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doublejj

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Fed's can keep count, over time!
I read a very disturbing article in the newspaper today. A pair of Medical marijuana advocats in Northern Cali, were having to report to jail to begin their 5 year min federal prison sentences.

What I found most disturbing was that they had invited the local sheriff to verify that they were following Cali guidelines each year. The sheriff returned year after year to verify. The catch was that they were keeping count of how many plants were grown each year & when they finally went over 100 plants total, accumulative. BINGO! The Feds moved in & charged them!

If they can keep count over time, I may have to quit posting on line!
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P.S. Here is the story from the Sacramento Bee newspaper:


Cannabis couple: Martyrs or drug dealers?


Published: Sunday, May. 1, 2011 - 12:00 am | Page 1A
Last Modified: Sunday, May. 1, 2011 - 10:02 am

Dr. Marion P. "Mollie" Fry packs for federal prison in her red "marijuana Medic" T-shirt.
She is an activist who wears her cause, who clutches a medical cross with a cannabis leaf, who points animatedly at her chest hollowed by radical breast cancer surgery. Her emotional account has stirred rallies demanding acceptance for the "medicine" that alleviated her suffering.
Now, in a widely followed saga, Fry, 54, and her husband, Dale Schafer, 56, are to surrender Monday to serve five years in federal prison for conspiring to produce and distribute marijuana.
They are headed to prison after spurning a plea deal that would have spared Fry any time behind bars and given her husband 1 1/2 years. They are losing their freedom, said federal Judge Frank Damrell, due to their own "self-aggrandizement" as "missionaries for marijuana" that left them feeling impervious to the law.
To California medical marijuana advocates, Fry and Schafer are martyrs for the cause. They portray the El Dorado County couple, a physician who recommended pot and an attorney who counseled patients on marijuana law, as compassionate servants who believed in the healing properties of cannabis.
"It's a sad statement that we're going to witness a cancer survivor who recommended marijuana for lawful patients going to prison," said Kris Hermes, a spokesman for Americans for Safe Access, an advocacy group for medical marijuana users.
Prosecutors say the case of Fry, 54, and Schafer, 56, might have started as a sympathetic story of a husband growing some marijuana for his ill wife – until it ballooned into a lucrative criminal conspiracy.
They say the couple raked in up to $1 million or more selling medicinal pot recommendations and luring medical clients by illegally distributing marijuana through couriers and even packages sent via United Parcel Service.
"They became very aggressive in their pursuit of this business model and they made a lot of money doing it," said U.S. Attorney Benjamin Wagner in Sacramento. "Unfortunately, they tried to milk the tragic side of her medical condition to develop this heroic narrative, which doesn't square with the facts."
It has been three years since Shafer and Fry were sentenced. Ten years have passed since they were raided and 12 since authorities began investigating Fry's medical clinic along Highway 49 in rural Cool and the marijuana gardens at their home on Waterfall Trail in Greenwood.
Their story chronicles the evolution of medical marijuana in California. It offers conflicting accounts about Mollie Fry and Dale Schafer, as crusaders for healing or profiteering conspirators.
Based on testimonials for them and testimony against them, both versions may be true.

Pot eased the pain


Mollie Fry grew up as the daughter of Dr. Caroline Fry, a sixth-generation family doctor, practicing Malibu nudist and notable free spirit.
Fry said her mother raised her "with fire in my belly" and a passion for medicine. She also passed down a history of breast cancer. At 10, Fry saw her mother succumb to the disease "in the worst, most frightening thing in my life."
In late 1997, Mollie Fry, having earned a medical degree from the University of California, Irvine, was home-schooling her children in a faded blue ranch house amid Ponderosa pines when she was diagnosed with fast-advancing cancer. Surgeons removed both her breasts – cutting "down to the chest wall and the circulation," she says – to save her life.
Terrified and deeply depressed, she said she endured five months of chemotherapy, during which "I threw up and threw up and threw up."
A doctor told her marijuana might ease her nausea. It worked. Fry says she "went from losing half a pound a day to maintaining a stable weight." She says pot "made my mood better. It made me want to live."
California voters in 1996 approved Proposition 215, legalizing the use of marijuana for medical conditions. But the rules were ill-defined. marijuana medicine was in its infancy and legal pot wasn't easy to obtain.
Dale Schafer, a workers' compensation lawyer who represented police officers in injury cases, drove his wife to San Francisco and the Cannabis Buyers Club of Dennis Peron, an advocate who championed Proposition 215.
The cannabis club doled out an eighth of an ounce of pot at a time. The couple said Fry, sick from chemo and tormented by shooting pains, found the journey intolerable. So her husband read up on pot growing and planted marijuana behind their home near the mountaintop hamlet of Georgetown. They found their medicine and their calling.

Clinic draws a following


It wasn't long before Fry's suffering offered a public face for medicinal marijuana use.
In 1999, she appeared at the state Capitol, lighting glow sticks "for the patients who were sick and dying because they couldn't have medical marijuana."
The same year, Fry and Schafer opened the Whole Health Medical marijuana Research Center in Cool, including a physician's clinic and legal office. They soon hosted the media in their pot garden.
Despite passage of Proposition 19, marijuana use remained a crime under federal law. But courts affirmed physicians could recommend pot without fear of prosecution – as long as they didn't aid patients in obtaining it.
Fry and Schafer charged $150 to $200 per person for medical marijuana recommendations plus legal consultations as hundreds, eventually thousands, of people came to the rural clinic.
They ran radio ads for a medicinal alternative to pills. "There is a choice," the spots said. "Medical marijuana."
Fry said she started out seeing people with "diabetes and cancer and rheumatoid arthritis." Soon her patients more often claimed sleeping problems or chronic pain.
Fry felt she had a gift of understanding. "I could touch people," she said, "where they were hurting."
Having perfected growing marijuana for his wife, Dale Schafer made a fateful decision to provide pot – for free, he insists – to other patients.
"He was looking to solve the problem of people having to pay black market prices," said Cool resident Mitch Fadel, who heads a medical marijuana advocacy group founded by Fry and Schafer. "He was disgusted with what patients were being forced to pay while driving all the way to the Bay Area."

A probe in plain sight


Convinced of the nobility of their mission, the couple invited El Dorado County narcotics officers to their garden. When Detective Robert Ashworth and a partner came in 1999, he said, he was greeted by Fry, "a very emotional and very passionate person," and Schafer, "a very likable person" who solicited his advice.
Schafer asked officers if the marijuana was an issue for federal agents. "They told us the feds had no problem with what we were doing. And when I told him I was going to give the medicine to sick people, they said they had no problem with that," he said.
Ashworth, who noted in his report there were 21 pot plants on the property that day, confirms he told them the feds weren't looking at them – because it was true at the time.
That changed after U.S. authorities contacted the El Dorado County Sheriff's Department, saying marijuana was being sent out in UPS packages under Schafer's name.
Ashworth continued visiting Fry and Schafer, now assisting the U.S. government. He said he was under no obligation to tell them of the federal drug probe.
"This was the best undercover operation I ever had," he said. "I never had to hide the fact I was a policeman."
He made small talk with Schafer about the attorney's Little League baseball team, even as he counted 43 marijuana plants in 2000, adding them to the 1999 total. Under federal law, marijuana prosecutions can be based on the number of plants observed over time. By 2001, that total would edge past 100, making the couple vulnerable to extended time in federal prison.
By then, authorities were probing a conspiracy larger than a backyard garden.
In early 2001, a real estate appraiser came to the house for an inspection for a home refinance loan. Assistant U.S. Attorney Sean Flynn said the appraiser found a concrete and cinder block bunker filled "with so many marijuana plants he was frightened."
The appraiser drove to the first pay phone. He called police. "He realized that he had come upon the property of drug dealers," Flynn said.
Federal authorities said Shafer and Fry were offering a marijuana service, with the doctor recommending it and the lawyer providing it.
They said Schafer formed a business – Cool Madness – that sold $400 kits, including marijuana seedlings, lights and growing materials. They alleged that he distributed marijuana from his office at his wife's practice and had couriers shuttle or mail it to paying customers.
In February 2001, federal prosecutors convicted two employees at the medical clinic of growing marijuana. They offered them leniency in exchange for cooperating in the probe of the doctor and lawyer.

Two turn informant


Mollie Fry was soon on guard for narcs posing as patients.
When a man looking like a cop came to her clinic, she guided him through range of motion exercises and said: "OK, lift up your shirt and let me see your wire."
Fry says she gave thorough exams and required medical records and a lengthy questionnaire on patients' health histories before writing marijuana recommendations.
But Ashworth said two undetected narcotics officers got them with no records and little or no exam.
Authorities alleged that Fry and Schafer took in $750,000 to $1 million from 5,000 medical pot clients from Aug. 1, 1999 to September 28, 2001, when agents served warrants on their home and business.
Paul Maggy, one of two ex-clinic employees convicted of growing marijuana, testified that it was a volume business – as Fry urged staff to bring in "a hundred patients a week." He said Schafer handed out baggies of marijuana at the office and gave a pound of pot to a South Lake Tahoe man, telling him to charge $45 per eighth of an ounce sold.
Michael Harvey, who tended the couple's marijuana gardens, said the lawyer sent him to deliver pot and collect payments from customers from Vallejo to the High Sierra. Harvey said he also mailed seven UPS packages of marijuana at Shafer's behest.
Schafer said he only permitted charging $10 for gas and never approved any mailings. He depicted Harvey and Maggy as rogue employees who sold pot on their own and testified to save themselves.
But marijuana patient Jody Ann Bollinger recalls Schafer's oldest daughter, Heather, now 35, calling to offer medicinal deliveries. She said she bought pot from an employee who had her write a check to Schafer and said, "If there were any questions, I could say it was legal fees."

Couple reject plea deal


The investigation took off as California was still trying to sort out its hazy rules for medical marijuana. And, in a conservative Mother Lode county, it targeted two people who drew attention to themselves.
Fry shared her cancer story, touting the benefits of cannabis. Schafer hosted a workshop on making pot cookies and – even after the couple's home was raided – ran for district attorney as a medical marijuana candidate.
They were indicted in June 2005 based on 110 marijuana plants – 98 counted by Detective Ashworth and 12 others seized in 2001. Prosecutors said they could have gone after the couple for 1,000 plants and seedlings.
The couple refused a plea deal of freedom for Fry and reduced time for Schafer. "I married my husband for better or worse," Fry said, sobbing in a recent interview. "I was not going to send him to prison."
Schafer's lawyer, Tony Serra, said an "ulterior motive to destroy the state medical marijuana movement" lay behind their federal trial in 2007. Prosecutor Flynn said it was about a couple enriching themselves, recommending pot and providing it "like pizza delivery."
After 10 days of trial, a jury convicted Fry and Schafer in less than three hours.
Last year, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rejected a bid to void their convictions on grounds they were denied a medical marijuana defense under state law and entrapped by officers who failed to inform them their conduct was illegal.
Fry sold her practice in 2008 to another physician specializing in marijuana medicine. In 2009, the state Medical Board put her license on three-year probationary status and ordered her to get training and a psychiatric exam. Schafer is now ineligible to practice law.
marijuana advocates, who plan to mass Monday at the federal courthouse in Sacramento, filed a clemency petition – and sent it to President Barack Obama – on behalf of the couple and their five children, the youngest now 18.
"They were not judged by an informed jury," said Jon Moore, a Garden Valley nature photographer who got a marijuana referral from Fry for pain from a broken neck. "I liken them to people found guilty for stealing a boat to save a man from drowning."
Federal prosecutor Anne Pings scoffed at tributes for a couple who broke the law and spurned a deal that could have spared them a required five years in prison. "If they are martyrs, it is because they have chosen to be martyrs," she said at their sentencing.
Long after their case began, medical marijuana in California exploded into a massive industry of pot doctors and marijuana dispensaries.
Schafer suggests that he and his wife were "10 years ahead of our time," and acted legally under state medical marijuana law. Fry likened the couple's plight to that of Galileo, the 17th-century astronomer sentenced to house arrest for defending the idea that the sun is the center of the solar system.
Ashworth says they aren't seers. They were just a couple, he said, "who went from a doctor and lawyer to drug dealers​
 
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AOD2012

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This is bullshit. Haha i went to high school with a girl who got shitfaced and crashed the car she was driving. unfortunately, two of her friend died. Nothing happened to her, she didnt even lose her license because she DIDNT have one. Yet these people are going to have to do five years in federal prison... gotta love america. I hope this doesnt stop you from posting doublejj, im trying to see you harvest at least 20# this year in the carport!


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pearlemae

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It's all about keeping the prisons full for a steady supply of slave labor. MJ user are much less likely to be violent in the prison environment, so it makes sense. Mj busts generally have low levels of violence( pot smoker are less likely to shoot back) and once in the prison system are going to be easier to control.
So, Google Correction Corp of America, its one of the largest of the prisons for profit, which make huge amounts of money by using prison slave labor. Think about it, they pay pennies an hour with no expenses vacations, medical etc. makes it simpler than shipping jobs to China's slave labor when we can keep it home. People should be outraged but its not well publicized.
:smoweed: and keep the slave labor at home where it belongs.
 

Babbabud

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Molly was our doctor many years ago. What wonderful compassionate people they both are. Before you got you rec Dale would spend some time with you explaining the legalities of having an MJ rec. Molly would write your rec and always end her exam with a hug. What great compassionate people. So sorry you have to go through this Dale and Molly.
Nam myoho renge kyo
 

Noobian

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"Despite passage of Proposition 19, marijuana use remained a crime under federal law." Where'd that come from?
 

Noobian

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"This was the best undercover operation I ever had," he said. "I never had to hide the fact I was a policeman."

Never trust a cop!
 

Yes4Prop215

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sad, aggravating, pathetic....so many bad words to describe this....these people were not the smartest for flaunting but no way they should do 5 years....i know kids who SHOT PEOPLE and got less than 5 years....fucking unbelievable.


i will say that they are lacking on brain cells for refusing that plea deal.....
 

ajc0k

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Yea they are dumb for not taking the plea deal. The guilt of her husband locked up for 1 1/2 years and her not, likely swayed her decision. Now they both get the mandatory 5 years oo wee. Poor people...
 

Rednick

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"This was the best undercover operation I ever had," he said. "I never had to hide the fact I was a policeman."
WTF?
Is this guy retarded? Or just a world class asshole?
:blowbubbles:
I would call this more of a back-stabbing operation, than an undercover operation.
Of course, there is always more to a story than meets-the-eye.
 

ImaginaryFriend

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i will say that they are lacking on brain cells for refusing that plea deal.....
Yes4Prop215,

I don't disagree with your posts very often, but I do in this case.

At some point, some people choose to stand for what they believe.

A plea agreement requires a plea of guilty.

If they believe that they did nothing wrong, and operated in good faith, then to stand strong is an act of courage.

To submit a plea of guilty, when (I suppose one could argue 'if') in fact they were not, is an act of cowardice and driven by fear.

Ultimately (and simplistically), the state of affairs that we see in the world is rooted in the fear people have for their government/judicial systems/threats to couch and comfort.

All of the people whom I consider great have the common characteristic of setting aside fear for self and standing for what they believed to be right.

It should be noted that most suffered great personal injury in their decision to stand, but without that great individual sacrifice, we would see less good in the world than we do today.

This is the act of a conscientious objector.

This is non-violent protest.

Rebellion without blood.

'Progressive society' is a sham.

Collectively, we do nothing.

It is only the solitary acts of personal power that bring change to the world.
 

Yes4Prop215

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they had undercovers with rock solid evidence against them...witnesses who testified that he was mailing pounds....and was clocking over a million dollars in cash every few years....my first comment of "lacking brain cells" was wrong because it does seem they are doing this as coscientious objectors..


but theres a certain point where chosing to stand up for what you believe in versus realizing you got caught red handed.....the offer of 1.5 years and no jail time was a pretty decent deal from the DA....there was no way they were gonna beat any of these charges they had evidence stacked to the ceiling against them...


i do understand and respect the fact that they are sacrificing the next 5 years of their life for the cause and for marijuana, most of us wouldnt do that. they clearly want to make a point with this....if every grower/smoker who got caught decided to tell the judge "take me to jail!" it would clog up the system and hopefully make them change laws...but it will never happen, they are just two more bodies in the system now. they shold have taken the deal, then while she was out free she could have started growing again, instead they are both locked up. hopefully they get early release or something....
 

ImaginaryFriend

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Last year, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rejected a bid to void their convictions on grounds they were denied a medical marijuana defense under state law
Molly was our doctor many years ago. What wonderful compassionate people they both are. Before you got you rec Dale would spend some time with you explaining the legalities of having an MJ rec. Molly would write your rec and always end her exam with a hug. What great compassionate people. So sorry you have to go through this Dale and Molly.
I dunno.

I think there can be fees associated with service that doesn't demerit the service provided.

luring medical clients by illegally distributing marijuana
... free samples? Generous, it seems.

In early 2001, a real estate appraiser came to the house for an inspection for a home refinance loan. Assistant U.S. Attorney Sean Flynn said the appraiser found a concrete and cinder block bunker filled "with so many marijuana plants he was frightened."
The appraiser drove to the first pay phone. He called police. "He realized that he had come upon the property of drug dealers," Flynn said.

Either the doctor and lawyer are morons, or felt they had nothing to hide.

$750,000 income over two years for a doctor and lawyer in California... that seems within the realm of reason...

I dunno.

I guess I'd like to see more people do what they think is right, even when it's not the easiest choice.

Until that happens--if it ever does--we are fucked.
 

RoachClip

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If they would have took the plea agreement which dancing around it but still means A plea of guilty it also gives up their rights to any appeals so in many cases this is why they rather serve and file appeals and serve maybe 18 to 24 months with good behavior then serve the rest of their time with supervised probation...

The Goverment owns you as soon as your born with your feet and hands finger prints, then it's a birth certificate, then a social security card, then a drivers license etc so are we really ever free of them owning us, were free but just really in reality have a long rope around our necks until we get sloppy and get busted or get hung by friends or relatives or both...

When your Born your fucked & Owned and when you die Your Free...
 

Hippie420

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Roachclip hit the nail on the head... It's things like this that make me want to move to Canada or the UK somewhere...

The War on Drugs
The War on Terror

Two single largest waste of time in American history and the reasons why America is slowly becoming a fucking 3rd world country...

Fuck taking any deal the Fed's can give you, anytime something in life seems to good it usually is...

However inviting a cop into your house and on to your property when grow legal or not is just fucking stupid...
 
If they would have took the plea agreement which dancing around it but still means A plea of guilty it also gives up their rights to any appeals so in many cases this is why they rather serve and file appeals and serve maybe 18 to 24 months with good behavior then serve the rest of their time with supervised probation...

The Goverment owns you as soon as your born with your feet and hands finger prints, then it's a birth certificate, then a social security card, then a drivers license etc so are we really ever free of them owning us, were free but just really in reality have a long rope around our necks until we get sloppy and get busted or get hung by friends or relatives or both...

When your Born your fucked & Owned and when you die Your Free...

Fed time you do 90% they will do 4 1/2 years without a doubt
 

Campfire

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Officer Friendly is just a good conservative republican Law-abiding clean-cut American family man who wants to keep the streets safe for you and me and our tender, sensitive children. On your knees to him, grovel, and obey the Authority of Unquestionable Dominance he represents.....or else
 
The rub for me is as soon as you apply the American capitalist mentality to MMJ the way the pharm industry has, they throw the book at you 98/mph.
 

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