"Creator" Of Kush

[vaped]

exactly. i'll admit it. I have long dreadlocks. but my meaning of it isn't the same as the next white dude's and it certainly isn't for Jah. because I'm an atheist. but the rasta religion is very strict. true rasta are vegans that harvest seaweed and such for food. not white dudes that were blowing coke in miami when bob marley was alive.

Exactly and if you follow the teachings of marcus garvey the true rasta holy man we are all white devils. I knew the haters would label me a racist. Just ask any of my platoon mates they would have all went in a door infornt or behind me because they knew I had there back. This white rasta shit is just retarded though. This religion does endorse up to 10 grams of ganja a day thats proper but it was built upon racism against whites. I cannot respect that. I was born in 1984 served next to every race that is presently in America eskimos included and loved em all. Read the 6 principles of rastafari the first 3 are the most racist lines on ink.

 

[medicalgreen]

Drew Noble Ali

http://sites.google.com/site/ancientkemeticcultureinstitute/Home/religious-observance/noble-drew-ali

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Fard_Muhammad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism

Peters - The Union Jack (British Israel political messianism and New World Order) (1970) This is Helen Peters' explosive book The Union Jack (1970) which exposes the incredible conspiracy of the covert British Empire to conquer the world through world religious fundamentalism guided covertly by the so called "British Israel". British Israel is a term which describes the manipulative efforts of elite British oligarchs to create an one world feudal society (controlled by them) by first creating the state of Israel (as happened with 1917 Balfour Declaration) and then using Christian fundamentalists to promote the idea that Christ will physically return to Earth and will rule a "Kingdom of God on Earth" for a thousand years from his throne in - you've guessed it - Jerusalem. The only problem is, after those million upon millions of 'Christian' fundamentalists passively give up their constitutional liberties, their country's sovereignty, and their freedom in the mistaken belief that the Apocalypse/Armageddon and End Times scenario is an inevitable 'prophecy' from God that must take place before we can be delivered into the happy world of the New Millennium, they will finally discover that they've been delivered into a satanic, feudal slave society that will no longer tolerate any talk of Christ or Christianity - assuming they are still alive to enjoy the 'Kingdom of God on Earth'. The frontline promoters and propagandists of this magical kingdom include all the well known TV evangelical personalities like Pat Robertson, Billy Graham, Robert Shuller, Benny Hinn and many others. Many of these televangelists employ shouting, flamboyant movements, repeated phrases and various histrionics to pump up the emotions of the audience in order to achieve a very specific technique of brainwashing called 'conversion'. The elite on the other hand plays both sides of the Christianity card to manipulate the gullible into delusion. They either utilize pseudo-historians to sell the idea that Christ never even existed or they use their opposite, the fundamentalist 'Kingdom of God on Earth' promoters, to sell the Apocalypse/Armageddon/End Times package. Either way, the naive and gullible masses are duped as they either lose their spiritual foundation altogether and acquiesce to the humanistic or Masonic Gnosticism ploys, or they go whole hog into cheering for Armageddon and the End Times scenario to unfold so they can "get it over with" and race into the arms of 'Jesus' who will greet them from his golden throne in the newly rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. These End Time 'prophecies' have no relationship whatsoever to the words or earthly mission of Jesus Christ as he is known to have said that "My Father's Kingdom is not of this world" and therefore specifically rejected all the "prophecies" being promoted by a dominant Jewish sect of the day known as Pharisees. The Pharisee priests had been predicting that a Messiah would come to earth and establish a "Kingdom of God" and rule from his throne in Jerusalem, after overthrowing the Roman oppressors who ruled Judea at the time. This is to the point exactly the same tale that the above named 'Christian' fundamentalist preachers are selling today to multitudes of deceived people around the world. Christ came to Earth to remind humanity that man is more than flesh; that man is spirit clothed within an outer vestment of flesh. His example thoroughly rejected materialism, corruption and deception so plainly witnessed in the lives of the above named End Times propagandists. The Union Jack explicitly identifies British Israel, group of superrich british aristocracy, as the hidden hand behind the so called "The Kingdom of God on Earth" and explains how this incredible deception is being made before your eyes using millions of fundamentalist believers all around the world in order to establish an one world totalitarian government. It's one of those rare books that puts it all together and is a brilliant historical study of the political messianism which has been using one and the same tricks for thousands of years - unfortunately with success always guaranteed. 320 pages. A must read for everyone.

ed2k://|file|Peters.-.The.Union.Jack.(British.Israel.political.messianism.and.New.World.Order).(1970)
.pdf|1614744|3099D816FD2B345C4E1D3A43BD4BBEB8|/

 

[OGBubba]

Respect to you my brother...that was beautiful an much appreciated. It did not mention what was going on when Rasta as we know it today stemmed from...yes it was against white people but who was fucking with them....british and american white people... the message...well other than peter and jacob....who were beat and brutalized daily because of white british and american tourism interest it became prevalent again....and the white man was the infultrator...but I hope through the reggae and Bob's final messages...it will be as what Selassi I wanted...as well as other great men who stood there ground.

 

[medicalgreen]

Zion means "Sin"

It's the Mountain of Sin-ai, or Mount Sinai.

It was where the Jews went to worship their old forgotten Goddess, or God, the Moon God, Sin.

It has nothing to do with a kingdom of heaven scenario, or the kingdom on Earth.

 

[OldTimeGrower]

want to hear my opinion? to bad your going to. All these modern strains have almost ruined hemp as we know it. hemp is a cultigen meaning it has been cultivated by man for so long its original origins are unknown, By selectively breeding plants for THC content and quickness of flowering we have heavily damaged the natural balance of canabanoids that can cure any illness causing fragmented genetics and it is a mark against god himself. hemp was originally given to this planet and the human people to feed, cloth, shelter, and heal mankind and in its original form it would have been able to accomplish all of this. but no we had to fuck with something good now we have hundreds of different strains that can only function at a depreciated level of the original plant that provided for all for us. And for medical users they have to search sometimes their whole lives for the perfect strain that helps their problems because the full range of canabanoids does not exist in one plant anymore, you can't make clothes and shelter out of a plant that is specifically for "getting high" and people like me suffer from even knowing that we have stupidly squandered the single most amazing and important plant in the world that has supported us since the dawn of man. you all make me sick arguing about where this one strain came from it is a global crime that we have all committed in our ignorance and greed to have changed this plant so much its original origins are but legend and most strains are useless. just look at hemp bred with no THC I have eaten seeds from all different strains and they are tasty except the ones specifically bred for food they taste bad why is this? because they used selective breeding to breed out THC and weakened the genetics of the plant the same thing happens when you do the opposite. and also the closest probable link to the original plant if it exists would be the natural growing hemp in the Kush region because that is where the genetics has been traced back to and also where the legends (that are always based in some truth) say that this wonderful plant came from. Think about the fact that everyone who has ever grown a hemp plant selectively has bred out some genes and with 98% of people focusing on getting high and not the more important things like staying alive in a world wide famine we are fucked because the plant that has always saved our asses in cataclysm has been changed to the point where we would need many different strains together to meet our needs and not all of these strains can grow in the same climate now so anotherwords the global famine that is already happening is going to kill far more people then should have died. If you don't belive me maybe you should research some real history and you will quickly see that we would not be alive on this planet in our current form if it wasn't for this plant but the plant could do just fine without us.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

no, it won't be. sorry to break it to you, but the world is controlled by the white elite. and your prophet robert nesta marley was killed by the CIA. no one stood any ground. any renewed rasta movement died with Bob as the white man wanted.

Soma should be our dread prophet. A rebel and a holy herbman and healer. He's more relevant to us growers than Bob Marley.

 

[medicalgreen]

want to hear my opinion? to bad your going to. All these modern strains have almost ruined hemp as we know it. hemp is a cultigen meaning it has been cultivated by man for so long its original origins are unknown, By selectively breeding plants for THC content and quickness of flowering we have heavily damaged the natural balance of canabanoids that can cure any illness causing fragmented genetics and it is a mark against god himself. hemp was originally given to this planet and the human people to feed, cloth, shelter, and heal mankind and in its original form it would have been able to accomplish all of this. but no we had to fuck with something good now we have hundreds of different strains that can only function at a depreciated level of the original plant that provided for all for us. And for medical users they have to search sometimes their whole lives for the perfect strain that helps their problems because the full range of canabanoids does not exist in one plant anymore, you can't make clothes and shelter out of a plant that is specifically for "getting high" and people like me suffer from even knowing that we have stupidly squandered the single most amazing and important plant in the world that has supported us since the dawn of man. you all make me sick arguing about where this one strain came from it is a global crime that we have all committed in our ignorance and greed to have changed this plant so much its original origins are but legend and most strains are useless. just look at hemp bred with no THC I have eaten seeds from all different strains and they are tasty except the ones specifically bred for food they taste bad why is this? because they used selective breeding to breed out THC and weakened the genetics of the plant the same thing happens when you do the opposite. and also the closest probable link to the original plant if it exists would be the natural growing hemp in the Kush region because that is where the genetics has been traced back to and also where the legends (that are always based in some truth) say that this wonderful plant came from. Think about the fact that everyone who has ever grown a hemp plant selectively has bred out some genes and with 98% of people focusing on getting high and not the more important things like staying alive in a world wide famine we are fucked because the plant that has always saved our asses in cataclysm has been changed to the point where we would need many different strains together to meet our needs and not all of these strains can grow in the same climate now so anotherwords the global famine that is already happening is going to kill far more people then should have died. If you don't belive me maybe you should research some real history and you will quickly see that we would not be alive on this planet in our current form if it wasn't for this plant but the plant could do just fine without us.

the death of one, is the the beginning off life for another, so I say,
why interfere in God's plan?
Everything we do, is because God created us, so everything we do, is in Gods interest. So, it must be God's will,
What God Wants, God Gets.....

 

[OldTimeGrower]

the death of one, is the the beginning off life for another, so I say,
why interfere in God's plan?
Everything we do, is because God created us, so everything we do, is in Gods interest. So, it must be God's will,
What God Wants, God Gets.....

I would agree since I have read the ancient legends and there is one that sticks in my mind I will give a summery in my own words. "there once was a plant that could cure any illness that man could be stricken with but because man was greedy and misused the plant by both tampering and denying his brothers of the plant, god was angry and as punishment god split this plant into 365 different plants one for every day of the year" to me the only plant that this could apply to in my mind is hemp and it may be gods will but it is punishment out of greed of man that gods will was enacted

 

[Laugan Gaucher]

not a problem

not a problem

Are you sure that OG Kush has no Kush in it? I ask because I have been offering my Hindu Kush since the mid 1970's, original genetics straight from the Hindu Kush mountains, and I was not the only one with imported Indica genetics being shared around. This was 20 years before the presumed birth of OG Kush. No matter either way, for sure someone got Indica seeds and selected or bred OG Kush, why not you? My real interest is what it was made from, sounds like we will never know....
-SamS

only diesel with kush sort...is that an enigma ?

diesel is not a mystery at all...and kush is shorty afghan selection ...

bubba kush is far away of a legend but I can admit it's a beatifull lady...like a blond lol ...but I love black powa...

 

[medicalgreen]

I would agree since I have read the ancient legends and there is one that sticks in my mind I will give a summery in my own words. "there once was a plant that could cure any illness that man could be stricken with but because man was greedy and misused the plant by both tampering and denying his brothers of the plant, god was angry and as punishment god split this plant into 365 different plants one for every day of the year" to me the only plant that this could apply to in my mind is hemp and it may be gods will but it is punishment out of greed of man that gods will was enacted

Hey Bro, I would not worry about losing the original Hemp strains that are good for nothing but twine, clothes, and fiber, paper, etc.....

They still make it through to the growers, just take a shot at Harborside, Berkeley Patients Group clones, you will always find a few of those.

 

[OldTimeGrower]

Hey Bro, I would not worry about losing the original Hemp strains that are good for nothing but twine, clothes, and fiber, paper, etc.....

They still make it through to the growers, just take a shot at Harborside, Berkeley Patients Group clones, you will always find a few of those.

I am not speaking of those strains I am speaking of the ancient origin of all hemp/pot/marijuana strains there is no longer such a strain existing today and if there is it is a secret and heavily guarded by a people who know the truth.

 

[vaped]

Holy shit it just happend again ban me now but some one just came on and said I love black powa let my honky as say that shit. nope i wont cause people will get pissy. Anyways when the war between russia and afgahnistan was in efect the U.s. government let the Affies import massive Quantities of opiunm and hash and weed into thr U.S. This had a way bigger impact on the breeding of marijuana than any "Hippie" on the hashish trail bringing seeds back. We shelled out major dough selling stinger missles to massoud. we needed to get capital back this is all part of the contras too. Denver was a major dumping grounds for this affie dope coming in. Most of the purple Affie in michigan in the 70's came from a now dead soldier named dan damsend . When he was statined in leavenworth he met up with a young afghani man in denver on a long weekend. He bought a sack from him and the seeds from that produced most of the purple indica that flourished in michigan all through the 90's. The reason I know this is my father was his best friend and stole his seed crop like the piece of shit he was in 1991. This purple Afghani was first grown in coleman michigan in 1978. The pinconing paralizer and many other famous michigan strains can all pay homage to the now dead dan damsend.

 

[hazefest]

Damn, talk about killing a thread with irrelevant ramblings.....figure out whatever deep rooted issues you have somewhere else please folks.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

right this was a blatant advertisement, and then a joke thread, and then a genetics discussion thread and now some guy's soap box to scream lies from.

I think it should be binned.

 

[hazefest]

I think those who wish to make relevant contributions should, those who dont like it can occupy their time more productively and find something to post about that does interest them......im not saying this is true or not but i wanna let it all unfold one way or another so lets keep it peaceful, friendly and most of all relevant.
Peace

 

[connoisseur 420]

this thread should not get binned
some very interesting stuff coming out of thids thread

no need to get on a racial debate

we all talk and look diferent
its life

as long as we happy in our self is all that matters

now lets forget the religous talk(as it always ends bad) and get back to the roots of buba etc

im all ears ogbubba

 

[Phillthy]

The story of the $500 ounce always bothered me. I mean, nowadays you might see top quality going for that, but in inflation adjusted '91 dollars that would be the equivalent of around $800. I just haven't heard of anyone paying that much for a bag.

$500 for an ounce is a price that has been paid since the late 80's here on the east coast. you can get 500-600 all day for good 'kind bud'.

 

[bocil]

This is a real Kush , PCK by Uncle Charlie Garcia.

Purita Kush weys .I put to germinated 11 seeds about the PCK and PCK X Uzbeki.


An a few Metal music for alls ,have a nice days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmUYVZpBIXE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYwUbvM5d20

 

[silverhazefiend]

back to the weed people ..i liked signing on and reading this thread different stories always come out the wood works ..but there fun to read ..i was lost just now ..when did religion and race come into play ?..was it like "did u see the new african american og"??lol..JK..
Chemdawg the man has new lines coming out ..he blantantly states that hes not a breeder and he jus grew bagseed ..he also states how the new lines come into play ..most were from herm pollen ..i can list the new strains but im 2 lazy to post pics now ..maybe someboy can chime in ??

Chem B= NYC hp-13 x Chem D(herm pollen)
Mass purp Kush=PK x Chem D(herm pollen)
Candy chem=Chem D x Super snowdog(herm pollen)
Barking Dog=mystery seed from the chem D...****(a whole new strain from an old one ??)
OG1=Sfv maybe x Chem D(herm pollen)

U can see why the chem has no males ..it was herm prone ..chem didnt have to breed anything ..i think the original chem was a female that hermed alot but was to danky to throw away ..never needing any males to breed with ..if its one thing i can agree with there was never any mention of a male ever ..but alot of diffrent female representaions around the country ..it either hermied or the hermie pollen hit something in the room ..i think it was an accident ..i think it was a "kush" x sativa(herms alot) ..that would explain the power and looks of the orginal chem ..anybody ?? I also think that tthe NAME GAME really has a big part to play in this ..somebody knew the orginal name of the plant and renamed it ..then someone else did it ...then someone else ..so u could of had the same plant in 2 parts of the country named diffrently but the same thing ..there was no internet to compare and talk about similarties ..so everybody thought they were holding something different ..they could have diff.. tastes looks etc but came from the same family ..like phenos in packs of seeds ..i could imagine how many times that shit hermed in growers hands and they grew out those herms like chem did and had dank ..

 

[DWkush]

Let me rephrase that answer...I just took a rip and read what I wrote that does not answer your question...the bubba kush was a hermi accident from the kush that also pollinated my PI (result Purple Kush)...there we go...ha

You told me two mondays ago that you created Bubba Kush in Florida and drove it to LA.

Ok, so this thread might of got a lot more interesting, or a lot more confusing. Maybe even slightly retarded. I emailed the owner of the club Matt Berger on his take of the origins of og kush and this is what he told me...

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Matt Berger wrote:

Hey bro...how'z it going. I appreciate your interest in the origins og the kush and bubba kush. Master kush is some bullshit that the kanuck got a hold of and tried to flood LA with garbage trying to copy the Kush, Kush was not called og until after BReal and snoop made it famous. It stood for the Original...the real deal...Everyone was calling there shit Kush. I am Bubba. I started the Bubba and named it after me and my friends...my bubbas...This was in Gainesville Florida which is where my partners older brother coined the name Kush in 1990. The bubba kush started in 96 after a hermi accident which my kush pollinated my Bubba and my Purple Indica. That gave birth to the Bubba Kush and the Purple Kush or PI. These are the facts. The guys at high times or B Real will validate this truth. There is no strait Bubba left. All my friends that had it killed it off after the Bubba Kush. When I first brought the Kush to LA, I was getting 8g's a lb. So we quit the bubba and was only doing Kush and Bubba Kush which brought the best price. Unfortunately, my strait Bubba was lost. I have yet to see anything like it since 96-97. There will be an interview on weedmaps coming up and High Times will be releasing the story as well. I have known the people from High times for over a decade andf the have been waiting for me to allow them to publish my story and book. I am sure...just like the guys that say og stands for ocean grown or the kush guy is dead or from New Zealand...you are still in disbelief...but if you want ta talk about ridiculous...listen to those fools.

So your "kush"pollenated Bubba & purple indica to create bubba and purple indica? What's the cross on the straight bubba you made 1990 same year you invented og? How did you get the inspiration to make such crosses? What's was your logic? Ware are you going with this? Do you hope to Trademark/claim ownership on all the strains you have claimed to have made? Stop it with this Rasta bullshit! IC mag is not the stereotypical stoner forum that you seem to take us for. We all realize that "I invented kush" Advertisement campaign bragging rights/ corporate kush takeover has noting to do with being a true Rasta. Dat Be Greedy Mon! Babylon!!!