ICMAG Administration endorses The Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

This is really the kick in the pants that Lee and crew went with property owners instead of people.

I'm guessing that if anything causes 19 to fail it will be this short sighted view of Cannabis freedom.

renter contracts are renter contracts there was no need to have it in prop 19.

If the rental agreement states you cannot grow then you cannot grow. That Prop 19 limits freedom to one garden per property if the property owner said so is unnecessary.

Yeah fuck property owners renting their house to strangers. What do they think this is, their house?

They wrote 19 so it would be hard for people to disagree with it...

But the anti-19 people have proven that it's not 19 they are against, it's legalization they don't want.

Jack you have been grasping at straws for a while now....

 

[BigBudBill]

im working on starting up again....

ive got a new breeding project in mind..RHB (Red Hair Bud)

remember back home in october growing up every year about fair time the old school "red hair bud" would roll into town? all neon green and red "hairs" (pistils) all over it. smelled like somebody beat a skunk to death on a pine stump scraped up the skunk tinged pine sap and put it in a sammich bag.

yeah that

Yes. I also remember some bud that was called redbud too. It was all red, even the leaves.

 

[localhero]

we used to call mexi brick red bud. red bud and green bud. the only two flavors around.

 

[JackTheGrower]

Yeah fuck property owners renting their house to strangers. What do they think this is, their house?

They wrote 19 so it would be hard for people to disagree with it...

But the anti-19 people have proven that it's not 19 they are against, it's legalization they don't want.

Jack you have been grasping at straws for a while now....

You don't understand. When you rent it is your property for the duration of the rental.

The Landlord has no right to enter without permission and all.

The second thing is this only property owners discriminates against the poor.

It is you who has turned to attack instead of reinforcing your argument.

This discontent is at mainstream media level now so beating up on me will do you no good.

And for crying out loud Prop 19 isn't legalization! It is Decriminalization.

Try not to look ignorant when you point a finger at me please.

 

[rives]

You don't understand. When you rent it is your property for the duration of the rental.

The Landlord has no right to enter without permission and all.

The second thing is this only property owners discriminates against the poor.
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I dunno. I have played some pretty ugly tricks on myself in my own house that I would want to string a renter up for. Water damage through the ceiling while doing an attic grow and a hose popped off of a pump, mold, etc. I think that a landlord should have some say in it.

 

[dagnabit]

And for crying out loud Prop 19 isn't legalization! It is Decriminalization.

Try not to look ignorant when you point a finger at me please.

sorry bub..

legal cultivation
legal possession
legal use
legal protection from workplace discrimination
legal protection from probable cause abuse
a path to legal distribution.

your orwellian tactic of rebranding holds no water.

and NO my home is not my tenant's for "the duration" alease grants them LIMITED rights to MY property. the lease is the defining document as to the extent of the rights and responsibilities of the tenant for the duration of the agreement. based on the federal governments misuse of both the r.i.c.o. act and the u.s.a.p.a.t.r.i.o.t. act and the existence of the r.a.v.e. act i would NEVER allow a tenant to grow in a home i own.
i made that mistake once......

no sir eviction proceedings would proceed without delay if i even suspected.
voiding my homeowners insurance,bringing heat down on me...mutter mutter....


GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!!!


damn kids with their hippity hop music and pants half off their asses......

 

[vta]

damn kids with their hippity hop music and pants half off their asses......

Looking like a fool with your pants on the ground

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

You don't understand. When you rent it is your property for the duration of the rental.

The Landlord has no right to enter without permission and all.

The second thing is this only property owners discriminates against the poor.

It is you who has turned to attack instead of reinforcing your argument.

This discontent is at mainstream media level now so beating up on me will do you no good.

And for crying out loud Prop 19 isn't legalization! It is Decriminalization.

Try not to look ignorant when you point a finger at me please.

You can say all you like, but growing indoors can cause ALOT of problems, I've been around far too long to fool myself into thinking otherwise....

 

[JackTheGrower]

Wow Just try to have a garden larger than 5x5 and you will see how legal it is.

The Discriminating on the Poor you guys can't touch.

On the growing indoors? Who would spend the money if they can grow outside? Not me.

So like I said it's gone mainstream media.. Sitting around here posting does no good.. Get out there and post on those newspaper sites like I do.

I know full well the difference between True Legalization and Prop 19. There is no way for me to change the fanatical on a mission if they cannot change themselves.

You guys did notice the new Felonies yes? Legalization wouldn't do that.

 

[JackTheGrower]

I dunno. I have played some pretty ugly tricks on myself in my own house that I would want to string a renter up for. Water damage through the ceiling while doing an attic grow and a hose popped off of a pump, mold, etc. I think that a landlord should have some say in it.

They already do it's called a Rental Agreement!

 

[JackTheGrower]

sorry bub..

legal cultivation
legal possession
legal use
legal protection from workplace discrimination
legal protection from probable cause abuse
a path to legal distribution.

your orwellian tactic of rebranding holds no water.

and NO my home is not my tenant's for "the duration" alease grants them LIMITED rights to MY property. the lease is the defining document as to the extent of the rights and responsibilities of the tenant for the duration of the agreement. based on the federal governments misuse of both the r.i.c.o. act and the u.s.a.p.a.t.r.i.o.t. act and the existence of the r.a.v.e. act i would NEVER allow a tenant to grow in a home i own.
i made that mistake once......

no sir eviction proceedings would proceed without delay if i even suspected.
voiding my homeowners insurance,bringing heat down on me...mutter mutter....


GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!!!


damn kids with their hippity hop music and pants half off their asses......

All this is covered with the Rental/Lease contract. There was no need to have it in Prop 19.

By Prop 19 having this in it it targeted the poor for discrimination.

As for workplace discrimination being over with.. I doubt it.

So Fine guys are we now at the point where folks bringing a contrasting opinion to the discussion gives the gang the rights to beat up on those who dare confront?

Do any of you have a Vote Buddy?

Have any of you volunteered to register folks to vote ?

Do something in reality to aid your cause.

 

[JackTheGrower]

You can say all you like, but growing indoors can cause ALOT of problems, I've been around far too long to fool myself into thinking otherwise....

Then put outdoor garden only in your contract!

 

[Kalicokitty]

By Prop 19 having this in it it targeted the poor for discrimination.

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So now you're voting no because it discriminates against the poor in your opinion????

You're really reaching now.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

Targets the poor? I've rented houses pretty much my entire life and grown at ALL of them. At least with 19 you MIGHT get evicted, but you won't get arrested.

What new felonies does 19 bring? Furnishing mj to minors? It's the same for alocohol and tobacco....

 

[Kalicokitty]

Targets the poor? I've rented houses pretty much my entire life and grown at ALL of them. At least with 19 you MIGHT get evicted, but you won't get arrested.

What new felonies does 19 bring? Furnishing mj to minors? It's the same for alocohol and tobacco....

Same here, rental property every time.
I'll take evicted over arrested any day.

 

[GanjaAL]

Wow.... the feds are gearing up baby. Just in time for prop 19. No one is going to be safe, however their priority will be rec smokers and their outlets. MMJ will be on the back burner as per the commander and chiefs directive. Prop19 playing with the big boys... federal pen vs jail time. I sure hope you guys know what you are doing and like I said... this is the main reason I am voting no... it will not keep people out of jail and with pro19 passing soon it will be like shooting fish in a barrel.

One month after MPP and an ideologically diverse coalition of drug policy reformers and advocacy groups called on President Obama to withdraw Michele Leonhart as his nominee for DEA administrator, a spokesperson for the White House has declared that the president is confident that the Bush holdover is the “right” choice for the job.

Mike Riggs has the story in The Daily Caller:

Obama is confident that Leonhart is the right choice, the White House staffer said, and that as of Friday the president wasn’t considering anyone else for the position. In other words, the response from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. to a chorus of concerns boils down to: Leonhart or bust.

MPP and others – including FireDogLake’s Jane Hamsher and the states-rights group the Tenth Amendment Center – pointed to Leonhart’s interim leadership of the DEA, which has included federal raids on state-legal medical marijuana providers and the denial of medical marijuana research applications, as evidence that she is continuing Bush-era policies that Obama promised to end. During the campaign, and in an October memo from the Department of Justice, the president and his administration pledged to end federal raids on state-legal medical marijuana providers.

But when Riggs asked the feds whether recent raids in California violate the spirit of the October memo, spokespeople for both the White House and DOJ seemed to backtrack on the president’s pledge.

But the White House and the Justice Department both told TheDC that Holder’s memo does not give dispensaries carte blanche to grow or sell marijuana, and that recent raids don’t conflict with what Obama expressed while campaigning.
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“I wouldn’t say the memo ‘discourages’ certain raids,” a DOJ offical told TheDC. Rather, “it talks about prioritizing resources most efficiently.” And both the White House and the DOJ argued that the gist of the Holder memo was that the DEA would “not focus its limited resources on individual patients with cancer or other serious diseases.”

One can’t help but wonder, with the nomination of Leonhart, the ongoing raids, and this type of public about-face on the issue, if President Obama is now reneging on his campaign pledge to approach medical marijuana issues differently than his predecessor.

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs thinks it’s absurd to even suggest such a thing. “I hear these people saying he’s like George Bush,” Gibbs said recently. “Those people ought to be drug tested. I mean, it’s crazy.”

Crazy is exactly right, Mr. Gibbs. I mean, it’s not like President Obama picked the same person George W. Bush did to lead the DEA, and has insisted on standing by her while she employs the same policies that were in place under Bush. Oh wait …

 

[BigBudBill]

They will have to answer for their actions come election time. The tide is turning and politicians that know better are finally starting to talk about it. Just as they are gearing up, so are the lawyers on this side. Money to made in court cases, fame to be had. We dont lose against the Feds all the time.

 

[GanjaAL]

Yup but before all is said and done... peoples lives will be ruined in the process. I guess that is ok for some... but not from me. It is one thing to get busted at the state level but it is another to get busted at the federal level and many will before anything is done about it as the federal government will try and make an example out of people. Remember... like I said before the way this is writen... it will not stop arressts and will further incarceration. I thought it would only be at the state level but it looks like it will be at the federal level. I guess there is bound to be casualties but it looks like it is going to be at a heavy cost as federal offenses are no joke.

 

[dagnabit]

Yup but before all is said and done... peoples lives will be ruined in the process. I guess that is ok for some... but not from me.

be grateful that their are real soldiers willing to make that sacrifice FOR you....
you sound almost proud of your cowardice here?

It is one thing to get busted at the state level but it is another to get busted at the federal level and many will before anything is done about it as the federal government will try and make an example out of people.

ill take fed time over state any day.. fed starts drug offenders at medium facilities and reduces them to low in 6 months with no CAs.

not the case with state..

Remember... like I said before the way this is writen... it will not stop arressts and will further incarceration. I thought it would only be at the state level but it looks like it will be at the federal level. I guess there is bound to be casualties but it looks like it is going to be at a heavy cost as federal offenses are no joke.

you know what is a joke....

voting to continue prohibition
lying about this prop
("it will not stop arressts and will further incarceration." these are two blatant LIES you have been propagating over and over without any substantiation.)
hating on the true soldiers risking their "lives" for your freedom(richard lee)



and the funniest joke of all....

 

[JackTheGrower]

You can say all you like, but growing indoors can cause ALOT of problems, I've been around far too long to fool myself into thinking otherwise....

So you are against people growing Pot..

Wow..