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Its Not a Weed!

gaiusmarius

me
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yeah it is true that weed is a derogatory term and i always try use the word cannabis, i much prefer that term to terms like marijuana. the word weed has stuck some how despite being biologically speaking incorrect.

but back to the fast growth, doesn't a weed need to grow fast to be a nuisance to man etc? seems to me we generally refer to weeds when the plants are growing where they are not wanted and when they keep regrowing and over growing the slower growing plants. also i have noted in this season of guerrilla growing that the cannabis plants do grow even faster them most surrounding weeds in nature. i chopped down nettles to make space for my cannabis plants and the cannabis plants beat the nettles growth wise. even though the nettle stumps already had a network of roots and my tinny cannabis plants were only just getting established when i put them out. i think you'll find there are not many plants that can grow such a mass as cannabis with such low amount of resources at such high speed. there are others of course, like bamboo. but even that isn't as tolerant of different climates and soils as cannabis can be.
 

Trillion

Member
Yes, overall cannabis is a hardy, fast growing plant. However fast growth doesn't make a plant a weed.

Although many plants people refer to as 'weeds' do seem to possess this trait that is because these are the 'weeds' that gardeners/farmers notice and the ones that cause problems aesthetically for gardeners and can reduce crop yield for farmers. However you can have weeds on your lawn that are low profile and slow growing, they are still weeds because they grow in an area cultivated by humans.

Weeds tend to be hardy because they are the best suited plants in their given location/climate ie without human intervention they would be the most succesful plants in their given area (but then without human intervention they stop being weeds, confusing ain't it!). I say 'tend' because any plant can be a weed, it's just that hardier plants are more likely to grow successfully in an area cultivated by humans but this is not a required trait for a plant to be considered a 'weed' because 'weed' is not a family of plants, it is more an informal horticultural identification for unwanted plants.
 

Bacchus

Throbbing Member
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It started out as a weed, probably somewhere in southern china about 5000 years ago. But in my view, around 4900 Bc, it became a garden cultivar. Not a weed


As an outdoor grower, i wish it was a weed and i wish it grew like a weed. It does neither. If you could gather up the top 100 strains of smoke, you would have 100 of the most weak, susceptable, vulnerable cultivated plants in existence in my view, and will survive the great outdoors ONLY if someone is watching over them on a very regular basis. Because of its legal status, breeders haven t had the opportunity to develop hardy, disease, drought resistant strains and outdoor growers suffer the results of that problem.

The hybrids of today, all of them, are weak, vulnerable plants that will barely survive the natural enviroment and only if they have help from man. Ive grown out dozens of strains outdoors and have yet to find one that doesnt fit into that category. Hybrid cannabis is a very tender, tedious, high maintanance plant and its a challenge to get it to thrive outdoors

You are making a good point here....

I think it is important to support those breeders who continue to inject outdoor genes into thier strains.

BTW, the LARGE mexican growers in Mexico are using lots of Dutch strains in greenhouse and outdoor enviroments with decent results.
 

jakeh

Active member
It started out as a weed, probably somewhere in southern china about 5000 years ago. But in my view, around 4900 Bc, it became a garden cultivar. Not a weed


As an outdoor grower, i wish it was a weed and i wish it grew like a weed. It does neither. If you could gather up the top 100 strains of smoke, you would have 100 of the most weak, susceptable, vulnerable cultivated plants in existence in my view, and will survive the great outdoors ONLY if someone is watching over them on a very regular basis. Because of its legal status, breeders haven t had the opportunity to develop hardy, disease, drought resistant strains and outdoor growers suffer the results of that problem.

The hybrids of today, all of them, are weak, vulnerable plants that will barely survive the natural enviroment and only if they have help from man. Ive grown out dozens of strains outdoors and have yet to find one that doesnt fit into that category. Hybrid cannabis is a very tender, tedious, high maintanance plant and its a challenge to get it to thrive outdoors

I would have to agree. I gave a 30 yr plus experience grower some northern lights seeds and he planted 50. After weeding out the males only 5 survived but those 5 were 6-8 ft tall and yielded as much as strains 10-12 feet tall he was used to growing and the market loved it. Over the years he crossed the 5 that worked in his environment with other strains that worked and has a base of genetics that work outside in his environment.
The only other thing I would add is even if it were a weed it would still get undue attention from pests. For example the last outdoor I grew was in a low lying area with hard clay. I dug out a hole and filled with store bought dirt that was suitable for the plant. Unfortunately each hole was a magnet for ants, termites and armadillos because it was looser and made better homes or places that were easy to dig and find food. The constant watering acted like a magnet to termites who destroyed much of what was not dug up by armadillos. My only saving grace was numbers and the fact that some were planted later and had a shorter window to be destroyed.
 
E

elmanito

Cannabis is a weed & a herb, but a beautiful one at the same time like some other plants such as Dandelion (Taraxacum officinalis), Stingle Nettle (Urtica dioica / urens).Both acts like weeds in a vegetable garden, but both are also very usable as a medicinal herb just like Cannabis.

A weed is just a plant which grows on a certain place where is actually unwanted.You can find wild patches of Cannabis in the Midwest (US) or in Eastern Europe.It grows as a weed over there, but could also be usable as a medicinal herb.

Nebraska ditchweed

harvesting-ditchweed.jpeg


Cannabis ruderalis Czech

konopaherb2.jpg


Cannabis-Ruderalis.jpg


Namaste :plant grow: :canabis:
 

supermanlives

Active member
Veteran
you mean i been spending all this money growing a weed? ha it might of been considered one at one time. my weed is not a weed
 

mintz

Member
Cannabis is a weed & a herb, but a beautiful one at the same time like some other plants such as Dandelion (Taraxacum officinalis), Stingle Nettle (Urtica dioica / urens).Both acts like weeds in a vegetable garden, but both are also very usable as a medicinal herb just like Cannabis.

A weed is just a plant which grows on a certain place where is actually unwanted.You can find wild patches of Cannabis in the Midwest (US) or in Eastern Europe.It grows as a weed over there, but could also be usable as a medicinal herb.

Nebraska ditchweed

harvesting-ditchweed.jpeg


Cannabis ruderalis Czech

konopaherb2.jpg


Cannabis-Ruderalis.jpg


Namaste :plant grow: :canabis:
now this fella is the only person to talk sense,a lot of clever sounding bullshit seems to be coming out of most of your mouths
 

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