NASA has Released Info on Brown Dwarf Star/Dwarf Planet Between Jupiter and Mars

[ShroomDr]

where the fuck are the moons?

Here is a high res shot of that image, it looks like a shitty photoshop (not saying it is, but it looks super shady; check out the lower left contact point where the rings meet the planet.)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/ wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Saturn_eclipse.jpg

 

[rootfingers]

I see what you mean. The part where the rings go in front of the edge of the planet look black and missing while the opposite is true where the rings go behind the planet. There they appear to eat into the planet.

Does Saturn have an atmosphere? Perhaps that could explain it?

Nothing is impossible but it is hard to believe that NASA is seriously releasing fake images.

 

[Anti]

This marvelous panoramic view was created by combining a total of 165 images taken by the Cassini wide-angle camera over nearly three hours on Sept. 15, 2006. The full mosaic consists of three rows of nine wide-angle camera footprints; only a portion of the full mosaic is shown here. Color in the view was created by digitally compositing ultraviolet, infrared and clear filter images and was then adjusted to resemble natural color.

LMAO,No unless you see any aliens on this pic, it is just extremely bad photoshopped and that for an organisation who spent millions of taxpayers $ money, even a child can do better.

You responded to my post (quoted above) but you apparently couldn't be bothered to read the part that I put in BOLD and RED letters (to make it stand out and be easy to see!)

NO CONSPIRACY! Just poor reading comprehension.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I see what you mean. The part where the rings go in front of the edge of the planet look black and missing while the opposite is true where the rings go behind the planet. There they appear to eat into the planet.

Does Saturn have an atmosphere? Perhaps that could explain it?

Nothing is impossible but it is hard to believe that NASA is seriously releasing fake images.

What you're seeing is a reflection from the sun's corona. You don't ever see the dark side of Saturn, let alone in eclipse so how would you know what to compare?

 

[elmanito]

You responded to my post (quoted above) but you apparently couldn't be bothered to read the part that I put in BOLD and RED letters (to make it stand out and be easy to see!)

NO CONSPIRACY! Just poor reading comprehension.

I read the part that you did put in bold & red, but what i said earlier the job is done in a very poor unnatural state, especially when you see the pic in its negative.

Is it a conspiracy, no, i don't think so, just amateurism like their exciting news about the arsenic bacteria!!

Namaste

 

[guest396]

in the mean time is this rev 12?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7u_6obeb1pw/TW_tnaOfjxI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/iTwMVVZi_14/s1600/20110929.JPG

oh yeah, i don't waste my time on mockers, so....

 

[dagnabit]

Yes Saturn does have an atmosphere.
It don't have much else

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

oh yeah, i don't waste my time on mockers, so....

What? Asking what you'd compare to something you've never seen before? I imagine the first folks on Earth thought a total solar eclipse didn't look exactly like what they were expecting.

 

[igrowone]

Yes Saturn does have an atmosphere.
It don't have much else

Saturn has Titan, the most happening satellite in the system
natural gas rivers, natural gas lakes(or something like that), and inexpensive real estate, if you act now!

 

[Anti]

LMAO,No unless you see any aliens on this pic, it is just extremely bad photoshopped and that for an organisation who spent millions of taxpayers $ money, even a child can do better.

Could you please post your examples of children taking 300+ photographs and merging them into a single image so that we can compare?

Or do it yourself. That'd be just as good.

As far as "millions" spent... for the entire 54 years that NASA has existed we have spent less on space exploration (that has benefited everybody on this planet) than we did in the 10 year Iraq/Afghanistan wars (which only benefits the rich).

To me, money well spent.

You are welcome to think as you wish.

I'd still like to see you photoshop those images together (or get your nephew to do it.)

Never did get a response to you as to how a "cave painting" showing "aliens" was "discovered" in India in 2010, even though the same painting was discovered in the 1800s in Australia and was featured in a youtube video which was made in 2007 (and which I linked to).

You sure get quiet when your stuff gets debunked. Why is that?

 

[elmanito]

Never did get a response to you as to how a "cave painting" showing "aliens" was "discovered" in India in 2010, even though the same painting was discovered in the 1800s in Australia and was featured in a youtube video which was made in 2007 (and which I linked to).

Well i'm sorry i forgot to answer that.

That is the same as why mummies were found in Egypt which had used tobacco & coca leaves.At this moment i can't find anything about this article that it was a fraud.

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2010/05/ancient-cave-paintings-depicting-aliens.html

http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html

About the Saturn pic, i shall ask my nephew if he has time

Namaste

 

[ShroomDr]

Saturn has Titan, the most happening satellite in the system
natural gas rivers, natural gas lakes(or something like that), and inexpensive real estate, if you act now!

Ill trade your chances at hypothetical methane based life forms, for a (subsurface) liquid water ocean (Jovian moon Europa).

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How does knowledge of interstellar life forms relate to an MJ growing forum?

Carbon is the basis of our life forms, carbon is the major building block, it has 4 electrons, which means it can easily give away or combine with another element to complete its outer shell.

Si has the same characteristic 4 electron outer shell. It can fill many of the roles that carbon can. (Giving rise/hope/thoughts of Silicon based life forms). When supplementing with potassium silicate, you are giving the plant more options for 'building materials'. (The second most abundant element on the earths crust is Si, almost all plants have evolved around it.)
[/dr greenthumb lecture]

 

[BashertofCyndi]

Ill trade your chances at hypothetical methane based life forms, for a (subsurface) liquid water ocean (Jovian moon Europa).

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How does knowledge of interstellar life forms relate to an MJ growing forum?

Carbon is the basis of our life forms, carbon is the major building block, it has 4 electrons, which means it can easily give away or combine with another element to complete its outer shell.

Si has the same characteristic 4 electron outer shell. It can fill many of the roles that carbon can. (Giving rise/hope/thoughts of Silicon based life forms). When supplementing with potassium silicate, you are giving the plant more options for 'building materials'. (The second most abundant element on the earths crust is Si, almost all plants have evolved around it.)
[/dr greenthumb lecture]

Their commin to SMOKE US?!?!?!?!

 

[ShroomDr]

The way i see it, if air is a fluid (and it is), we are the odd ones, not living in H2O...

Liquid H2O seems a lot more abundant than a N O atmosphere with comparable pressure (many whales, have no problem with the high pressures when deep diving).

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Either way, we are designed for this planets gravity, as evident with the bone and muscle loss of astronauts/cosmonauts. Even a lunar colony is really only a pipe dream until we develop artificial gravity. Someone living on the moon for an extended period, would have great difficulty walking on earth.

Alien life forms almost certainly exist. There are more planets in the universe than grains of sand on the earth.

However, we are just a 'pail blue dot'.

The distances between two stars is incredible; compare this to the distance from one side of the galaxy to the other, and then compare this to the fact there are 100+ million OTHER galaxies. The universe is a vast and relatively empty place.

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UFO's are just that, unidentified flying objects. The US stealth fighter was repeatedly sighted as a 'flying triangle ufo', until it WAS identified.

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Looking for radio signals from space is a noble idea, but relatively misguided. Our own radio signals have only been going for ~100 years; that means if you were 101 light years way (a very short distance astronomically speaking), you still wouldnt detect us for another year.
Add this to the fact that radio is a dying medium, we are moving towards fiber optics, and 'shielded' technologies, which will eventually lead to the ending our broadcast 'signal'.

If their commin to smoke us, they got a long way to come...
[/geek rant]

 

[igrowone]

Add this to the fact that radio is a dying medium, we are moving towards fiber optics, and 'shielded' technologies, which will eventually lead to the ending our broadcast 'signal'.
[/geek rant]

good point there, and the change from analog transmissions to digital transmissions are having a similar effect
i had seen that even the distance that our transmissions are detectable have been revised down, the signal to noise ratio estimates were revised
there is one technological civilization that we know of(us) that made a conscious decision to not setup a beacon that could be definitely detected

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

The way i see it, if air is a fluid (and it is), we are the odd ones, not living in H2O...

Liquid H2O seems a lot more abundant than a N O atmosphere with comparable pressure (many whales, have no problem with the high pressures when deep diving).

Liquid oxygen isn't made from pressure, it's made from freezing temps.

Either way, we are designed for this planets gravity, as evident with the bone and muscle loss of astronauts/cosmonauts. Even a lunar colony is really only a pipe dream until we develop artificial gravity. Someone living on the moon for an extended period, would have great difficulty walking on earth.

The moon has gravity, it's 1/6 of Earth's gravity. We'll inhabit the moon as soon as we benefit.

Looking for radio signals from space is a noble idea, but relatively misguided. Our own radio signals have only been going for ~100 years; that means if you were 101 light years way (a very short distance astronomically speaking), you still wouldnt detect us for another year.

Earth year measures time, light year measures distance.

Add this to the fact that radio is a dying medium, we are moving towards fiber optics, and 'shielded' technologies, which will eventually lead to the ending our broadcast 'signal'.

If their commin to smoke us, they got a long way to come...
[/geek rant]

Analog might one day be a distant memory but we'll still use the same radio waves (wherever there isn't a wire.)

 

[Guest 88950]

DB

i think what Shroom Dr was saying is @ 100 ys of brodcasting, signal traveling @ speed of light, then our brodcast signals only reach out 100 lightyears from earth so civilizations 101 lihgtyears away would need 1 more yr before our brodcasts would be detectable.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Think of this transmission thing as a time capsule. You and I will be long gone before somebody else learns of our earthy presence. We still want to reach out in case somebody's out there.

 

[ShroomDr]

where to start...

"Liquid oxygen isn't made from pressure, it's made from freezing temps."
I dont understand what your trying to reference...
I was trying to illustrate that 'air' pressure seems harder for us to physically deal with than water pressure (at deep depths) is for marine animals. (On a tangent, liquid oxygen can be 'had' from pressure (there is always a temperature), see triple point).

"The moon has gravity, it's 1/6 of Earth's gravity. We'll inhabit the moon as soon as we benefit."
Our muscles and bones ADAPT to their current environment. When astronauts/cosmonauts spend 10+ days in space (read zero gravity), their muscles/bones begin to 'waste' away. The body does not maintain what it does not need. 1/6 gravity, will result in 1/6 muscle/bone mass maintained, which would make it extremely difficult to walk around on earths gravity.

Earth year measures time, light year measures distance.
Again, im failing to see what your getting at. Light travels a specific distance in a certain amount of time (~300,000km/sec). It doesnt matter how long it take for 'this rock' to complete a revolution of 'this star'; light speed is constant (it is the 'C' in 'E =MC²').

Perhaps you are unaware that 'radio' is just another form of 'light', its just not in our 'visual' spectrum. Radio = light = travels at the speed of light.

Analog might one day be a distant memory but we'll still use the same radio waves (wherever there isn't a wire.)
Not the same radio waves, MANY AM stations use to be 'flame throwers', at night someone could pick up a signal 500+ miles away; now they are limited to 50,000 watts. With the exception of DARPA shit, all the new radio technology is very low signal strength, vs the old. You must remember, this has to reach space, pass our magnetosphere, past the ort cloud, travel many many light years to be possibly detected.

'Signal Earth' is less than it was, but conversely, we've got all kinds of garbage and spacejunk floating around... humans...

questions?

 

[NotaProfessor]

Vlad The Astrophyscist explains it pretty well.