Occupy Wall Street: Not on major media but worth watching!

[bombadil.360]

people, just face the reality, the U.S and the world at large is in the shape it currently is becuase the majority of people have chosen to be willfully ignorant.

there's a definition of Culture that flies over most peoples' head:

culture is pain, lets say, you're walking in the midst of a big avenue, full of people, market-places, residences; and suddenly, you get the urge to take a big shit; but there are no readily available bathrooms for you to quench your biological needs, and so you have two choices: you go on with the pain of holding all that shit inside so as to not damage the surroundings for everyone else with your shit, or you choose to not take on the pain and shit right there on the side-walk.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Tea Party Members Meet With Occupy Memphis, Praise Efforts Of Protesters

By ADRIAN SAINZ 11/18/11 05:44 AM ET

MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- Occupy Memphis member Mallory Pope had just finished telling a group of about 75 tea party followers Thursday night that politicians should not allow themselves to be influenced by lobbyists and unions when she received an unexpected invitation.

"It sounds to me that y'all ought to be joining us," said Jerry Rains, a 64-year-old computer programmer and tea party member. "You have a lot of the same goals we have, which is to take our country back."

Pope and fellow Occupy Memphis protester Tristan Tran had a lively, sometimes strained and confrontational, but mostly civil discussion with members of the Mid-South Tea Party at a municipal meeting hall outside Memphis.

The factions saw eye-to-eye on some issues and clashed on others. And, while the young speakers didn't change many minds, they did earn praise from the tea party members for their passion, honesty and courage.

The 21-year-old University of Memphis students had been invited by the tea party group to talk about the goals of the Occupy movement. The invitation was extended after a discussion between members of both groups on the tea party's website, meeting organizer Jim Tomasik said.

Occupy Memphis set up camp last month at Civic Center Plaza in downtown Memphis, within view of City Hall and federal and county government buildings. Their numbers have ranged from a dozen protesters to 100 or more, depending on the time of day.

They have had no clashes with police and city officials have said they will not evict the protesters as long as they remain peaceful.

Tea party members said before the meeting that they didn't know what to expect, and that most of what they know about the Occupy Wall Street movement and its offshoots were from confrontations with police in New York and Oakland, Calif. Some said they were confused about the purpose of the Occupy movement because it has no leader and no consistent list of goals promoted by every Occupy group.

Almost every chair in the white-walled meeting room was taken. Pope's speech and a question-and-answer period were supposed to last about a half-hour – they went for nearly two hours.

Pope gave a rundown of some of the goals of Occupy Memphis and some of her individual beliefs as well, including that Wall Street executives "gambled with our economy and housing market."

Both Pope and Tran stressed at times during the discussion that they were speaking for themselves and could not speculate on what other members think.

"The Occupy movement has remained adamant about not drafting a list of demands because terrorists make demands, and we're not terrorists," said Pope, a graphic design student. "We shouldn't have to demand a democratic process."

By the end, the Occupy Memphis members and their audience – made up mostly of whites over 40 years old – reached common ground on some issues, such as their perception that the government and politicians no longer listen to and serve the people they represent.

They also found some agreement in their stances against taxpayer-sponsored government bailouts and "crony capitalism," the idea that close ties between lobbyists, businesses, and other self-serving interests can influence government officials and the exercise of capitalism.

"We all want the same form of government, which is one that listens to its constituents," said Tran, a business and American history student who said he served in Iraq in 2009 and 2010 with the Army.

But some disagreements also emerged. Tea party members expressed frustration with big, intrusive government, while the Occupy Memphis speakers opposed what they perceive as the corporate world's manipulative influence on government policy. Some tea party members noted that each of their protests were one-day events and they cleaned up after themselves, while the Occupy movement calls for long-term encampment at sites officials say have become unsanitary.

Tea party members praised themselves for using the power of the vote to bring about the change they desired, and that the Occupy movement won't be successful until it does the same.

During the meeting, a tea party member showed a picture of pro-communist images at the Occupy Memphis movement, drawing shakes of the head and disapproving comments from audience members.

Tensions rose when a third member of the Occupy movement, Karen Seus, was told to sit down and stop speaking because only Tran and Pope were invited to address the meeting.

"Are you trying to divide us now?" Seus said loudly.

But the conflict blew over quickly, Seus was allowed to stand with the college students and she apologized for raising her voice.

Tran found himself on the defense at times, saying he does not approve of the illegal behavior seen at other Occupy sites and denounced the idea that most Occupy protesters are debt-ridden, unemployed troublemakers who don't vote.

"We do not condone violence. We do not condone destruction," Tran said.

Page Gregory, a retiree in his 60s, stood and praised Pope and Tran for having the passion and courage to stand before the tea party group and address its questions.

Then he said the Occupy groups should go home and work within their community to try to bring about change.

"Get people elected," Gregory said.

As the meeting closed, the Occupy Memphis members were inviting tea party members to join them at Civic Center Plaza, and everyone shared chocolate chip cookies.

Pete Dresser, 68 and retired, said the meeting confirmed what he believed about the Occupy movement.

"It's a ramshackle movement that is not organized, not focused and more emotional than purposeful," Dresser said.

Tran said the meeting was productive.

"The discussion and the exchange of ideas and the exchange of approaches, it's fundamental for American people to do that," Tran said. "It's progressive, it's constructive."

 

[Headbandf1]

Police State Photo of the Day: In this striking photo by longtime Oregonian staff photographer Randy L. Rasmussen, an Occupy Portland protester gets a faceful of Mace during yesterday’s local Day of Action demonstration at Pioneer Courthouse Square.

 

[Green lung]

Will you see this on the news?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjnR7xET7Uo

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^Holy Shit! At 7:00 minutes the cops realize they are out numbered big time and the protesters force them to leave.

 

[bombadil.360]

classic! "shame on u shame on u" lol

what's up with the fat cop without helmet with a ridiculous hair cut trying to be all friendly while in the back ground other pigs r physically assaulting students?

 

[Headbandf1]

We need an amendment that when the cops get violent, citizens are free to defend them selfs to the death. Like the axiom no good pig like a dead pig!

 

[greenmatter]

classic! "shame on u shame on u" lol

what's up with the fat cop without helmet with a ridiculous hair cut trying to be all friendly while in the back ground other pigs r physically assaulting students?

they need something to put on the news. barney fife smiles at the camera while andy pepper sprays opi and his friends. i wonder which clip we will get to see on the major news networks?

reality T.V. without the actors acting like there is a camera rolling ..... finally!

reality is a hard thing for LEO to justify ...... the more they fan the flames the better the chances are of the guys who run this cluster fuck paying some attention to what is going on around them

we'll see ........

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

If you're a billionaire and want to pay as little as 1%...

[youtubeif]v=f2Fh-fR9U_Y[/youtubeif]

 

[onegreenday]

"NYPD punches woman in face * at 1:45 of this video, see NYPD punch a female protester in face" -- November 16, 2011

"NYPD Assaults Man & Punches Woman in Face at OWS / Liberty PlazaNow it gets serious. SHARE THIS EVERYWHERE. @ 1:45 of this video a woman brandishing a court order that affirmed the rights of protesters to occupy Liberty Park is punched in the face by NYPD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxR8VHFvsl8 -- November 15, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxR8VHFvsl8

 

[MacGyver420]

 

[greenmatter]

not a good day to be vegan



and no i don't think it's right to pepper spray anyone ....... but that shit IS funny

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

If they're gonna be arrested anyway, why hose em down?

 

[ariston]

this is starting to get out of hand. even if these people are breaking some laws regarding where they are allowed to stand and protest, I cant figure what cop would justify that to inflicting pain unto them.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Sadism.

A judge ruled that police couldn't evict Zuccotti Park protesters but presenting leo a copy of the ruling got an old lady punched in the face.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Lobbying Firm Memo To Advise Wall Street Clients On Occupy Movement

First Posted: 11/18/11 08:58 PM ET Updated: 11/19/11 02:02 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- A lobbying firm has prepared a memo offering advice to its Wall Street clients to help them manage any political fallout from Occupy Wall Street, warning that Republicans may turn on big banks, at least in public, altering the political ground for years to come. It is one of the first clear signs that the movement may be starting to trouble the moneyed elite.

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The memo, first reported by MSNBC's Chris Hayes, host of the show "Up with Chris Hayes," was written by the firm Clark, Lytle, Geduldig, Cranford and addressed to one of its Wall Street clients.
It runs four pages long and is set to be sent on Thanksgiving.

The first two graphs of the memo, provided by MSNBC to The Huffington Post, express angst over the idea that the movement could mean "more than just short-term discomfort for Wall Street firms" and has "the potential to have very long-lasting political, policy and financial impacts on the companies in the center of the bullseye."

The paragraphs read in full:

Leading Democratic party strategists have begun to openly discuss the benefits of embracing the growing and increasingly organized Occupy Wall Street (OWS) movement to prevent Republican gains in Congress and the White House next year. We have seen this process of adopting extreme positions and movements to increase base voter turnout, including in the 2005-2006 immigration debate. This would mean more than just short-term discomfort for Wall Street firms.

If vilifying the leading companies of this sector is allowed to become an unchallenged centerpiece of a coordinated Democratic campaign, it has the potential to have very long-lasting political, policy and financial impacts on the companies in the center of the bullseye. It shouldn't be surprising that the Democratic party or even President Obama's re-election team would campaign against Wall Street in this cycle.

However the bigger concern should be that Republicans will no longer defend Wall Street companies -- and might start running against them too.
​

The lobbying firm, a high-powered shop with an array of clients from across the political spectrum, declined to comment. On its website, the firm notes that it "combines sophisticated high-level strategic thinking with robust ground-level relationships established over decades with key members of Congress and their staff, Administration officials."

Joshua Stephens, who has participated in the occupy movement in New York City, says the memo worries might be misplaced or potentially obsolete. "The danger is not whether or not politicians will defend these institutions. My fear wouldn't be that," he said.

"My fear would be that the politicians that come to their aid will be increasingly irrelevant...That's the real threat and that's where things are going."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...-street_n_1102310.html?ref=occupy-wall-street

 

[Captain Ginyu]

So if protestors sprayed cops with pepper spray that would be beneficial to their health too, wouldn't it? Let's see that happen, fuckin swine!

 

[Grass Lands]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJmmnMkuEM&feature=player_embedded

Cops look a little scared shitless. All it would take is a bullrush and the cops would be fucked...

its just a matter of time before the issues escalate to a point of no return...

Next on the Menu...Soylent Green....

 

[VerdantGreen]

pepper spraying those students is totally unjustifiable - thanks goodness for youtube, that people see the reality of what's going on in a supposedly democratic country.

 

[Dudesome]

No, I dream of you, Dudesome. You're in a silk smoker's jacket, a lovely lady on each knee, determining the next potential gain for your personal salary, shareholders, employees, customers and the public at-large. I just dream you balance perspective, especially if you're big enough buy others' opportunity away from them.

Man, you're a prophet or some woodooshit like that