Marijana definition, will Blow your mind, Planet Sirius

[ZoSo]

I bet even if i showed this to some people i no who think cannabis is bad, they would read this and still turn round to me and say, "you actually believe this shit".

Yes they would.

Putting real medical knowledge about cannabis right next to mythical stories is a really bad idea.

 

[IncredibowlBoss]

All respect to Jason King, but that article was a little too speculative for my taste... The linguistic connections are interesting and definitely possible - I've read in more than a few places that cannabis comes from the hebrew 'canna basam' (aromatic cane) - maybe it all came from a common 3rd source...

 

[HempKat]

Well if you want to take it serious then a little rational thought about how interdependent marijuana is with the earth and a multitude of organisms in it the idea of marijuana being from a totally different solar system seems rather unrealistic. It just doesn't seem likely that a living organism evolved for an alien world that would most likely be under radically different influences then earth (different sun or suns, different moon or moons, etc) would be able to thrive as well as marijuana can here on earth.

Further, given that man is clearly evolved to benefit from marijuana much as we are evolved to benefit from other plants, fruits and vegtables indigenous to earth then that would lead to the conclusion that marijuana is and always has been native to earth.

That's ignoring that this whole possiblity of alien origin depends entirely on the notion that there is in fact a way to travel faster then the speed of light to make such long distance traveling even possible. We don't know that and we don't know for a fact there is any other life out there. Sure "If" those things are possible then yeah maybe marijuana did come from somewhere else but hell, pigs could fly "if" they had wings.

 

[B. Friendly]

I like'd fairy tails as a kid but now that I am grown they seem a little weak.
It's a big Universe and in my opinion the whole thing is linked,
hence MJ could be indiginous to here but still evolve on another planet
the interesting part of the story is the knowledge the dogons had of something they could not have known with limited technology
so that tells us we where more advanced in some remote past of ours than we understand, this as an explanation is reasonable as well...
anything is possible I suppose

 

[HempKat]

I like'd fairy tails as a kid but now that I am grown they seem a little weak.
It's a big Universe and in my opinion the whole thing is linked,
hence MJ could be indiginous to here but still evolve on another planet
the interesting part of the story is the knowledge the dogons had of something they could not have known with limited technology
so that tells us we where more advanced in some remote past of ours than we understand, this as an explanation is reasonable as well...
anything is possible I suppose

I don't see what fairytales have to do with it, other then the fairytale of some goddess and aquatic beings from another planet. Passed down from a race of people from a time when fairytales were how everything was explained. The supposed knowledge these people have is too tenuous to be certain they really knew something they shouldn't have been able to know. There are many examples in mythology and religion where certain things seem to add up to the truth.

Sure one can make the arguement that anything is possible because we can't possibly begin to know all there is to know given the vastness of the universe. However there's possible and probable and the distance issue alone renders this fairytale improbable.

 

[B. Friendly]

I don't see what fairytales have to do with it, other then the fairytale of some goddess and aquatic beings from another planet. Passed down from a race of people from a time when fairytales were how everything was explained. The supposed knowledge these people have is too tenuous to be certain they really knew something they shouldn't have been able to know. There are many examples in mythology and religion where certain things seem to add up to the truth.

Sure one can make the arguement that anything is possible because we can't possibly begin to know all there is to know given the vastness of the universe. However there's possible and probable and the distance issue alone renders this fairytale improbable.

if this story is not fairy tale sounding I do not know what is.
it is certainly probable that we were advanced in technology in some remote past of ours,
which is the point I was trying to make
anything possible is just a phrase that seemed to fit, not an arguement or nearly a point of reference.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Kaneh bosm is a much better suspect in my opinion... which we all know is worth what it is...

 

[HempKat]

if this story is not fairy tale sounding I do not know what is.
it is certainly probable that we were advanced in technology in some remote past of ours,
which is the point I was trying to make
anything possible is just a phrase that seemed to fit, not an arguement or nearly a point of reference.

I never said it was improbable that we were advanced in technology in some remote past, that's an assumption you made. There's alot of evidence that suggests that we were advanced in the past scattered all over the earth. I said the distance issue is improbable. Nothing from our past remote or recent proves that anyone has the ability to travel fast enough to make the trip from the solar system in question possible. Well nothing other then fairytales which shouldn't even have a bearing since you don't believe in them anymore.

 

[B. Friendly]

I never said it was improbable that we were advanced in technology in some remote past, that's an assumption you made. There's alot of evidence that suggests that we were advanced in the past scattered all over the earth. I said the distance issue is improbable. Nothing from our past remote or recent proves that anyone has the ability to travel fast enough to make the trip from the solar system in question possible. Well nothing other then fairytales which shouldn't even have a bearing since you don't believe in them anymore.

I hear ya, to reinforce your point even if we could get to the speeds needed to do these long distance trips the G Force that they would put on the human body would be to much

Here's a thought: what if we had extremely large ships filled with enough fuel to do the trip, our ships would be equipped with everything required to be a self sufficient ship. But these ships where designed to have multi generational off spring so the trip would be possible. Do the trip in many life times, as well technology with genetically engineered humans with extended life ages would help with this mission to far off regions of space.

Stephen Hawking has said if live through the next 300 years we should have spread out through the solar system and beyond that if Earth is hit by comit or whatever and is destroyed the human race will still succeed.

 

[Baba Ku]

Gforce would only be pertinent during the leaving of the Earth's atmosphere and it's gravitational force. Once into the vacuum of space, there is no counteracting force to hold back on us. Or at least none that is detectable.

Scientists have recently discovered that time can actually start to slow during lightspeed travel. Which also means time can be reversed...or at least it lends itself to that theory.

Sirius was named the Dog Star due to the fact that it was seen as the constellation Orion's hunting companion. To extrapolate that the star was named the Dog Star by the Dogon tribe is, well...its a doggone lot to buy. And when it was being coined, it wasn't in English and Dog is only a translated word.

No, this was a fun read, but all bullenshyte.

 

[HempKat]

I hear ya, to reinforce your point even if we could get to the speeds needed to do these long distance trips the G Force that they would put on the human body would be to much

Here's a thought: what if we had extremely large ships filled with enough fuel to do the trip, our ships would be equipped with everything required to be a self sufficient ship. But these ships where designed to have multi generational off spring so the trip would be possible. Do the trip in many life times, as well technology with genetically engineered humans with extended life ages would help with this mission to far off regions of space.

Stephen Hawking has said if live through the next 300 years we should have spread out through the solar system and beyond that if Earth is hit by comit or whatever and is destroyed the human race will still succeed.

Again though, those are alot of "if's" and the fuel would have to be something like they have in Star Trek where a relatively small amount of something in size and weight delivers an increbily powerful and nearly endless supply of energy. If it were based on the typical fuels we think of today the amount required to travel vast distances of space would in themselves be problematic due to the amount needed and the weight it would create.

Now if it came down to a matter of survival as Hawking suggests, then yeah maybe we would find a way and genetically alter people to make it happen. I don't see us or any aliens doing that though, just so they could drop off a plant and go home.

 

[ixnay007]

Well, a nuclear reactor would do the job just fine HK, the problem being if something goes wrong during the launch, you'll have a big problem, chernobyl style.

 

[Frozenguy]

Gforce would only be pertinent during the leaving of the Earth's atmosphere and it's gravitational force. Once into the vacuum of space, there is no counteracting force to hold back on us. Or at least none that is detectable.

Scientists have recently discovered that time can actually start to slow during lightspeed travel. Which also means time can be reversed...or at least it lends itself to that theory.

What about your chair? Because of inerita, we will always resist acceleration.

And as far as time dilation, I'm not sure on it being able to be reversed through this, you sure as hell can slow it WAY down.

The astronauts on the International Space Station age something like 0.5 seconds LESS then us here on earth, every 6 months.

Again though, those are alot of "if's" and the fuel would have to be something like they have in Star Trek where a relatively small amount of something in size and weight delivers an increbily powerful and nearly endless supply of energy. If it were based on the typical fuels we think of today the amount required to travel vast distances of space would in themselves be problematic due to the amount needed and the weight it would create.

Now if it came down to a matter of survival as Hawking suggests, then yeah maybe we would find a way and genetically alter people to make it happen. I don't see us or any aliens doing that though, just so they could drop off a plant and go home.

Helium-3!!
This stuff is about 98% cleaner than any other nuclear material we have in terms of radioactive byproduct. Its also much more powerful than what we have currently. Its rare here, but less rare on the moon. We may have to leave our planet to find materials to go even further.

 

[Sam the Caveman]

I watched Ancient Aliens the other day, and this makes a lot of sense.

 

[BigBudBill]

How is it that Cannabis is the only plant that can be found on all 7 continents,even though prohibited? Humans. And the benefits it brings to us as organisms. We have a symbiotic relationship with the plant. We help it proliferate this planet and it provides us many many benefits. I easily see this extrapolated IF space travel were possible(storing genetics on many different planets for safe keeping). I don't see space travel as a possibility at this time. Though I did watch the ancient aliens show on the history channel. Very intriguing and funny that this article was linked on here shortly after I watched that show. Definitely something to ponder.

 

[B. Friendly]

Again though, those are alot of "if's" and the fuel would have to be something like they have in Star Trek where a relatively small amount of something in size and weight delivers an increbily powerful and nearly endless supply of energy. If it were based on the typical fuels we think of today the amount required to travel vast distances of space would in themselves be problematic due to the amount needed and the weight it would create.

Now if it came down to a matter of survival as Hawking suggests, then yeah maybe we would find a way and genetically alter people to make it happen. I don't see us or any aliens doing that though, just so they could drop off a plant and go home.

And 100 years ago us having a conversation about space travel would result if I was pro and you were con to show that 100 years later who was right.

The same principal of human desire plays here.

 

[HempKat]

Well, a nuclear reactor would do the job just fine HK, the problem being if something goes wrong during the launch, you'll have a big problem, chernobyl style.

Really? I'm surprised then that it hasn't been tried. I mean if the potential of a nuclear explosion were the issue you could always have a space platform where the nuclear powered ship was launched from and just shuttle the pilots to that using more conventional propulsion.

I'll agree that nuclear power would solve the problem of having enough fuel but I'm not sure it could be used in such away as to produce propulsion that would work in space.

 

[B. Friendly]

the scientific community does not know how to propell a ship for the trip needed to get to Mars, so out of our solar system is a far off dream still, we'd have to harness some sort of space energy for lack of a better term.

 

[HempKat]

And 100 years ago us having a conversation about space travel would result if I was pro and you were con to show that 100 years later who was right.

The same principal of human desire plays here.

Irrelevent, 100 years ago some people thought the moon was made of cheese. Just because it can be imagined doesn't mean it will eventually come true. It might because to create something you have to have some concept of it first even if it's just imagined. What if it turns out there are physical limitations though, that can't be avoided or worked around? Then even though it could be imagined it's not going to come true.

Plus if some alien race had this capability to have brought marijuana here 1000's of years ago then why have we not seen them since? Obviously not because they didn't want us to know about them otherwise the dogon tribe would not have known.

 

[B. Friendly]

Irrelevent, 100 years ago some people thought the moon was made of cheese. Just because it can be imagined doesn't mean it will eventually come true. It might because to create something you have to have some concept of it first even if it's just imagined. What if it turns out there are physical limitations though, that can't be avoided or worked around? Then even though it could be imagined it's not going to come true.

Plus if some alien race had this capability to have brought marijuana here 1000's of years ago then why have we not seen them since? Obviously not because they didn't want us to know about them otherwise the dogon tribe would not have known.

yeah but you know what I was trying to say. I agree and disagree with yea,
but lets keep going I am learning a thing or two.