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i havent "filed" taxes in about 15 yrs??

WelderDan

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To the OP. Find a Tax Attorney and get some advice. Here's the thing. If you make more than $600 per year, you are required by law to report it.

You can be fined for not filing, even if you have paid in the correct amount. Fines are compounded, and they add interest to unpaid fines.

Even if you do not technically owe taxes, you do owe fines. The IRS is pretty screwed up, but eventually they will figure out "hey, this dude hasn't filed in X years". Then you'll be subject to fines, penalties and any interest accrued on those fines and penalties.

A good Tax Attorney can help you figure out the best course of action. It could mean the difference between working out a payment plan, or having your assets seized and your wages garnished.

My brother got tied up with the IRS to the tune of $14k. He was looking at liens, property seizure and wage garnishment. He got a good Tax attorney that worked out a payment plan and now he's in the clear.

The IRS can make your life extremely miserable. Find a professional to help you before they figure it out, it will be cheaper in the long run.
 
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el dub

Oh, man.....

If you do anything, just talk to a CPA before getting a lawyer involved. YOu definitely need a CPA and there is but a small chance you need a tax attorney.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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And how many of them added that many people with the sole responsibility of screwing you and I? You sound like you've never had to pay federal income taxes. I'm not making a political argument, rather pointing out the facts whether you like it or not. It was the Dems that rammed it down the country's throat against the will of the people, right? So you stuff it.

Paying taxes isn't being screwed. It's your legal obligation as a working citizen of the USA. You don't like it? Then go work in some other country. The people you can thank for that are the Republican President William Howard Taft and the Republican Super Majority Senate of the 61st US Congress who in 1913 gave Congress the legal authority to impose a permanent Income tax.

As for Obamacare, yes, you are making a political arguement regardless of whether it's factual or not. Which btw it is factual that it was passed but it isn't factual that it was rammed down the country's throat against the will of the people. If the Dem's did that, which they could have back when they still held a super majority in the senate and a majority in the House, then Obamacare would have been the single payer healthcare that the Dems wanted all along.
 

HighDesertJoe

COME ON PEOPLE NOW
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Oh, man.....

If you do anything, just talk to a CPA before getting a lawyer involved. YOu definitely need a CPA and there is but a small chance you need a tax attorney.
Pull up your big boy britches gather up your shoe boxes full of paper work and see a CPA. If you've been having taxes taking out of your wages you should be OK just let a CPA look it over for you and you'll see where you stand, then if need be you'll know if you need a lawyer.
IMHO you're going to be OK
GOOD LUCK :tiphat:
 

ocean_grown

Member
My family has a long history of trouble with the IRS and money troubles in general.... Grandfather was thrown into prison with Charlie Manson for assaulting an IRS agent. My parents themselves just had their little remaining funds frozen by the IRS as a slap on the wrist for not paying their tax debts (as if they had the money to pay it back to begin with). All I's gots to say on the subject is FUCK THE IRS, fuck taxes and fuck the american establishment. All the way, sell weed to yuppies and make them prices blow up like hydrogen!
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
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Anybody seen Patrick Cox on the tube? He advertises services for years of back taxes, even getting out for less than you owe.
 
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rick shaw

Anybody seen Patrick Cox on the tube? He advertises services for years of back taxes, even getting out for less than you owe.
Don't waste your time,I met with Ronnie Deutch tax attorney. All they wanted was $1,500.
Just take your lumps and set up a payment schedule.
 

Clackamas Coot

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NOKUY

As usual the level of stupidity in the advice you've been offered is, as usual, expected.

There was a point in time where I found myself in your exact situation - I had had payroll deductions effected as per law but like you I had not done the 'filing' deal. For 14 years.

One day I received a phone call from the bank that I did business with. The caller verified my legal name, SSAN, address, etc.

At that point the caller notified me that the IRS had seized my checking account, saving accounts, stock holdings, etc. They further advised me NOT to write ANY checks on this account and further informed me that ANY checks floating out there would NOT be honored.

So much for the goober-speak from one of the advisors that the IRS will somehow send you a bill once they figure out what you owe them.

Delusional.

I contacted an attorney who had represented me in a couple of drug-related criminal cases. When I explained what was going on he stopped me in mid-sentence and gave me the name and number of an attorney who was a retired IRS attorney who solely practiced in the a division in the federal court system - the IRS court.

Bottom line is that at the end of the process I paid the IRS attorney over $10,000.00, another $5,000,00 to a CPA to re-construct my tax files going back to when I quit filing, $15,000.00 owed to the IRS (legit) and $12,500.00 in fines.

Thanks God for an inheritance.

If you're serious and you actually want to get this resolved about the last place I would be seeking information is on this board - just look at the advice offered on other subjects here at ICMAG

Pick your poison - these f*ckers ain't playing around. They don't send you a bill. They don't hope to help you get this resolved - they are there to bend you over the hood of your car and with, and without, a can of buttered-flavored Crisco - they will get their money.

Get an attorney. A real IRS attorney. Not some dimwit who was trying decide on whether or not to pursue a career in a grow store vs. two month carrer at H. R. Block

Best wishes.

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DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
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...When I explained what was going on he stopped me in mid-sentence and gave me the name and number of an attorney who was a retired IRS attorney who solely practiced in the a division in the federal court system - the IRS court.

Bottom line is that at the end of the process I paid the IRS attorney over $10,000.00, another $5,000,00 to a CPA to re-construct my tax files going back to when I quit filing, $15,000.00 owed to the IRS (legit) and $12,500.00 in fines.

Not unlike Patrick Cox and Donnie Deutch, two former IRS tax attorneys.
 
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el dub

There is a real good chance that the IRS owes the OP money for excess payroll tax deductions. It doesn't take a lawyer to figure that out. Rather, the lawyer would be necessary if it was determined by a CPA that the OP owed a substantial amount of money to the government.

lw
 

Hydrosun

I love my life
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You can be fined for not filing, even if you have paid in the correct amount.

Even if you do not technically owe taxes, you do owe fines.

These two statements are 100% WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The failure to file penalty is a PERCENTAGE of the tax due. So if you owe ZERO are do a refund there is ZERO failure to file penalty. Don't believe me, that is fine but I am right.

Since ANY penalty is based on the amount of tax due there will be NO penalty unless the filer / non-filer / taxpayer / citizen owed taxes and did not pay them.

I agreed with your advise to speak with a professional, however many of them spread mis truths, such as those listed above.

:joint:
 

SpasticGramps

Don't Drone Me, Bro!
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Paying taxes isn't being screwed. It's your legal obligation as a working citizen of the USA. You don't like it? Then go work in some other country. The people you can thank for that are the Republican President William Howard Taft and the Republican Super Majority Senate of the 61st US Congress who in 1913 gave Congress the legal authority to impose a permanent Income tax.

Personal income tax is a form of slavery. Especially in this "new normal" system of privatized gains and socialized losses. It's outright theft.

Personal income tax was initially created to help pay for the Civil War. It became permanent in 1913. Funny, that's the same year the Federal Reserve was created and this country became a fascist centrally planned state.
 

Brother Bear

Simple kynd of man
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Agree with you on the taxes paying for shit i don't want :yes:
I file every year myself. Earned income = $0 year after year :blowbubbles:

Fuck taxes and fuck the gubment that wastes them.
 
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el dub

So, how do you folks against taxes propose to pay for interstate highway infrastructure, stop lights, police, fire dpt and other services essential to keep our country running?

lw
 

headiez247

shut the fuck up Donny
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Speak to a certified attorney in person—not to somebody here who claims to be one (no offense to anyone.)

I would get it sorted out. Crime rarely pays (except selling weed, but that's not a 'real' crime and ultimately nobody gets hurt,) especially when you're stealing from the government or any big corp. Sell weed to pay off your taxes if anything.. with interest and penalties, it's really not worth the hassle.

This.

Hopefully you don't owe money, but if you do, and your name comes up (which it will eventually) IRS can literally show up at your house. Tons of articles online about IRS paying visits to people's houses and work. If you grow at your house, that is something you don't want.

Hit up a CPA, now. Stop asking growers on the internet about it. Theres a chance you are owed money. You need to file and take care of this.
 

Hydrosun

I love my life
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So, how do you folks against taxes propose to pay for interstate highway infrastructure, stop lights, police, fire dpt and other services essential to keep our country running?

lw

Roads, Interstate Highways, Stop Signs & Traffic Lights = gas tax collected at the pump.

Police & Fire = Property Tax collected from owners of property in the county.

Other essential services (Navy and Air Force) = excise taxes on goods consumed.

Since this country did function prior to the income tax, and the income tax has only been around for 100 years, and only HALF of the adult population is subject to the income tax, one could envision a system where no income tax existed.

:joint:
 

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