Bill Introduced To Legalize and Tax Marijuana
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You aren't putting words in my mouth if I was the one saying them.
I've told you repeatedly that a lack of retroactive pardons, increased penalties, new offenses, harsher penalties, and including hemp in the circle jerk were all reasons I didn't support 19.
I wasn't against it really... I just never found any answers to quell my concerns... just a very stern assertion that they had been issued many times. That combined with a horribly "Final Solution"esque rush to the finish line convinced me SOMEONE needed to point out some serious flaws.
It is if you're trying to compromise your compromise.
I think his true point is that he is a freeman and has no need to ask to breath, eat, drink, or smoke weed. These are all basic human rights and no human has the right to prevent his neighbor from pursuing happiness.
The restrictions on our basic human rights is unconstitutional and therefore invalid.
Additionally any new legislation that seeks to limit human rights is also unconstitutional.
We need to come together and REPEAL unconstitutional legislation for the benefit of all others, but as FF said he and I will smoke if we please and permission from our neighbors is not sought or required.
No smoking and growing is telling not begging. Voting is a circle jerk of AARP members.
Thomkal Vwalaa
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fully agree in theory, then the criminal justice system enters the scenario and our status as "freeman" are not really something we own, just something we hold on to as long as we don't get caught.
No smoking and growing is telling not begging. Voting is a circle jerk of AARP members.
fine with me..
non voters tend to be those most vocal about voting no...
so the effect they have at the end of the day is negligible
Thomkal Vwalaa
Member
A concept that should be easy to comprehend...
Gosh mmm, you think retroactive pardons are possible? I don't see that as something the voters will support. Agreed on increased penalties, new offenses, harsher penalties, and HEMP.
I voted for 19, and find myself arguing for the truth more often than 'for' or 'against'. All these out of staters wet themselves at the possibility CA might do something to make their state come around. No one wanted to talk about the affects on CA.
So it has been for almost every human ever born, however if we can't first be free in our own mind, we will never be free in the eyes of our neighbors or the tyrants that govern.
a little late to the discussion...
try reading the 19 thread it was more about cali than you think
I would think that pardons would empty some cells... isn't that on CA's priority list?
My point is simple... if it's legal, then it should have never been illegal... actions should reflect such.
My point is simple... if it's legal, then it should have never been illegal... actions should reflect such.
FYI this WA proposed legislation has nothing to do with a public vote and similarly the criminal statutes enacted to violate our rights sprang to life without a public vote.
19 didnt fail because of the details. its because the majority of voters cast their vote out of ethics or emotion and not of fact or reality. Unfortunatly, it came at a time when all these fucking nutjob teabaggers and republicans were in full anti-obama frenzy and would have voted for anyone whos name was attached to an (R) prefix. I think we will see a much different outcome if obama can continue his gain in popularity and the republicans fail to find a candidate that will energize their party...
not gonna take the time to explain representative government to you.FYI this WA proposed legislation has nothing to do with a public vote and similarly the criminal statutes enacted to violate our rights sprang to life without a public vote.
suffice it to say there is no illegal electoral college at the state level
tea baggers and their close cousins the cash croppers...
Thomkal Vwalaa
Member
So it has been for almost every human ever born, however if we can't first be free in our own mind, we will never be free in the eyes of our neighbors or the tyrants that govern.
agreed. but let's not lose sight of reality while we are living in our heads.
BlackThumbGrowr
Member
fuck! enough of the pathetic bickering you two. ( u know who) other people want to keep us with these discussions and you guys are having personal petty bickering all over. you look pathetic and make this place look bad. arent theses forums supposed to be for adults to have discussions on relevant topics on regards to legalization? stop or find a playground to continue in.
Thomkal Vwalaa
Member
I do not disagree, but I do think that grouping all of these ideals together is self defeating when it comes time to vote. I would love to see some retroactive cannabis de-legislation, but am not sure if the public is ready.
I for one, would like to see hemp in the USA, that can be tackled alone and has little negative connotations like recreational pot. The only hemp in the US is for the army because they know how great it is.
Thomkal Vwalaa
Member
We all hope so. Great post. If they put up Palin I'll puke, and laugh. If she wins I'll cry.
i think (no matter what happens legislatively) this will be addressed in courts
