Butane honey oil for dummies

[Tokingham]

maybe some day you will be more open minded and can learn from those who have already spent much time researching to learn proper information.

first off, its not an opinion that what crackles in oil is water, its based on years of observation and tests by many people. almost every experienced oil maker here knows what the truth is in this matter, and none of them agree with you. Must mean something, probably, you should not have such strong beliefs, then its possible to change to allow new information give you a more accurate representation of reality.

as for assuming, you are classicly guilty here: you said yourself you did not make the oil, and even if you did, there are ways the water can get in invisibly to you. a true statement i can make about this is that every time i make oil i cannot assume there is no water in it, until it has been tested with use. you never know for sure if some got in unless you test after. people who say the oil crackles from water are helping you learn what they already proved to themselves.

water does not purge well out of oil, its stuck in there worse than butane. you have to spot cook it out really hot, if you see a drop, but if it was formed by cold dish use, it would take prolonged heat with it spread thin.

light some pure butane on fire and see for yourself, no crackle or sizzle.

light the bubbles on your plate of oil purging, the bubbles light up with almost 0 sound.

take oil that vapes with no crackle, add some water in it and observe.

How about you do as you say before recomending it to others? OK?

Take some under purged oil and put it on a nail....you'll see the crackle and sizzle. Its the instant super heat that causes this to happen to water and butane.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Most states ethanols are federally regulated, an ATF permit is required to purchase 190- and 200-proof ethanol in most states.

Its not as easy as 'readily available'

Why must you be so argumentative?

Because you are posting bs and misleading noobs!

 

[Tokingham]

bho absorbs moisture from the air. haha, did someone just suggest we are the same person??!!! lmao @ how things go around here... you see why I prefer groups where people use their real names. come on guys, thats not my style at all. haters gonna hate!

dont let them get you down tokingham... more fuel for the fire.

Butane is not hydroscopic, however alcohol is and that is why 200proof is hard to maintain out of a container. its hydroscopic properties make that difficult.

 

[Tokingham]

Because you are posting bs and misleading noobs!

What have I said that will mislead a noob to disaster?

The only thing I have done is said things that contradict your opinion and so you flip the fuck out. nothing I have said will harm a noob.

 

[Gray Wolf]

The MSDS of the (vector)butane used did not say any h2o was in it so there was not water in the tane. the only thing left to sizzle and crackle is butane.

Check the IP's fool then you'll know we are not the same, come on now.

You skipped or just didn't understand my point about dew points and relative humidity bro.

I would like to think it is due to lack of intelligence, but no one could miss as many points as you have as a matter of record and still function in this society, so I've decided that you are doing it on purpose to disrupt this forum.

Did you notice how smoothly things went in your absence and wonder why? Two words, honor and respect!

The honor not to resort to BS to make a point and the respect to not call others by denigrating epithets, when they point out your glaring and risable errors.

"The poorer the product, the harder the sell!"

 

[Gray Wolf]

What have I said that will mislead a noob to disaster?

The only thing I have done is said things that contradict your opinion and so you flip the fuck out. nothing I have said will harm a noob.

Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[Gray Wolf]

just join fbook and friend me. I'll add you to the group, we are way beyond this forum. Then again, we have actual scientists and representatives from the major cannabinoid labs keeping us from bullshitting too much (instead of sam just talking shit even tho he is not a scientist). We are an actual group of professional extract artists making medical marijuana for dispensaries and ourselves, you belong with us. Naturally, there is no trolling/flaming because most of us use our real names and have real careers in this field (no financial modding either). Not taking posts out of our closed group is the only rule (yeah, i'm a pathological rule breaker) but I had to post that one just for you GW because you seemed skeptical of the group's techniques. I heard about you from the group GW...

Cutting to the chase brother PL, this tattered old wolf has been around the barn more than once reaching my simple minded dotage, and it occurs to me that if you really wanted me in your "Artistic" group, you would have already privately invited me, as others have previously done.

What seems more likely to me, is that you are pissed at ICMag for reasons not related to this discussion, and are trying to disrupt and discredit their forum as much as possible.

What I am willing to do, is watch your actions for awhile longer and decide whether I would want to have my name associated with your group of artists. Convince me?

 

[Gray Wolf]

See what I mean? you never gave any example of how I misled a newb you only told me to submit to your dictatorship. I will not.

Truth is shorter than fiction.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Jus' posting to easily retrieve this thread when I get ready to this.

Good idea!

 

[Gray Wolf]

See what I mean? you never gave any example of how I misled a newb you only told me to submit to your dictatorship. I will not.

So does that mean that you won't be trying to convince any of us that you and Pineolene are not one and the same? I see you excluded that part from your response, like any question that you don't want to answer directly?

 

[Hammerhead]

Do not use face book for any reason. This would be a huge security risk. You never want to give out personal info and anyone that asks for it is very questionable. I would stay far far away.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Do not use face book for any reason. This would be a huge security risk. You never want to give out personal info and anyone that asks for it is very questionable. I would stay far far away.

Good point brother HH!

 

[Tokingham]

So does that mean that you won't be trying to convince any of us that you and Pineolene are not one and the same? I see you excluded that part from your response, like any question that you don't want to answer directly?

lol, I am not Pineolene. You are paranoid for thinking I am.

Facebook is rad btw, for many things. I have bought very nice glass there and got custom work from artists. It is private if you know how to be private, i.e. like do not post info you want private, duh.

 

[Hammerhead]

lol face book is not private in any way. If you think your info is secure there you have some serious issues. Cannabis and face book dont mix.

 

[Tokingham]

lol face book is not private in any way. If you think your info is secure there you have some serious issues. Cannabis and face book dont mix.

If you are dumb enough to post personal info that is your fault.

 

[Gray Wolf]

lol, I am not Pineolene. You are paranoid for thinking I am.

Facebook is rad btw, for many things. I have bought very nice glass there and got custom work from artists. It is private if you know how to be private, i.e. like do not post info you want private, duh.

Thanks for the straight answer. I will assign it proper credibility, based on your veracity to date.

If you are not he, are you and Pineolene in cahoots to disrupt this forum?

Thanks for the advice on facebook!

 

[Tokingham]

Thanks for the straight answer. I will assign it proper credibility, based on your veracity to date.

If you are not he, are you and Pineolene in cahoots to disrupt this forum?

Thanks for the advice on facebook!

No I am in cahoots with you to make a profit.

 

[Hammerhead]

You can not sign up on face book without you personal info you dimwit. I have a face book account on another comp to see what my kids are doing. If anyone signed up for your invitation you would know the account name here witch is a security breach. This has been discused here before and is a tou violation I believe.

 

[Gray Wolf]

No I am in cahoots with you to make a profit.

How does disrupting this forum make you a profit?

 

[Tokingham]

You can not sign up on face book without you personal info you dimwit. I have a face book account on another comp to see what my kids are doing. If anyone signed up for your invitation you would know the account name here witch is a security breach. This has been discused here before and is a tou violation I believe.

You are the dimwit. I have more than one account, non leading back to me personally. I am not going to tell you how cause thats for another place than hash oil threads.