Flush or Don't Flush... I DARE you to post your ppm's!!

[Hydro-Soil]

Hey All!

That's right... I dare you to post the ppm of your harvest.

You don't flush? I dare you to post your feeding schedule and then the ppm's of your harvest at specific points.

Grab a gallon of reverse osmosis water and test the ppm's of it. (Please make it R/O so all test results are comparable)
Grab a gram of your freshly dried, yet uncured, bud and drop it in a half cup of R/O water and let it soak for 2 hours. Test the ppm's of the water.
Grab a gram of your cured, yet unflushed, bud and repeat the experiment.

Post the results here.

You DO flush? Repeat the same experiment and post the results here.

Please be as detailed as possible about the nutrients you use... the time in the grow you used them, your pH management regimen and the nutrient strengths you used. Basic lights and ventilation information is also helpful.


I'd start the ball rolling but I haven't had a harvest in over a year now.


EDIT: By FLUSH.... I'm talking about giving a plant plain water for 2 weeks. NOT F'NG DROWNING YOUR PLANT! Please stop plant abuse... don't drown your plants. Thanks.


FYI: When you're done soaking that bud.... make sure you dry it out quickly. It'll still be potent enough for meds. (Slow dry = mold)

 

[Avinash.miles]

OK, ill try this one out, im about to harvest, flush is about to begin, so i can cut some nugs of unflushed now and dry them out then compare to the flushed buds when they are dried later....
but like soaking buds in h2o then testing it, is that a real test or what? im all about trying it, just wondering what u r trying to prove or just see peoples results, or just dare or what, but im in i guess cuz i can and it sounds fun

im growing in promix hp with lots and lots of perlite (prolly 60/40 peat to perlite) and the plants im about to harvest started with botanicare pure blend pro bloom as a base and switched to maxi gro at the end (not and ideal transition, but its just what happened this time round) as far as boosts go these were given floralicious bloom, carboload, and a lil touch of some left over house & garden bud xl. and some molasses. I have just given last nutrient feeding , and an initial "flush" of carbs and molasses. so i can cut some now and it is essentially no flush.... is that the idea, and ill tell u the ppm of my nutrient solutions have been steadily around 1400-1600 at their peaks in weeks 456.

whatev all those details, u gotta add a smoke test to this one,
i wonder if anyone but me will chime in on this....

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I'll venture a guess that a plain water period before harvest reduces ppm in your test? I usually feed ~1.3 EC, might have a plain water cycle or three in there somewhere. Two weeks of plain water at the end of the cycles often dwindles to ~.2EC runoff w/o having to flush.

 

[mack 10]

Good idea, But will soaking bud in water really give a good indication of the amount of nutrients left in your bud? i think you need a better method ( but i might be wrong,guru's speak up.) Mack.

 

[dank.frank]

Mack, said it as kindly as possible...you just create this test or...mmm? Post up some valid articles supporting this test as being an accurate method for the desired return data, and I'm down to buy a meter to satisfy your point...as this is really from another existing thread...

I use no pH management strategy. I don't check EC or PPM. I only add water the entire life of the plant...veg and flower...even moms. I can't imagine a cleaner, more natural way.

Legitimize your test and I'll play.


dank.Frank

 

[Ickis]

What you two never heard of water curing? That is what it is based on. Water curing does work as far as curing goes. It just makes the weed brown and crappy looking but very smooth to smoke.

But the original poster was kinda lame bringing this up with no weed to test his idea out first. LOL!

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Legitimize your test and I'll play.

Test? WTF is wrong with you? I'm looking for straight data. Post it or don't.
As long as everyone follows the steps... I'll get useable data out of it. Good enough for me and plenty of other researchers. Actually great data, considering the prohibition environment we have to operate from.

Stay Safe!

 

[geoponics13]

What you two never heard of water curing? That is what it is based on. Water curing does work as far as curing goes. It just makes the weed brown and crappy looking but very smooth to smoke.

But the original poster was kinda lame bringing this up with no weed to test his idea out first. LOL!

dont green = chlorophyll?,and thats wut makes smoke harsh and mgso "water cure should leach salts also but idk if the chlorophyll would read on the ppm/ec meter

 

[Herborizer]

I have found that I can't give plain water only for the last two weeks. I have to taper down. This is because when I get to the point of plain water I get maybe 5 days before everything is falling over completely. I start at 1300 Ppm and then do a week of about 800 ppm, then a week of just water.

Probably has todo with the fact that I use coco + dripclean.

 

[redneck shogun]

Damn you guys really stress out on this shit. I got better things to worry about myself. My shit smokes smooth without a flush or curing. I'm not bragging, just saying.

 

[dank.frank]

Okay, well then share how the data gained is interpreted and what conclusions can be drawn... Thus giving relevance to what is other wise a very open, loosely defined [as in hypothesis] experiment.

Wrong with me? Not sure I understand what gives you cause to ask, but you seem tense.

If asking "why" is deemed an offense, I offer an apology and take my inquisitive mind else where.


dank.Frank

 

[dank.frank]

The OP is not discussing water curing. I know what that is.

For clarity:

Objective - To ascertain the validity of various benefits, namely lower carcinogenic matter when combusted, in respect to different feeding programs and methods of flushing used during production.

Hypothesis - By soaking a dried cannabis sample of a undefined size into a undefined amount of r/o water, then measuring the TDS/EC/PPM of the contaminated water; data represents remaining carcinogenic matter in the sample.

I question if the reading on the meter accurately gives this specific data or if the data is being misinterpreted. To make such a thread and state this experiment as definitive of anything requires, in my opinion, further explanation and backing. Call me what you may.


dank.Frank

 

[Rusty420]

. My shit smokes smooth without a flush or curing. I'm not bragging, just saying.

same, might not be g/watt but smokes like a dream.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

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[Hydro-Soil]

Hypothesis - By soaking a dried cannabis sample of a undefined size into a undefined amount of r/o water.

So... you can't read?

1 gram, half cup of water. Keep the parameters the same.

What's undefined about that? Are you deliberately attempting to be an asshat?



For anyone that cares to post what was asked, thank you.

Stay Safe!

 

[Hammerhead]

I will try this when its time to harvest... I normally dont flush(pour large quantity of water all at once)I just feed PH water for 2 weeks or more..

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

What's wrong with wanting to know your objective? And what's the 'dare' angle?

 

[Avinash.miles]

Objective - To ascertain the validity of various benefits, namely lower carcinogenic matter when combusted, in respect to different feeding programs and methods of flushing used during production.

Hypothesis - By soaking a dried cannabis sample of a undefined size into a undefined amount of r/o water, then measuring the TDS/EC/PPM of the contaminated water; data represents remaining carcinogenic matter in the sample.

I question if the reading on the meter accurately gives this specific data or if the data is being misinterpreted. To make such a thread and state this experiment as definitive of anything requires, in my opinion, further explanation and backing.

Thanks kinda what i was wondering, hydrosoil and danfrank, chill and lets just figure this out,
I still say that the most important is the smoke test of fully dried n cured buds, thats what counts rite? if its enjoyable to the end user (or sellable to the market).

so im gonn do it, cut some unflushed tonight, dry n cure those proper, then cut some finished cured bud dry n cure it, then compare with the water soak and smoke test, is that rite?

 

[Avinash.miles]

exactly

exactly

What's wrong with wanting to know your objective? And what's the 'dare' angle?

exactly

 

[Hammerhead]

I know that there is going to be a PPM reading flush or no flush. I guess you want to see the diferance. Properly flushed buds will still turn the water green.