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Growers are just saying NO to pot legalization
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Haha good one but I doubt that, the police want it passed. Why? So they can keep their jobs! If 19 is passed, the tax dollars from marijuana sales are going to pay their salaries. Yup, the same cop arresting you for "carrying over an ounce" is paying his mortgage with the tax dollars you paid to purchase that bag.
CaptainTrips
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Prop 19 doesn't legalize sales, and tax dollars are only going to happen on a limited basis... And there is going to be a loss of federal dollars if 19 passes, certainly the police don't want that to happen.
You might want to do some research. Most cops and DA's have already stated publicly they're against this Bill.... So not to be an asshole, I'm betting if you contacted your local DA or Sheriff, they very well might set you up with some signs or some kind of volunteer work getting the word out........
Lol ok JJ you got me, posting signs was a sarcastic joke. And regardless if police want it passed or not, it will be paying at least a portion of their salaries. I understand that legalization has to start somewhere, I just do not like the way this bill is written and I don't think it's such a good idea to take the first chance we (yes WE all love this plant) get. Either way, before it is fully legalized anywhere, it will need to be de-criminalized on the Federal level. So IF or WHEN 19 passes, it's still not going to be recognized federally.
So don't carry over an ounce and vote YES to help change Cannabis laws worldwide.
You will have to admit that a hell of a lot of prohibitionists and LEO have joined the collation to stop Prop 19? Are they really your buddies? "Public Safety First"
http://www.noonproposition19.com/
http://www.noonproposition19.com/endorsements/display
http://www.calmca.org/category/public-safety/
-SamS
You will have to admit that a hell of a lot of prohibitionists and LEO have joined the collation to stop Prop 19? Are they really your buddies? "Public Safety First"
http://www.noonproposition19.com/
http://www.noonproposition19.com/endorsements/display
http://www.calmca.org/category/public-safety/
-SamS
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You may know a few individual GOP'ers in favor but the party apparatus and far right lobbying groups ARE working very hard to beat this down.
http://www.noonproposition19.com/
That group is run by this lobbying company:
The Wayne Johnson Agency
They run GOP campaigns and right wing initiatives.
So we are clear about who the opposition is....
How many chances do you want?
How many chances do you think you will get?
Legislation/initiatives cost lots of money.
Cannabis rights will only grow with political momentum.
Look at Prop 8.
They had their rights and then lost them.
The gay community has lost years in the advance of their civil rights because of the momentum lost to Prop 8 because of complacence to the issue.
This bears repeating but the far right in CA wants to repeal 215. That is public knowledge.
If 'the majority" vote against cannabis rights the Far Right's case is made for them.
"The people are against it - like they don't want gay marriage, the GOP pundits will say.
Beggars can't be choosers my momma used to say.
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
I didn't live in CA in 96.
This is the only time in my life I've been offered to pull a lever for cannabis sanity.
I'm not going to blow that one chance on a prayer that a "better bill" will magically appear.
Like SB420 followed 215 so will the better bill follow a SUCCESSFUL Prop 19.
A failed Prop 19 gets nothing....nothing but trouble for the cannabis community.
Vote Yes on Prop 19.
That is an incorrect statement.
READ THE F'N BILL correctly.
Maybe this whole thread too.
You get to grow all you can in your 5x5.
a pound?
fine.
You can only carry a OZ if you go driving around town.
They are two different reg's within the bill.
Seriously, is some of this just intentional ignorance with an agenda to mislead?
GEEEZ.
CaptainTrips
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Unless you live in a dry county and they decide you've been deriving income off that pound...
move.
CaptainTrips
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Lol, not gonna move over a bad proposition that has little chance of passing anyway... They should have never granted such power to local governments. They should have just said no sales and granted the state government to enact commerce, not the even more corrupt local counsils...
something i was just thinking about....irony....right now its legal medically...but no medical applications are being looked at outside of rick simpson and a few others....once legal status is attained, maybe then not only will we start seriously looking at med applications, but maybe even the herb in the fake 'medical dispensaries will improve!
If 19 passes and you become complient by getting a business license and start paying taxes on the sale of a controlled substance, a schedule 1 controlled substance and start signing tax returns attesting to that fact you'd better confer with a criminal attorney first before doing so. Let him tell you just what can transpire and just how much it will cost you in time and money so that you can be prepared for the worst that can happen. For one hour of a good attornies time might be $500 but it will be the best money you've ever spent. As a defendant in a Federal trial, your expense's will be at least $20,000 and that is if you plead out. Why would you ever put yourself and others in this position? Your signing tax documents under penalty of perjury, you can not plead innocent at that point. Do yourself a favor and ask an attorney if you should become 19 legal and put your future in jeoprody of fines, incarceration and attorney fee's? It sounds more like a trap by the trial lawyers association than anything else as they are the one who will make the big money.
Some good advise here. Anyone starting any company should have at least one if not two attorneys. Though, we need to pass prop 19. Yes the battle is not over, but this will be the second big step toward the greater good. No doubt lots of lawsuits to come after this passes. Things are going to need to shake out.
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CheifnBud2
If its legal Growers can grow more.
Therefore price will go down.
Deal with it. Sorry if you dont like it, LETS LEGALIZE.
Therefore price will go down.
Deal with it. Sorry if you dont like it, LETS LEGALIZE.
havent read this thread in a while. It brought out all kinds of emotions. I laughed alot, winced a couple times, then someone said what happens if Sarah Palin gets elected. that scared the crap out of me. all i know is that i am learning alot so when it comes to my state i hope i fight the right fight. if that Grizzley gets elected im moving to Canada.
MoldyFrogToe
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Endorsements - No On Prop 19
Check out those who oppose Proposition 19.
Gary Haskin ( Councilmember , City of Escalon )
City of Covina
City of Escalon
Kerry Condon ( President , Anaheim Police Association )
Anaheim Police Association
Diane Hargis ( Fraud Investigator , Vacaville Police Department )
Carmelita Garcia ( Mayor , CIty of Pacific Grove )
Bill Gore ( Sheriff , San Diego County )
Dean Flippo ( District Attorney , Monterey County )
Orange County Coalition of Police and Sheriffs
Association of California School Administrators
City of Fontana
William Bowen ( Police Chief , Rio Vista Police Department )
Das Williams ( Councilmember , City of Santa Barbara )
Joseph McKeown ( Retired Police Chief )
City of Half Moon Bay
Stanley Henry ( Police Chief , Cathedral City Police Department )
Virginia Black ( Retired Sheriff , Yuba County )
Clay Parker ( Sheriff , Tehama County )
Bill Cogbill ( Sheriff , Sonoma County )
Gary Stanton ( Sheriff , Solano County )
Rick Riggins ( Sheriff , Siskiyou County )
John Evans ( Sheriff , Sierra County )
Tom Bosenko ( Sheriff , Shasta County )
Steve Moore ( Sheriff , San Joaquin County )
Curtis Hill ( Sheriff , San Benito County )
Edward Bonner ( Sheriff , Placer County )
Sandra Hutchens ( Sheriff , Orange County )
Doug Koford ( Sheriff , Napa County )
Mike Kanalakis ( Sheriff , Monterey County )
Rick Scholl ( Sheriff , Mono County )
Tom Sawyer ( Retired Sheriff , Merced County )
Tom Allman ( Sheriff , Mendocino County )
John Anderson ( Sheriff , Madera County )
Steven Warren ( Sheriff , Lassen County )
Bill Lutze ( Sheriff , Inyo County )
Warren Rupf ( Sheriff , Contra Costa County )
Martin Ryan ( Sheriff , Amador County )
John Crombach ( Police Chief , Oxnard Police Department )
James Anderson ( Police Chief , Placentia Police Department )
Tom Chapman ( Police Chief , Arcata Police Department )
Lisa Solomon ( Police Chief , Paso Robles Police Department )
Jacqueline Seabrooks ( Police Chief , Inglewood Police Department )
Mario Krstic ( Police Chief , Farmersville Police Department )
Patrick McGrath ( District Attorney , Yuba County )
Louis Fetherolf ( Police Chief , Salinas Police Department )
Michael Ramsey ( District Attorney , Butte County )
Jim Copsey ( Police Chief , Grover Beach Police Department )
William Olson ( Commander , Placer Special Investigation Unit )
John Schaefer ( Police Chief , San Marino Police Department )
David Lawton ( Police Chief , San Gabriel Police Department )
Thomas Sonoff ( Police Chief , Signal Hill Police Department )
Brian Bowles ( Police Chief , Yreka Police Department )
Paul Cooper ( Police Chief , Claremont Police Department )
Robert Sanderson ( Police Chief , Arcadia Police Department )
Michael McCrary ( Police Chief , Wheatland Police Department )
Steve Smith ( Police Chief , Blythe Police Department )
Joel Bryden ( Police Chief , Walnut Creek Police Department )
James Shaw ( Police Chief , Escalon Police Department )
Stephen Lodge ( Police Chief , Santa Clara Police Department )
Brian Klier ( Interim Police Chief , Sutter Creek Police Department )
Ronald DePompa ( Police Chief , Glendale Police Department )
Mark Siemens ( Police Chief , Rocklin Police Department )
Carlos Mestas ( Police Chief , Hanford Police Department )
Phil Green ( Police Chief , Twin Cities Police Authority )
Peter Hansen ( Police Chief , Redding Police Department )
Kim Raney ( Police Chief , Covina Police Department )
Charlie Parsons ( President/CEO, D.A.R.E. America )
D.A.R.E. America
Los Angeles County Police Chiefs Association
U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein
Atwater Village Chamber of Commerce
Steve Cooley ( District Attorney , Los Angeles County )
California College, Career and Technical Education Charter School
California Chamber of Commerce
Paul Chabot ( Founder, Coalition for a Drug Free California )
Inland Valley Drug Free Community Coalition
CIA Investigation Academy
Coalition for a Drug-Free California
Jacqueline Jackson ( Deputy District Attorney , Riverside County )
Californians for Drug Free Youth
Dana Stevens ( Public Health Advocate )
Dolores Carr ( District Attorney , Santa Clara County )
Loretta Adarne ( Program Coordinator )
Linda Ledesma ( Juvenile Justice Coordinator )
Ken Strang ( Pharmacist , San Diego )
San Dieguito Alliance
Protect Our Society
Jim Provenza ( Commissioner, Oceanside Police and Fire Commission )
Gary Philp ( Sheriff , Humboldt County )
Peace Officers Association of Los Angeles County
Erica Leary ( Oceanside, CA )
David Paulson ( District Attorney , Solano County )
J. Kirk Andrus ( District Attorney , Siskiyou County )
Lorrac Craig ( Sheriff , Trinity County )
Debbie Obregon ( Oceanside, CA )
Maria Russell ( Oceanside, CA )
North Coastal Prevention Coalition
California District Attorneys Association
Rod Hoops ( Sheriff , San Bernardino County )
Gary Lieberstein ( District Attorney , Napa County )
Phillip Cline ( District Attorney , Tulare County )
Manfred Kollar ( Sheriff , El Dorado County )
CALM
California Association of Code Enforcement Officers
California Narcotic Officers' Association
Bradford Fenocchio ( District Attorney , Placer County )
Margaret Mims ( Sheriff , Fresno County )
Bill Brown ( Sheriff , Santa Barbara County )
California State Sheriffs' Association
Michael Harper ( District Attorney , Trinity County )
Birgit Fladager ( District Attorney , Stanislaus County )
Adam Christianson ( Sheriff , Stanislaus County )
E. G. Prieto ( Sheriff , Yolo County )
Scott Marshall ( Sheriff , Colusa County )
Jim & Carol Long ( Retired Special Investigator , Madera County )
Jan Scully ( District Attorney , Sacramento County )
Elizabeth Egan ( District Attorney , Fresno County )
Bishop, Dr. Ron Allen
Robert Brown ( District Attorney , Mariposa County )
Robert Holzapfel ( District Attorney , Glenn County )
Dwayne Stewart ( Assistant District Attorney , Glenn County )
Dennis Downum ( Sheriff , Calaveras County )
Donny Youngblood ( Sheriff , Kern County )
Arthur Maillet ( District Attorney , Inyo County )
James Fox ( District Attorney , San Mateo County )
Robert Kochly ( District Attorney , Contra Costa County )
Gilbert Otero ( District Attorney , Imperial County )
Todd Riebe ( District Attorney , Amador County )
Gregory Totten ( District Attorney , Ventura County )
Michael Ramos ( District Attorney , San Bernardino County )
George Booth ( District Attorney , Mono County )
PRIDE-Omaha, Inc.
Cliff Newell ( District Attorney , Nevada County )
J. Paul Parker ( Sheriff , Sutter County )
California District Attorney Investigators' Association
Keith Royal ( Sheriff , Nevada County )
John Poyner ( District Attorney , Colusa County )
Gregory Ahern ( Sheriff , Alameda County )
Gerald Benito ( District Attorney , Shasta County )
Steven Durfor ( Sheriff , Yuba County )
Brian Muller ( Sheriff , Mariposa County )
Barbara Gordon
Shaun Keating ( Author )
Jeff Reisig ( District Attorney , Yolo County )
Save Our Society from Drugs
Mothers Against Drunk Driving
International Faith Based Coalition
CoachAmerica
California Police Chiefs Association
California Peace Officer’s Association ( John Standish, President )
California Correctional Supervisors Organization
California Bus Association
Nate Holden ( California State Senate, retired; Los Angeles City Council, retired )
Alexandra Datig
Bonnie Dumanis ( District Attorney, San Diego County )
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