katehi loses her job over this. one of her most important duties is the safety of the students.

if i made a mistake of that magnitude, i would and SHOULD be fired.

we need push every issue and never give an inch.
 

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It is not about "Demands"...or "Organization"...it is about most of America being tired of the Status Quo-- It is not up to "Us"..to figure out the answers...just to show we are tired of the Problem!! Politicians are Elected, and paid a lot of $$ ...because they SAY they know how to make this Country run smoothly...time to show it!!
 
Why do the occupiers want to end private land ownership and end home schooling? What they dont want to own land? they want the Government to own everything? And what they want their children indoctrinated by the government as well? I don't get these 2 requests. And wealthy people should pay up to 90% income tax? wtf? thats does not seem fair.
 
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