Lemelemeleme Upgrade, A story of young ladies sharing a room

[Hydrosun]

Dungeon V3.0

Dungeon V3.0

My best plants have been done in 5 gal buckets with 10" net pots (Rapid Rooter, Rock Wool, Hydroton), and large support stakes.

So V3.0 is double 5gal bucket on bucket with 2 nice airstones per setup (one in the orange bucket and on in the black).

There are 6 PK under the 4 Magnum hoods. Screens will go in later. They are going to veg in the Dungeon.

Because my largest plants in the past were under 750w ballasts, I have set my lights to 75%.

Right now I have 2 blue lights going 24/7 and one red light kicking 12/12 in the Dungeon.

The special snorkel makes it really easy to drain the buckets. I think I'll change them once a week and hand feed and adjust them daily.

Well I hope this is going to be a nice show.

 

[Hammerhead]

looks good brother. I m going to setup something similar. I'm liking this style of growing. Never done it but I'm going to give it a go. I'm going to start off with a 6 bucket setup and go from there.

 

[MIGHTYMITE]

finally a good use for the undercurrent ///

nice work HS looks like your staked up and ready for some trees ..6 PK under four 750 's should rock ,,that LVPKcut grows better under less light
always catch that weight in the lower nugs///
,,wowsers

 

[irobot sd]

I'm a little late on this but this thread schooled me on the biozone and the 20 gal bubble bags. Getting both have only made things better! Question ? Do you worry about the blue uv light as a "light leak" during lights out the box glows blue a little. Had a few horns around week 8 off SD but no big deal. New buckets look real nice HS setting trends

 

[Hydrosun]

I'm a little late on this but this thread schooled me on the biozone and the 20 gal bubble bags. Getting both have only made things better! Question ? Do you worry about the blue uv light as a "light leak" during lights out the box glows blue a little. Had a few horns around week 8 off SD but no big deal. New buckets look real nice HS setting trends

My BioZones are not in the grow room but other parts of the house. Welcome my friend to the show that never ends, come inside come inside

 

[Hammerhead]

have u always used this methode Hydro? what is your typical yield of 1 bucket

 

[alflud]

Still kicking ass HS. I've been neglecting ICMAG for the past while, dealing with some other stuff, but man - sure is good to see the PK ladies getting pimped for all their worth by your good self Glad to be back and in time to keep up with this latest grow. Must say I'd a good laugh seeing those UC buckets beat down like that Way to make a statement man

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

finally a good use for the undercurrent ///

nice work HS looks like your staked up and ready for some trees ..6 PK under four 750 's should rock ,,that LVPKcut grows better under less light
always catch that weight in the lower nugs///
,,wowsers

odd yet true. this strain is a growers dream.

 

[Hammerhead]

I have been told PK is very easy to grow.

 

[GeorgeSmiley]

I have been told PK is very easy to grow.

The shit grows itself. Idiots weed is right because I can't hurt the shit., I make a mistake and the other strains start looking like shit and this on just sits there showing barely a sign that anything was wrong.

The LVPK said fuck you, to the aphids and bounced back,

8 in the morning and still feel asleep from the Kush binge last night.

The dungeon's looking bananas HS, truly amazing.




Smiley

 

[Hydrosun]

have u always used this methode Hydro? what is your typical yield of 1 bucket

5 Gallon buckets have been my mainstay. Before I found ICmag I ran them for 5 years. My typical plants in the 5 gals are 8 - 16oz and average a little over 12oz.

I've kicked the light down to 750w on my flower bulbs to try to get back towards the 16oz per plant I was getting a year ago.

 

[opt1c]

everyone i know up north is in love with the 750s... seems so specialized and a real bitch to source replacement bulbs for but that is probably because none of my local hydro stores carry em

hydrosun; got any random pics of the setup at the moment? u running ucs? 5gals? brutes? whats up this round? fwiw i'm doing coco handwatered 40 3gal containers all different strains and phenotypes... got some la cons vegging in uc single site bucket quadtops waiting to rock the 6xl once my main room is free; hada to get a portable ac to cool a tent for more growing area in summer; whatever it takes eh

 

[Hydrosun]

everyone i know up north is in love with the 750s... seems so specialized and a real bitch to source replacement bulbs for but that is probably because none of my local hydro stores carry em

hydrosun; got any random pics of the setup at the moment? u running ucs? 5gals? brutes? whats up this round? fwiw i'm doing coco handwatered 40 3gal containers all different strains and phenotypes... got some la cons vegging in uc single site bucket quadtops waiting to rock the 6xl once my main room is free; hada to get a portable ac to cool a tent for more growing area in summer; whatever it takes eh

The set up is on the previous page, running doubled up 5 gal buckets. In the past I had them all connect to a single res, now I have them each solo and hand feed daily.

I use the my standard 1Kw Ushio bulbs, but I turned the Lumatek ballasts down to 750. My older pre ICmag ballasts were Lumatek 750s but they had no trouble firing the Ushio 1Kw bulbs. I really like these bulbs and ballasts.

I have to say that some of the best weed I've smoked has been grown in coco. I've not grown with it myself, but the taste and yields reported here on IC are well worth looking into coco.

I had problems with the Brutes because the airstones sank to the bottom and didn't have enough pressure to get bubbles out. I want to give the brutes a try again, but this time I'll drop a 5gal through the lid of the Brute and keep the airstone in the 5gal. Well that is another adventure for another time.

 

[opt1c]

ditch the airstones and run open lines; just got to weigh em down or mount em to the sides of the cans... thanks for the pic clarification... wasn't sure if that was a new or side area or what but i'm faded

750 switchable is crazy; i got the switchable galaxy but 750 is not an option on the dial

i like coco for moms and handwatering really; i've found too much variation in root growth from plant to plant as they're establishing themselves to water all the same amount with an automated system although plenty of people rock coco with automated systems

since i was doing a seed run i figured i'd do it all in coco so it'd be easy to feed em different as they matured depending on flowering time... it also lets me play with beneficial bacteria; fulvic acid; and carbs which i'm not able to do with my rdwc setups

 

[Hammerhead]

what is more forgiving coco or Hydroton. I have read that coco wont let you make mistakes. Since I will be starting out as a newbie on this style of growing im going with Hydroton.


Hydro you just hand water and let that bubble for 24hrs and then u change out all of the buckets to new nutrients? wha does a 6 bucket setup like that run. I have looked and im looking at 2k with a chiller.

 

[opt1c]

depends; hydroton i'd go with a recirculating system... coco would be more of a drain to waste or hand watering type thing for a beginner... i really think coco is forgiving; you can flush it no problem long as you have drainage and as a medium it doesn't hold anything nute related so u can really clean it out... coco is cool cuz u can keep plants, like moms, in it forever and not really trip about the roots

hydroton needs to be watered much more frequently than coco, water temps are more important with hydroton as far as root rot goes; growth will be faster than coco... i will say that the balls r a bitch to clean especially that first time; i use a window screen in the sink to keep em from going in the drain and just rinse the crap outa em; seems to work... just hate to think about what working with it in large quantities would b like... coco u can break down in the backyard if you don't reuse it

both mediums can be reused and have their pro/cons but in my opinion hydroton is best for holding plants in netpots over large bodies of water i'm sure hydrosun will agree on that note

 

[Hammerhead]

I use muriatic acid to clean of the hydroton. Makes cleaning a breeze. You can find this stuff at your pool supply store. I used this stuff to clean my pumps and hardware that was in my Saltwater Aquarium. So there no worry about contaminating your medium. Make sure to give a good rinse when done.

 

[Hydrosun]

what is more forgiving coco or Hydroton. I have read that coco wont let you make mistakes. Since I will be starting out as a newbie on this style of growing im going with Hydroton.


Hydro you just hand water and let that bubble for 24hrs and then u change out all of the buckets to new nutrients? wha does a 6 bucket setup like that run. I have looked and im looking at 2k with a chiller.

I've never used the coco and the per bucket cost has me a little hesitant, not the cheapest medium out there.

The buckets are about $10 ($6 for black $4 for orange), the snorkles are $9, Big Boss Hog $65 (split apart and use 1/2 in each bucket), nice caster $35 (optional), net pot $3, Stakes $9. A fully pimped out bucket is $131 and can be used several times a year.

I no longer use res chillers, they run way too hot use too much elec and the PK seems fine without them. I have a nice airpump driving all 12 stones in the 6 units.

Variable / consumption expenses are $1 Rockwool, $9 Hydroton, $?? nutes.

The babies are still really young so the got feed the 5gals when they went in and I've just adjusted the PH once a day for the last few days.

When they start drinking more, I'll refill them with my standard nute mix daily and ph daily. Once a week I'll drain the bucket with the valve and replace with a full new fresh 5gal.

 

[OC80]

Whoever said coco is less forgiving than hydroton(hydro) has probably never used both mediums. I just switched from dwc to coco, and the ease of use is incredible. Ive left them to sit with no care for about a week. Have fun trying that with dwc.

Coco is the shit, plain and simple. Especially if you dont listen to internet smart guys that tell you, you cant over water coco...

 

[whadeezlrg]

...but the coco takes off like crazy with daily waterings of only the amount it would use, its about keeping a consistent air to water/nutrient ratio, plus burning/lockouts and deficiencies are a lot more likely to happen in drier coco, although I have no hydroton basis of comparison atm, I know the coco at my casa likes to stay moist, a bag of bcuzz @ $25 a bag is roughly 12 gallons of medium along with a $3.50 pot....so figure around $28 for pots of coco large enough to produce 12+oz HS style trees, cost of growing a year in coco sounds really close to the cost of an hs bucket somewhere around $150-160 a year for medium/containers per plant in a tree type setup...also a bit of ph fluctuation in coco really hasn't showed me a whole lot of negative side effects, so long as it generally tends to stay within the 5.5-6.5 range, although I tend to keep it between 5.5 and 6.0