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Scrogerman

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aqua lol! or hydro if i was running h2o2/bleach n a dead res! Coco can be a biatch to get to grips with, esp if your running stuff not atuned to it.

best advice i could give is follow a seasoned coco growers schedual exactly, cant go wrong then or its real unlikely.

id be off to get some canna coco a+b if was you. plenty of other coco growers use other stuff, like GH M/B, maxibloom, H&G Cocos, etc, list is endless, but i never seen aqua in their once for coco.

if you find out different about aqua, let me know, id be very interested.
 
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szachtb2

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I have absolutely NO attachment to the coco, ill get rid of it. My concern here is maintaining the use of my new bucket system. If i was to wash out the coco from the roots and repot into hydroton and run rockwool with all new clones would i get away with aqua or still wrong. The reason i kept the coco was to simplify my stagger. I was ganna hand feed all clones for 3 weeks than place in flower room. what would be easiest way to maintain 18 6 inch rockwool cubes for 3 weeks
 

Scrogerman

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Your making this pretty hard on yaself. its a fker i know. lest see what we can do to help.

im not sure chucking the Coco is the answer here. like i said try to run canna Coco a+b first, at least try it. its where im going next away from DWC & NFT. & what ill be using, with canadian express addys, like my buddy 'Cheesey' uses.
not recirc though man, ill be running topspin drippers!

if you pull plants now, your gonna cause a fk load of damage to roots & put them back causeing even more yellowing, might fk em right up, stress's & shock etc etc, na i wouldnt bother. you just need to run the right nutes at the right strength/EC, bit of a foliar n you should be good.

i can get on Canna Uks site no bother btw?

cant help you on recirc, ive never done it with coco, i wouldnt do it if i could help it, but will it work, im not sure tbh,??
cant you just bite the bullet & top feed(to waste) manually for this round?
 
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szachtb2

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the ones that look like all hydroton have a 1 gallon coco rot ball in the center. Im gonna pick up more hydroton and run a new tank with coco a/b and see what i get. gonna run drip clean as well. should i run the cal mag, i see some still do with tap and coco a/b? what should i foliar with. I dont know if I have anything that will bring em back? what should i use?
 

szachtb2

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btw the system has only been running for 2 days with the plants in them. gonna run tonight or tomorrow to get rest of hydroton to finish system.
 

Scrogerman

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Go with the Coco a+b. run the drip clean, cal/mg would depend, prolly not needed, but never say never. Whats ya water like EC?

You would of done better to post this in the Coco forum tbh.
 

szachtb2

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my base water is 110 on a eutech meter. even when i was hand feeding them they never were as lush green as they should have been. I was not sure if they were under fed or needing cal mag?
 

Scrogerman

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prolly a bit of both by the sounds of it. coco eats up the cal/mg, yours look nitrogen & Mg + starved to me.



your second set of pics look fine/ok, your first set not so clever.
 
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szachtb2

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that is the point when they started looking unhappy. I transplanted the the day b4 in the pictures. they were potentially water logged too long due to inadequate drain holes in new pots. I poked new holes and reflushed, due to bad advice and they have never been happy since, ive gone easy on nutes cause i was initially worried about burn due to canoeing and curling. It may have been an under feed issue the whole time. Some were thinking cause i was vegging under 4k they could handle more nute than was given. Im just now worked up to 800 ppm with a base of 110 water. Do i need more, where should my ppm be. canna is calling for 950 or so ?
 

RubeGoldberg

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they really dont look too bad, I agree with scrogerman, maybe just slight cal/mg

when you say re flushed, are you using a clearing agent?

what is the PH going in? Are you using canna's COCO nutes? how often are you feeding/watering?
 

szachtb2

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Im phing between 5.7-6.2 using canna coco nutes with 1.5 ml per gallon cal mag. I ran the system on aqua vega a/b as per store with cal mag and than thats when the new yellowing begun? Was told to switch back to the coco a/b, cleaned res and ran with new batch of coco a/b at 850 ppm. Any time i flush i flush with water than a 25% coco rhizo solution to re buffer, let dry out and continue regiment. What are your thought on the aqua a/b and the pic on 1st page? Ive read aqua can be done but did not realize it was an issue???
 

Scrogerman

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Hey man,
you'll prolly be back on track now youve switched back to the canna coco a+b. take what they tell you in shops with a pinch of salt. talk in EC not PPM, its bs & confuses people.

Do you ever check your run-off numbers(whats goes in what comes out), i know its not a 100% accurate gauge, but it should help give you some idea of whats going on.

I think its important you read up on the mechanics of using Coco as a growing media. You'll understand a bit better then. its all in the Coco forum like i said.

coco rhizo to re-buffer? where have you got that from?
 

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