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TrichyTrichy

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lost in a sea

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way to pull a chemdog.


well in most of the rest of the country you still go to jail for possesion, nevermind growing. just a friendly reminder.


way to bogart a strain you got from him.

as to most of the rest of the thread.....:nono: :noway: :wallbash:

seriously how has what rez has done been bogarting?

he's made seeds and others have been free to do the same, with the same cuts or even use rez's gear, and have hardly done shit,,, plus these days i see loads of "breeders" bitching about rez and then breeding with his genetics,,, lol :dunno:

gets a bit old hearing that one,, i do agree with your last sentiment though,

oswizzle to be honest your talking crap,,,,
 

MadBuddhaAbuser

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seriously how has what rez has done been bogarting?

not like he's got it hidden in a closet or anything dude.
but i mean------
Hiya!
Firstly-Chemdog isn't a breeder.
Never has been,never will be.
He's a grower,and a damn good one,at that.
(And a very nice guy,as well.)
"JJ-NYC" is a friend of Chem's,anything "released by Chem"
(Read As: "Approved by,but Not Bred by,Chemdog") will most likely come from JJ
.....edit for lengthy rant....[ Anyhow.... There isn't really any point in those guys bothering trying to closet-pollen-chuck an inbred line from the Chemdog 'D' Clone,as Reservoir has already got a finished Chemdog D-based inbred line

kinda funny saying the guy who kept those seeds and actually did something with them in the first place "shouldnt even bother" trying to do anything with them. don't ya think? whatever, i think all these breeder soap opera dramas are a little played out anyways.

:smoke out:

and I have to agree with your last sentiment as well.

oswizzle to be honest your talking crap,,,,
 

Yes4Prop215

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Hey Bro, I would not worry about losing the original Hemp strains that are good for nothing but twine, clothes, and fiber, paper, etc.....

They still make it through to the growers, just take a shot at Harborside, Berkeley Patients Group clones, you will always find a few of those.

haha funny but both of those groups have stepped their game up a bitm the fire OG cuts i got from harborside recently were some nice kushy stuff, and BPG gives clones to a few farms up north and they have some decent kush crosses as well that produced good nugs last season..

i was at a local club today..they had some "milky way OG kush" that made me laugh. i ended up buying a half 8th of it for 30 bucks, its the same exact kush that i grow, the SFV Pure Kush cut. milkyway OG haha, that club plays a ton of name games. U2 kush, blue bubba kush, Uranium Kush, Platinum Kush, Woogie Boogie OG kush....all for basic fire and SFV pheno OG kushes..
 

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I was online today doing a little kush research outside this site... the man's name we all know that is associated to it said there was someone using his good name to defraud or scam potential seed buyers.
 

MadBuddhaAbuser

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I was online today doing a little kush research outside this site... the man's name we all know that is associated to it said there was someone using his good name to defraud or scam potential seed buyers.

That in and of itself is a scam, he is still/back over where he went when he left here. The other guy just takes peoples cash and doesnt send anything.
 

BongRipkenJR.

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haha funny but both of those groups have stepped their game up a bitm the fire OG cuts i got from harborside recently were some nice kushy stuff, and BPG gives clones to a few farms up north and they have some decent kush crosses as well that produced good nugs last season..

i was at a local club today..they had some "milky way OG kush" that made me laugh. i ended up buying a half 8th of it for 30 bucks, its the same exact kush that i grow, the SFV Pure Kush cut. milkyway OG haha, that club plays a ton of name games. U2 kush, blue bubba kush, Uranium Kush, Platinum Kush, Woogie Boogie OG kush....all for basic fire and SFV pheno OG kushes..


I grew u2 kush. It is actually a Master Kush X U2 Lavender. It is very Master Kush dominant and is nothing like SFV OG
 

mriko

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He He He all this talk is hillarious.... You guy actually think a war zone like the Hindu Kush Mountain region ever imported marijuana to United States are trippen lol Not to mention the weather in that region probally couldnt even grow hemp....Trying to imagine a white person going to a war torn part of the world and retrieve seeds is such a joke...

I see no problem with that. Until few years ago there were still travellers roaming Afghanistan, not a lot, but a few. In 2004, in Peshawar, I met an Italian guy who travelled round the country for two whole months, without any problem. In these days it was common to meet, still in Peshawar, travellers who had crossed the country from Iran. And I'm pretty sure that still today, there are a few hot heads roaming the place.

It's not the whole country which is warn-torn, and in some places war actually never showed up.

About the weather, depending on years, Afghanistan is 1st or 2nd hash producer in the world, so the weather is just fine for the plant. As in Iran, lots of phenotypes overthere, with a harvest time actually going from late-july/early august to late-december/early january.

Soviet occupation doesnt have shit to do with Hindu Kush region....thats the place Pakistan and India have been fighting over since the 1940's...do some homework ..no fucken way in hell anyone is going there and bringing seeds from a part of the world they can barley grow wheat lol

Errr... Sorry OW, but you're wrong here. Most of the Hindu Kush range is located in Afghanistan. Also, Pakistan and India don't fight about Hindu Kush, but about Kashmir, and Kashmir is whole proper himalaya range, and Karakoram on Pakistan side, not a single Hindu Kush peak is in Kashmir.
I've visited Kashmir, and I've visited pakistan Hindu Kush (and as a matter of fact I've brought back seeds, like many before me). Yarkhun valley is where it stops. West side of the valley is Hindu Kush, East side of the valley is Hindu Raj range.
And for your information, the Hindu Kush is quite green, with way more than barley being grown there, and lots & lots of wild & cultivated phenotypes to pick from.

Cold winters and hot summers characterize the climate of the Hindu Kush range. Winters of the lower highlands vary from extremely cold in Ziarat, Quetta, Kalat, Muslim Baagh and Khanozai the northern districts to mild conditions closer to the Makran coast. Summers are hot and dry, especially the arid zones of Chaghai and Kharan districts. The plain areas are also very hot in summer with temperatures rising as high as 50 °C (122 °F). Other hot areas includes, Turbat, and Dalbandin. Winters are mild on the plains with the temperature never falling below the freezing point. The desert climate is characterized by hot and very arid conditions.

hmm, I don't know where you got that, but this is about Baluchistan, not Hindu Kush.

German Anthropologists mapped the taxonomy of the Hindu Kush region c1940. later c1960s the Russians moved in. at which point hashish and seed were moved to support 'those that struggle'.

I don't know about these German anthropologists, but Vavilov's work is the reference in that matter (that was during the 30s if I remember). Russian "moved in" in 1979, not the 60s.
Yeah, after reading your other post, I think you're talking about Vavilov, he was Russian.

German Anthropologist didnt map the plant right...there is Zero mention of Iran in any of the text books in relation to cannabis....I have never read anything ...yet...it grows wild over there everyewhere in the mountains and it has the most ideal weather in the entire middle east...the best weather as a matter of fact....so Indicas have been here for thousands of years and zero mention of it from experts who have been at it this long....hmmmmm suspect...

Well, if they were in the Hindu Kush, they obviously couldn't map Iran... But yes, I agree with you. Considering the huge diversity of phenotypes, and old customary uses, in Iran, one can wonder at the reason why so little documentation on Iranian cannabis exists. This is sad because potential is huge. Caucasus & Caspian sea (a highly possible cradle of cannabis) are there, but data aren't. I guess the Islamic revolution didn't help to motivate researchers.
And if Vavilov choose Afghanistan rather than Iran, it's because Russia had had an eye on Afghanistan (it was the road to India) since a few centuries.

Why don't you help fill the void and do some filed research OW ? That would be way more constructive than bashing at people. Yes, you're growing plants from there, and it's nice to have a look at beauties from your country, thank you for sharing but, in the end, all your doing is showing picture of plants and that's what almost everyone on this site is doing. It doesn't bring much more knowledge about the plant, only a tiny tiny fraction of what's available.

"Sample populations of 157 Cannabis accessions of diverse geographic origin were surveyed for allozyme variation at 17 gene loci. The frequencies of 52 alleles were subjected to principal components analysis. A scatter plot revealed two major groups of accessions. The sativa gene pool includes fiber/seed landraces from Europe, Asia Minor, and Central Asia, and ruderal populations from Eastern Europe. The indica gene pool includes fiber/seed landraces from eastern Asia, narrow-leafleted drug strains from southern Asia, Africa, and Latin America, wide-leafleted drug strains from Afghanistan and Pakistan, and feral populations from India and Nepal. A third putative gene pool includes ruderal populations from Central Asia.

I agree with OW on that one. Only 157 accessions, and none from Iran. THis is Hillig's study right ? The man himself wrote that he had not enough samples to get a clear view, and his results are only putatives.
The diversity of Iranian genepool is not to be questionned, it's simply huge, period.

Here a few bits of Hindu Kush (those are pics I did shoot myself OW...)

Wild plants from Rumbur valley (Chitral district)




Swat seedlings


Chitral


Yarkhun



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mriko, much respect and good work on a comprehensive post.

I think you argued with me when I mentioned the many phenos that exist in natural cannabis producing regions, then agreed with me on these latest post. Where ever an agricultural product originates you find the greatest diversity. Indeed you described diversity and your photographs illustrate diversity.

I have been to US, Asia and Africa. I have touched on the middle east (Oman Muscut) but have no cannabis experience there. I have been to Mexico too. Point is, when I am in these places I buy cannabis by the ounce. I just get a taxi driver and ask him. Every time it was a total crap shoot what I was going to get. I have been offered cannabis that ranged from nearly hemp to Thai weed in the same town for the same price. We all know that certain altitudes and regions in general produce a similar product because evolution in micro climates dictate. I also know that when left to go wild cannabis does resort to a wild ass plant that expresses extremely varied phenos. Your pictures illustrate that. Saying that cannabis is potent just because it comes from a region is not correct. When nature selects to evolve a species it is to survive a micro climate. When man selects to evolve a species it is to produce a desired effect like sweet apples, or potent cannabis.

Best region to buy potent cannabis is California USA. You have the highest collective of motivated botanist there.
 

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Oh and the people of Afghanistan....they are basically white people....

Both Pathan tribes and the Kalash hold ancestry with European families. The Kalash are said to share lineage with the tribes of Alexander the Great from Macedonia. Later the Pashtun adopted some of the children of relations of Queen Victoria in an ambush on an Imperialist caravan of pack-horses in Afghanistan. Both are well documented. Infact most 'Durranies' will today claim Royal blood,,, one way or another.

The truth of history... is that blonde hair and green eyes don't just appear from no-where. One reason German Anthropologists held such an interested in 'face-casting' the people of the region and documenting their feudal lifestyle was to re-trace their own ancestry. Again well documented....

peace

Anyhow ,, back to the Ganja which in Afghanistan often descends from seed cultivated in Tajikistan and Uzbeck lands... not Afghanistan itself!! Uzbecks are rich in the region and often sell seed via Mazar and other northern out-posts to poorer Afghan farmers. Fact

 
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