The Bubblegum Poll...
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No, I haven't been wrong on anything.
What you have done is get some bullshit in your head, and then try to demean anyone who disagreed with your stance. Much of the shit you threw out was deleted.
Look, the "cutting you down" as you claim I did was only defending myself. You came in claiming I was wrong, and I simply straightened you out. Of course that is hateful shit isn't it?
And you are not trying to have a simple discussion, you are a troll. You have been made to look pretty silly in the past with your unfounded rantings, and you want to make it right by finding some sort of fault with me.
And don't come off all innocent as if all you have ever done is repeat what you read. No, what you did was read some bullshit from the canna bible..and took it as gospel. It was explained to you how that information was not biblical in nature, but mostly internet bullshit that was published. Then you come in with stuff from Clarke, yet you didn't really understand what the man was saying with his writings. You misinterpreted what he offered, and it was explained to you in detail and repeatedly, yet you continue with your rants.
Well respected top cannabis breeders even joined in the mix and on many occasions backed up what many had been trying to tell you, yet you continue on with your ignorant shit.
Basically, you have caused plenty enough bad vibes. I am done with you and your bullshit. You want to learn, then read closer and study up. And I suggest you do lots more reading, and far less posting.
stagger lee
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Funny fuckn shit lol! Baba where did all that come from? This is a BG thread but if your talkn about post258 in the WTF is w/feminized thread that was between me and hoosier. This is a thread thats got nothing to do w/that anyway!
stagger lee
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BTW....some of the posts earlier in this thread are basically uncalled for or disrespectful altogether. sometimes those kinda post can come back to bite you in the ass. Im not even talkn about those directed at me.
Im pretty sure all the info were talkn about is in BOGs seeds section in the Bogs strainguide (locked down) few pages in he goes into detail about sourbubble pretty interesting shit!
Im pretty sure all the info were talkn about is in BOGs seeds section in the Bogs strainguide (locked down) few pages in he goes into detail about sourbubble pretty interesting shit!
stagger lee
Member
BOG's seed section has a BOG's strain guide thread(locked down) post # 22 I think were he explains that sourbubble is just a special pheno of Bogbubble pure Bubblgum back crossed several times. No outcross at all.
stagger lee said:
OK, here is the deal...
I realize that you have been schooled on a few things that you were refusing to be schooled on. People that refuse to learn things often times bring about lots of senseless arguing and round-n-round bullshit sessions.
First off...if you have every grown Sour Bubble, then you will know that it is not a pure bubblegum, nor is it a pheno of any pure bubblegum. But then maybe you haven't had any experience with bubblegum either? I have grown LOTS of bubblegum from different sources and I know what is bubblegum and what is a bg cross. I have also grow BOGS sour bubble and know it is not a pure bubblegum pheno. It is a BG outcross and there is no denying it.
Now, like you have been told before, stagger...you need to not only absorb what you read, but you also need to read between the lines. See, this is not a proofread publication of facts, but a discussion board. And as such things can often times be misunderstood, or even misspoken. You have already shown a proclivity to take things out of context and completely misunderstand as well as misinterpret what you are reading, so I will do a bit of the homework for you.
Now, in doing this it is going to bring up some questions. And they will need to be posed to Bushy himself, because there will most assuredly be controversy.
And I am not entirely sure that BOG wants to let the whole truth out, as he has been a bit elusive over the years about his prized lines. But in any event, I will post up the evidence for all to see, and you make up your own minds...or ask Bushy himself.
And there is contradiction in Bushy's words, and perhaps by design. But IMO he has simply made a couple of misstatements, or he is being purposely misleading. Taking his words on their own weight, I have to believe that he had no intentions of misleading anyone...and has only misspoke.
In any event, your coming on to my personal page and demanding an apology from me is way premature, stagger lee. No, what you need to do is apologize to me for trolling me at every turn in an attempt to show me being wrong...wrong on something...you just have to find fault in me don't you? I understand how the human condition gets when it has been embarrassed, so no biggie.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=17528&page=2BushyOldGrower said:
And we find a few quotes by Bushy like this....
BushyOldGrower said:
And these...
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=17528BushyOldGrower said:
But then how do we explain these statements?....
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=17528BushyOldGrower said:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=163063BushyOldGrower said:
stagger lee, you will first need to have some experience with these lines before you can go around asking for apologies to what is the truth in your own mind.
Have your grown Bogbubble or SourBubble either one? Can you really comment?
If you want to chastise someone and find fault with what the post, then I suggest you hit up OldBushyGrower and find out just what bol weevil ate the cabbage. He has laid out some contradictory statements that would lead the unknowing into confusion...but those who have grown this gear can easily see where BOG misspoke.
Let me help you, stagger lee...ask him what is the difference between a line being "pure bubblegum" and a "bubblegum/kush"?
He has stated the Bogbubble is both...so you get clarification from the man himself and then ask for apologies that are appropriate.
Kapish?
We hear so many different stories and opinions. Mine is just another so disagree or disbelieve if you wish. Rumors maybe, who knows.
I believe the original intended name for the strain was to be " Reaper", in honor of its, (grimm)inventors, the mexi weed smuggling bikers that were the first to bring indica into the region and cross it out with the mex/lumbo and others stuff around. BG is the result of that activity in my opinion and represented a new kind of weed.
I think name was changed to "bubblegum" during harvest time because of the smell that was emitted from the drying crop. The original growers hung the weed in an old abondoned farm house to dry and cure. When they re-entered the house after being away, there seemed to be the strong distinct smell of minty bubblegum.
While some individual plants did smell a bit more so than others, i believe idividual plants only had the hint of bg and not really a strong bg smell . The old house contained nearly 70 lbs of weed drying and the bubblegum smell came from the collective scent of that much weed being dried but not so much from the smell of any individual plant .
Over the time since the original cross left its point of origin, (maybe with some of the folks mentioned earlier),the name "bubblegum" took on more prominance and i think some breeders may have focused on selecting and breeding plants for that smell but i guess that may be a different story..
The narcotic, euphoric high, sweetness and early finish was all the rage at the time of its birth. Its early finish represented a new day for growers in the area over the mexi brick weed that folks around had been trying to grow with limited success. I dont think the name and smell was a prominant aspect back then and were secondary to its other fine qualities, but it seems over time the smell has become important to and sought by many.
Just supposition on my part. Good luck with your hunt wiggs.
The original genes are still around in its place of origin but few have a strong bg smell in my opinion.
I believe the original intended name for the strain was to be " Reaper", in honor of its, (grimm)inventors, the mexi weed smuggling bikers that were the first to bring indica into the region and cross it out with the mex/lumbo and others stuff around. BG is the result of that activity in my opinion and represented a new kind of weed.
I think name was changed to "bubblegum" during harvest time because of the smell that was emitted from the drying crop. The original growers hung the weed in an old abondoned farm house to dry and cure. When they re-entered the house after being away, there seemed to be the strong distinct smell of minty bubblegum.
While some individual plants did smell a bit more so than others, i believe idividual plants only had the hint of bg and not really a strong bg smell . The old house contained nearly 70 lbs of weed drying and the bubblegum smell came from the collective scent of that much weed being dried but not so much from the smell of any individual plant .
Over the time since the original cross left its point of origin, (maybe with some of the folks mentioned earlier),the name "bubblegum" took on more prominance and i think some breeders may have focused on selecting and breeding plants for that smell but i guess that may be a different story..
The narcotic, euphoric high, sweetness and early finish was all the rage at the time of its birth. Its early finish represented a new day for growers in the area over the mexi brick weed that folks around had been trying to grow with limited success. I dont think the name and smell was a prominant aspect back then and were secondary to its other fine qualities, but it seems over time the smell has become important to and sought by many.
Just supposition on my part. Good luck with your hunt wiggs.
The original genes are still around in its place of origin but few have a strong bg smell in my opinion.
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THE PABLOS
...I'd have to agree with Baba. Grow the plants and take a look for yourself.....they will show testament to mis spoken words/guarded genetic truths.
...That doesn't make anyone a bad person.....just a little tricky about what went into what....
For Bubblegum....I'd go with Serious.....or make my own.
...That doesn't make anyone a bad person.....just a little tricky about what went into what....
For Bubblegum....I'd go with Serious.....or make my own.
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"I wouldn't advise Bogbubble to anyone."
- I have to disagree completely, I haven't felt burned myself, wish the yield of my sour bx2 was larger but wtf, the taste and potency was out the ceiling. This plant below is out of recent bogbubble seeds, yield, taste, stamina are all there, and if this doesn't smell and taste like bubble gum I guess I never chewed gum as a kid.
- I have to disagree completely, I haven't felt burned myself, wish the yield of my sour bx2 was larger but wtf, the taste and potency was out the ceiling. This plant below is out of recent bogbubble seeds, yield, taste, stamina are all there, and if this doesn't smell and taste like bubble gum I guess I never chewed gum as a kid.
stagger lee
Member
I don't see people disagreeing with me, and you should be nicer. You are no scholar, pal. In fact....no, I'll just leave it at that.
Patience? You have got to be kidding me...
You have been blowing off wrong about things since you registered that handle. And a large number of people have been trying to set you straight on many issues that you obviously know nothing at all about. It took months for you to get one simple concept through your skull, and you STILL don't grasp hold well.
No, it is others that are losing patience with YOU.
With all the unfounded controversy and trouble you have caused, you should damn well care. You have caused arguments, and even people to be banned. And why? Just what have you added to this community? Not a fucking thing. Not one fucking thing.
Do you even grow pot?
All I have seen from you is your getting told things, and when you don't agree you start another thread fishing for backup.
You were having trouble making your case in the WTF fem seeds thread, to a point that people were telling you the straight about book writers and the information they provide. And you had top breeders also trying to set you straight. But instead of trying to absorb what you were getting, and increasing your knowledge, you start a thread looking for "overrated breeders/authors". I guess you thought you could get something on one of the persons that disagreed with you so you could slam them. I see no other reason for you posting that thread.
Good people have taken the fall from here with your direct involvement. YOU need to be file 13, and in my opinion you have provided absolutely NOTHING of value to this community.
Get mad if you want, but all you are doing is reinforcing the fact that you simply are here to argue about things, and have no intentions of actually learning and being a part of this community.
It's clear you have very little to offer it.
stagger lee
Member
This is a bubblegum poll thread, no?
So I get the point having read all posts now from page 1 to page 8, and can agree the Bogbubble is not the true IBL (as far as I know), and I see posting it is perhaps outside of the thread, forgive any ignorance. I respect the hunt for the real Bubblegum, I too love the strain or what I've been told is the strain. It seems at a point in time if I really wanted to know the answer of what bubblegum IBL is the best I'd just order them all and grow them. It might take less time and energy than this poll and thread. For the cost of seeds I think it would awesome if someone ordered all the bubblegum brands out there and grew them all side by side. If you can get to Indiana and meet that person who is growing something in the family for 20 years that might also be the best bet to get the real Bubblegum.
Some threads like this sometimes seem odd to me, they make it seem if you are not growing the true IBL from some breeder you've never met your wasting your time and your weed is crap. You are a lesser human or something cause you don't have teh original. You aren't getting totally stoned, it's not a true IBL. I understand the IBL and breeding, it is useful for that, but outside of that does it matter that much if you love the end product? The final say on bubblegum is that of the smoker himself. While I may grow Bogbubble and a lot of people think BOG is crap I haven't seen one person I've loaded a bowl for call it crap. How many readers and people in this poll have actually grown THSeeds, Serious, and all the other bubblegums out there? Without growing them all and the original itself how would you even know what is the true one? The only way I see is to grow them all and be your own judge, and I'm sure if you grew them all you'd get a couple nice plants even if they weren't mirror images of the original 80's bubblegum.
Outside of spinning the earth backwards and going back in time I question whether you'll ever find a true answer of the where the real bubblegum is.
Some threads like this sometimes seem odd to me, they make it seem if you are not growing the true IBL from some breeder you've never met your wasting your time and your weed is crap. You are a lesser human or something cause you don't have teh original. You aren't getting totally stoned, it's not a true IBL. I understand the IBL and breeding, it is useful for that, but outside of that does it matter that much if you love the end product? The final say on bubblegum is that of the smoker himself. While I may grow Bogbubble and a lot of people think BOG is crap I haven't seen one person I've loaded a bowl for call it crap. How many readers and people in this poll have actually grown THSeeds, Serious, and all the other bubblegums out there? Without growing them all and the original itself how would you even know what is the true one? The only way I see is to grow them all and be your own judge, and I'm sure if you grew them all you'd get a couple nice plants even if they weren't mirror images of the original 80's bubblegum.
Outside of spinning the earth backwards and going back in time I question whether you'll ever find a true answer of the where the real bubblegum is.
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THE PABLOS
....I say it's always about the end product.....regardless of titles and how it came to be. I can not get caught up in the status of such specimens....bubblegum flavors show up in all kinds of crosses. No snob for status/titles here. If it's a mutt and makes me happy....so be it.
I'm puffing some right now, I find it so relaxing.
If one had the real deal indiana bubblegum...befor it got to europe.
Found 1 bubblegum pheno out of 10 from Female Seeds. When you brush up against it it will reek of bubblegum. You have to pick for smell cuz there are some insanely frosty phenos that are not bubblegum smelling at all.
I also popped a pack of BOG's bogglegum and did not get any BG phenos. I have a reserve pack to try but I was not satisfied at all with the first. FMS was far better, every single plant. BOG's also was much more prone to mold in humid conditions but FMS would as well if not topped.
I also popped a pack of BOG's bogglegum and did not get any BG phenos. I have a reserve pack to try but I was not satisfied at all with the first. FMS was far better, every single plant. BOG's also was much more prone to mold in humid conditions but FMS would as well if not topped.
That's an endorsement that I would pay attention to. Peace 40!
how's the yield on the gum pheno?
It was actually the best lol...If I remember right it was around 1.8 ounces and could have been better if vegged taller. It was a little short but lots of tops. I was so fucking angry I did not keep the plant. It grew a little more branchy/bushy than the others when topped with nice tight buds. I cloned the super frosty plants instead of it, DOH! And it was very frosty by the way, but I had two others that were just caked and I took the bitches that were all looks and no brains!
Learned my lesson.
I got the link to my grow in my signature. I have found FMS to be the best value seed company I have come across FWIW. Can't beat xline prices either...
Something you guys may also want to consider is the Big Buddhas Bubblecheese. I know it is just a cross of cheese and bubblegum but I keep hearing the flavor and smell are out of this world. I have put it to the top of my list.
Learned my lesson.
I got the link to my grow in my signature. I have found FMS to be the best value seed company I have come across FWIW. Can't beat xline prices either...
Something you guys may also want to consider is the Big Buddhas Bubblecheese. I know it is just a cross of cheese and bubblegum but I keep hearing the flavor and smell are out of this world. I have put it to the top of my list.
