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supermanlives

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i bet dakota fred finds plenty of gold. unlike the idiots previously there. just goes to show even if you got all the gear its not a guarantee of success
 

ReelBusy1

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makes me wonder how much the producers mess with everyone on the show to create situations.
Thats what happens on these "reality" shows.
And the old man is Dakota Dead to me.
 

Strainhunter

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I don't know why so many of you are picking on Dakota Fred?

Business is business, if you don't pay you don't stay.


Or would you be happy if your lessee did not pay his lease?
And you would not jump on a better opportunity when it shows right? i.e. selling your claim when you have the chance to do so!?

They are ALL in for the money & not for emotions and that's all it is about.
 

NOKUY

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I don't know why so many of you are picking on Dakota Fred?

Business is business, if you don't pay you don't stay.


Or would you be happy if your lessee did not pay his lease?
And you would not jump on a better opportunity when it shows, right i.e. selling your claim when you can!?

They are ALL in for the money & not for emotions and that's all it is about.

altho that's true....fred led them up there, w/out disclosing his plans to boot them off....all while they made preperations to come up and mine...and even let them get the season rolling for him....now that's a shady motherfucker......

....sure business is business, but there is a line u cross when your deliberately fucking w/ other ppls livelihood in such an extreme way...

fred wouldn't give a fuck if his actions caused every one of those families to have to hit the streets w/ will work for food signs...dude is a dick!
 

Strainhunter

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altho that's true....fred led them up there, w/out disclosing his plans to boot them off....all while they made preperations to come up and mine...and even let them get the season rolling for him....now that's a shady motherfucker......

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That's NOT how it went down.

They went up there even though a lease payment already had been skipped.


General lease conditions on mineral rights (such as what the Hoffman crew had) clearly state if you miss on one single payment it means the lease has been broken.
Dakota Fred is not the one who missed his payment, he took advantage of a situation someone else was the cause for. Fred just moved on with his own stuff, you can't blame him for that.
 

NOKUY

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That's NOT how it went down.

They went up there even though a lease payment already had been skipped.


General lease conditions on mineral rights (such as what the Hoffman crew had) clearly state if you miss on one single payment it means the lease has been broken.
Dakota Fred is not the one who missed his payment, he took advantage of a situation someone else was the cause for. Fred just moved on with his own stuff, you can't blame him for that.

yeah it IS how it went down...they were LATE on a payment...not missed....and yeah that does violate the lease agreement, but they were led to believe that it was all good.

..fred even called them before the season knowing what was gonna go down, but told them he'd talk to them when they got up there
 

NOKUY

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in freds defense tho...that's how business is done in alaska...."in person"

...ppl in alaska don't really wanna talk business over the fone to ppl in the lower 48...(sure u can understand why)

he could have said to find another plan, and catch a plane up... we need to have a meeting.....wouldn't have made good tv tho
 

Strainhunter

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yeah it IS how it went down...they were LATE on a payment...not missed....and yeah that does violate the lease agreement, but they were led to believe that it was all good.

..fred even called them before the season knowing what was gonna go down, but told them he'd talk to them when they got up there


No no my friend that's not how it works in the mining industry.

Those general mineral right contracts clearly state you have to make your lease payment ON TIME.

There is no such thing as a "late" payment
(unless agreed up on in an amendment)

If and when a payment has not been made ON TIME the lease IS considered broken.


We are not talking Credit Card payments, car payments etc. where there are conditions such as late payments.
 
Come on guys you know Earl and Fred just used the Hoffman's money to dig the hole for them knowing full well they would be late on the lease payment.

What Fred and Earl did was shady but legal. That's about all there is to it.
 

supermanlives

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. the hoffmans are boneheads i cant believe anyone that stupid could even come up with the cash to mine.total bunch of idiots
 

NOKUY

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Come on guys you know Earl and Fred just used the Hoffman's money to dig the hole for them knowing full well they would be late on the lease payment.

What Fred and Earl did was shady but legal. That's about all there is to it.

yes that is exactly right.

i'm sure earl and fred knew what was there all along, and had this devious plan all along, and i'm sure they were looking at every single letter and punctuation in that lease the whole time they were diggin, just waiting for them to slip....and slip they did.

regardless...earl and fred better watch their back....cuz that kind of shit doesn't get taken lightly

"legally right" does not mean "morally right".....shady is shady and some ppl have means to have some ppl "dealt with" ....especially in the woods

...all i'm saying is that if fred and earl did me like that....the story would not be over, ....and there would be an out of court settlement, and prolly not one regarding gold or money.
 

supermanlives

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if i owned the land i would of been glad to see the hoffmans go. what about the owners percentage? they were clowns making him no money and he aint getting any younger.if they had done more reasearch and studying they would have made money and still be on the site.
 

NOKUY

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head up there for the season nokuy. a guy with dreads in the crew would make things interesting

lol...i'd have to be on my own....i could never live that close to other ppl.

it was funny when they were settin' up their spots for their campers...i said to my wife..."why the fuck are they all parking right next to each other"...i would be as far off into the woods as i could get my rig...and away from everyone.

im sure a dreadie could make it more entertaining ...pretty funny as is tho :wave:
 

Mrs.Babba

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lol...i'd have to be on my own....i could never live that close to other ppl.

it was funny when they were settin' up their spots for their campers...i said to my wife..."why the fuck are they all parking right next to each other"...i would be as far off into the woods as i could get my rig...and away from everyone.

im sure a dreadie could make it more entertaining ...pretty funny as is tho :wave:


How bout a woman?!?!? To tell em what to do and how to do it right!! hhehehe :blowbubbles:
 

Strainhunter

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I can't believe ppl here are naive enough to even remotely think ANYONE in mining is going to be nice @ $1,600/OZ.

It just don't work like that.

And TV is only showing a fragment of what REALLY is going on up there.
 
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At the end of last season . Dakota fred said he intended to work that claim with his OWN crew .

They are all clowns , wouldn't expect anything less then being late on the lease on shooting themselves in the foot......
 
I just don't see how they have money like they do. They seem really dumb but somewhere in life they had to get a few things right to sink 250k into a shot in the dark.
 
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