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please some advise on when to flower

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cs70

sry me again
also how often can i spray the girl with magnesium sulfate ?few times or ulimited times is ok?
thx best regards
 
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cs70

hi guys here little update

hi guys here little update

so here we go :tiphat:

the girls grow ,they are 27CM,22CM,and the droopy one is 19CM
they r 24 days old now
the droopy girls is strange droopy ,the bottom leave are not droopy only the top canopy is droopy ,i try to water her less but she was worse ,so i try to feed her from the bottom today ,i want to see how she react,i did it with my droopy girl from previous grow and she perk up after bottom feeding ,i also realized i did big mistake ,i have pain and tired and i didnt read the biobizz grow schedule correctly i gave them last few times all the nutes even the flowering ones ,i hope its not affect them much? i gave them really low mix ,not strong at all maybe thats why they feel bad ?but now 2 times i feed them with correct nutes just for grow ,EC is 1.4,i want to start to flower but they r not same height,what should i do ?wait or start flowering?
should i spray them with water or not?humidity is around 50%,should i use biobizz coat leaf ?prevention agains parasites? thrips and white flys
i feel not nice at all ,cant relax in my mind ,keep thinking about the girls
the yellowing stops i hope after i use epsom salt ,at least its not progressing ,the older leaves still looks yellow between veins
so best regards and please tell me something positive lol
thx and best regards
:5
 

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Scrogerman

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the foliar seemed to have a positive effect but it has gotton worse, so it didnt address the problem, then your nutes or medium ph etc needs sorting.
I dont use BioBizz nutes but have in the past, are you not supposed to mix the 2 like grow&bloom together, ill go & take a look for you. Im not keen on soil growing bro sorry but ill do my best to help, see easy DWC tote like mine & none of these issues ever, but that doesnt help you.
Which feed chart are you going off? can you show me mate?please
 
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cs70

hi mate i am so sad

hi mate i am so sad

hey mate yeah i know i was doing mistake i mixed all 6 kind of nute together but the 2 girls r ok ,but the droopy one gets more droopy
the ph tester and ec tester i adjusted before use ,i use hanna ec and ph meter
i didnt use them for 5 months around and didnt put solution to keep it nice ,but it seems working fine
i just saw that when i lifted up the pot of the droopy girl that there is n o soil like 3 sqare cm ,although it took me to feel up 3 pots 1 hour i wanted to fillit up nicely ,maybe its a problem ?
maybe i should repot the droopy girl?when the soil is dry out ?
i read about the airpots that if u want to keep large plants inside u need more nutes and water ,i was always scare to use too much of both ,the soil is also biobizz light mix no nutes inside so maybe i should give them full dose of nute like they say in the nutes schedule
maybe because of the all the nutes mix its stun them ?now i use proper nutes
here is the shedule u can see ,
i watered the girls yesterday 1 liter of grow nutes mix each ,i didnt saw how they do yet ,in few hours the light is going on again
thx for help mate really nice ,i am scared they die , i desperate need my medecin man
any help would be nice i read also a lot but dont see the solution
my box is also in the corner of the room ,maybe not enough fresh air? the window is open a bit
thx ain advance and best regards
 

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cs70

hi again
i checked the girls now ,2 seems good but the droopy one the pot is heavy ,does it show something?
they sill grow each get taller even the droopy one ,the tallest one is 30 CM now ,25 CM and droopy one is 21CM
i checked the underneath of the pots and all pots have some air pockets at the bottom ,so its not that
the 2 girls have more lighter pots than the droopy one ,i think i just over-water her
she dont like water ,i wait few days now without water her we see how she do
i think i start flowering in few days ,i have 50cm till the cool-tube ,cool-tube don't produce so much heat at all so i can go 45 cm easy i think
i will pinch the stems squeeze a bit gentle ,if they get out of control ,my northern lights were 80 cm tall by the harvest so i think i can manage it
i stop worry because its drive me mad ,if something happens i will start all over again i have 7 big bud feminized seeds and 10 seeds shiva skunk feminized ,so its fine , i have to cut a bit the cool-tube like this it will be in the middle ,now the cool-tube is kind of more on the left because its long version 48 cm
and also i have to put plastic everywhere inside on the walls and floor, because i spray water and its damage the MDF wood ,and have to fix the seedlings room
what light fluorescent should i get for seedlings?
my wife work so i have to play with my daughter also and pain is hard ,i think i take some pils with wine again
best regards
 

Scrogerman

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Your supposed to mix them all i think mate. like the Bio Grow x amount of mils & then add the Bio-Bloom, x amount of mls, then mix in the others, not using the Topmax untill nedded.
If your just using Bio-Grow, i think this is your problem, you need to follow the chart, read it down the page('not' left to right) & add then all into water together, one after the other. i thought i seen somewhere where BioBizz growers mixed the Grow & Bloom formula's from day 1 of veg at 2:1 & by the time they come Wk 2 of bloom its 1:2 mixed, im sure im, right. also you are correct, light warrior/lightmix your using has little to no nutes & is for young plant starts! You need to speak to other Bio_Bizz users on IC bro to confirm what im saying.
best of Luck!

theres loads of Bio-Bizz user here at IC, maybe start a help thread in the nutes section, they'll help ya. you need to mix them but need to check the ratios with other users for sure matey! ;)
 
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cs70

Your supposed to mix them all i think mate. like the Bio Grow x amount of mils & then add the Bio-Bloom, x amount of mls, then mix in the others, not using the Topmax untill nedded.
If your just using Bio-Grow, i think this is your problem, you need to follow the chart, read it down the page('not' left to right) & add then all into water together, one after the other. i thought i seen somewhere where BioBizz growers mixed the Grow & Bloom formula's from day 1 of veg at 2:1 & by the time they come Wk 2 of bloom its 1:2 mixed, im sure im, right. also you are correct, light warrior/lightmix your using has little to no nutes & is for young plant starts! You need to speak to other Bio_Bizz users on IC bro to confirm what im saying.
best of Luck!
hey mate thx for help
but if u see in the chart it say growing period u use only root juice and bio grow ,and when in flowering then i suppose to use the all the other nutes plus the bio grow ,i dont get it
anyway i wait the pots dry out really dry then i put girls in flowering 12/12 hours light shedule and give them almost full dosage of nutes like shedule say,i hope it helps
is there a section ,biobizz nutes growers?
crazy stuff i will search i put litlle one to sleep now
thx best regards:thank you:
 

Scrogerman

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I remeber reading thread on Bio-Biz & they were mixing the grow & Bloom formulas & everything else but the topmax in too, just the ratios changed 2:1 grow to bloom then 1:2 grow to bloom later in growth/bloom etc.
Check i think you'll see im right. No wonder they are hungry bro, this is why they going yellow i think man. carry on with the Mg foliar for a week after you put the nutes right bro ;)

Please check what im saying is correct because i do not use it bro, once ever, so ask someone who is familiar with the nute line!
 
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cs70

I remeber reading thread on Bio-Biz & they were mixing the grow & Bloom formulas & everything else but the topmax in too, just the ratios changed 2:1 grow to bloom then 1:2 grow to bloom later in growth/bloom etc.
Check i think you'll see im right. No wonder they are hungry bro, this is why they going yellow i think man. carry on with the Mg foliar for a week after you put the nutes right bro ;)
thanx alot man u make me feel better already ,i just follow the schedule so much and so much nutes per liter of water than i think its all gona be fine ,i hope
thx again i search forums tonight and ask few fellow biobizz users
thx and talk to u soon:thank you::tiphat:
 

Scrogerman

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Yes but dont just trust a chart, you must check what exact ratios of each to use with a seasoned user of BioBizz nutes/additives etc.
Good Luck & i think we've cracked it now, you just need to get exact ratios from other users, dont always listen to charts, they are mostly approximate/as a guide. sometimes we may use more or less than a chart may tell us to.
 
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cs70

Yes but dont just trust a chart, you must check what exact ratios of each to use with a seasoned user of BioBizz nutes/additives etc.
Good Luck & i think we've cracked it now, you just need to get exact ratios from other users, dont always listen to charts, they are mostly approximate/as a guide. sometimes we may use more or less than a chart may tell us to.


hahahha hey thx for tip i found good place here where they use only biobizz nutes ,i definitely need to put all the nutes ,the baby's r hungry man
i just need to read what the guys give them and ask some question
u r the best i would give u gold medal mate ,u were with me all the way tru
i was definitely giving too less of nutes to girls ,i wait in 2 days pots r light i give them good feeding
i will keep updating my thread so u can see how the girls do
thx again and good luck to u too my friend
i would love to smoke a big joint with u
tonight reading time soon wife come back from job so time for me lol
thx :thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you:
 

Scrogerman

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Anytime bro, i hope it all works out for you now bro!

Put a link up to the thread you have found, ill follow along, keep an eye on ya & i might learn someting about Bio-Bizz too.

Best of Luck Mate! ;)
 
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cs70

here update day 29 growing

here update day 29 growing

hi all here some update
tomorrow1st day flowering period ,i gave the girls full nutes mix i hope all go well
the leaves tips curl down a bit and get brown yellow ,not all but some ,i have no idea why ,i didnt give them too much nutes before
maybe MG deficiency
best regards
 

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Scrogerman

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I took 1 look at one photo & i know you have now cracked it, but just check that EC against what others are doing with light mix in that Wk of veg & you will be stellar, all good mate!
Hes cracked it, well done they look much much better! ;)

Keep checking the Run-off that you catch on those plates-EC & PH & write the numbers down everytime with feedings especially! Good luck!
 
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cs70

hi guys update

hi guys update

hi everybody :tiphat:
so the girls are now 32 days old and in 4th day flowering ,i gave them each 600ML feeding ,EC 1.8 ,PH 6.8
looks like they like it ,the droopy lady ,was droopy because she needed nutes ,i think because she all perk up when i gave her the nutes
the leaves still yellow a bit ,but i spray with epsom salt and algamix
the girls are now 42CM 35 CM and 33CM tall ,many branches around and leaves
should i cut of the some of the big leaves that shadow my little new leaves that come out ?
i read somewhere ppl cut some of the big leavs of like this the light penetrate better to the bottom branches
so here some pics ,enjoy and tell me what u think lol
thx best regards:thank you::tiphat:
 

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Scrogerman

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No, dont cut no leaves, maybe from the very bottom couple of nodes, take no notice of so called high yield de-fol tec bullshit bro?! at least for now!(remove all dead or mostly dead foliage by all means, its usually at the very bottom if anywhere);) are you going to top-them?

Whats the PH of your source water buddy? you already told me its 0.7EC which is ludicrus/crazy hard! the highest ive ever heard of in any book or on the web to my knowledge(tap water), are you sure of this bro?, defo go with 25% tap 75% RO imo! Does need further investigation! I can say this does not help!

Do they use cloramines or chlorine in your tap water source? ive found out how to kill the cloramines!(chlorine will dissipate anyway, chloramine will Not)
 
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cs70

hey man

hey man

No, dont cut no leaves, maybe from the very bottom couple of nodes, take no notice of so called high yield de-fol tec bullshit bro?! at least for now!(remove all dead or mostly dead foliage by all means, its usually at the very bottom if anywhere);) are you going to top-them?

Whats the PH of your source water buddy? you already told me its 0.7EC which is ludicrus/crazy hard! the highest ive ever heard of in any book or on the web to my knowledge(tap water), are you sure of this bro?, defo go with 25% tap 75% RO imo! Does need further investigation! I can say this does not help!

Do they use cloramines or chlorine in your tap water source? ive found out how to kill the cloramines!(chlorine will dissipate anyway, chloramine will Not)
hey mate
so here is the situation
my ph ORIGINALLY 8.0 ,my ec is 0.7 ,u are right the water is very hard here ,even the ppl in hydro shop told me that ,they use water from air con or bottled water ,the bottled water normal one cost too much here and cheaper water have the ec of 0.6,and water from air con i cant take because i live in 4th floor and cant get to it the water is going straight away outside
i am planning to buy RO unit ,i think for my next grow i will have it installed ,so i have to use the water from tap at the moment ,i will check the botlled water at my job ,maybe is better so i can take it and use it ,half tap half from botle if its good,i will check the water at my job today
i think thats why the plants looks yellow because of the water ,

no i dont wnt to top the plants because there are many side branches ,dont want to stress the plants ,but if water is good at job than i try to top 1 plant
ok i just cut 2 leaves dead from the very botom ,the ones that touch the ground and dead already
i dont care what they use in my water ,i cant even reach the water company ,and even if i could i cant trust them all idiots here
ok i go work now i keep u informed about water
thx for help and best regards:wave::thank you::tiphat:
 
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hey scroger
so i checked the tap water at my job and its 0.8,sucks ,so i checked the bottled water ,and its 0.5 EC ,already better so i took enough for next watering ,i will use this water for feed the plants ,at the moment ,till i get the RO unit ,which i definetly gona get soon
so here is the shit mate
talk to u soon
 

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