feminized plant used for making seed

[Dalaihempy]

Mate you can dance around it all you like reality is such a bitch a bit like the way you conduct your self in these forums.

I am running a test on s1 seeds i made there not chemically turned fem seeds i will give you that but they are s1 seeds and all female and you know my findings are far from what you and your alleged text books tell me so give me a reason and explanation to why these s1 seeds are lacking so much vigor when the f2s made by the same female using a selected brother to x with her had explosive growth a vigor in veg and flower but you cant can you because your so full of it just maybe the male plant is a lot more impotent to the species than you even know or are willing to admit.

I have pictures i am not hear to talk shit and you know what hoosierdaddy i am so sick of your attitude towards every one in this site that does not bow down to you or your vues my advice to you is to gain an understanding of things you need to keep an open mind and know what your in fact talking about i don't claim to be any type of expert but i sure can tell many that do pretend to be experts are so full of it that they believe there own bull shit a bit like you.

Common Mr expert explane it to me and every one reading this post why are the s1 seeds expressing such a loss in vigor yet the f2s did not.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Simple, the S1 had half as much genetic material to work with as your F2's did.

Hempy, you do understand the difference between a S1 and a R1, yes?

And also let me get this straight...I am a bitch that doesn't conduct themselves properly in the forums. You are sick of me and I do not have an open mind. Also, I pretend to be an expert that is full of shit.
For the pertinent parts of this thread I will debate and discuss this with you all you want, but on the topic of my demeanor.....basically you can jump the fuck off, dipshit. You are a nasty individual with far more posts completely deleted than most. In fact, it is YOU that throws down the nasty hammer (and not much more) when ever you are challenged.
Bring the substance of the issue, because you are fucking with the wrong person when it comes to the personal attack thing. I suspect your comprehension of this whole thing to be on par with your command of the English language.

 

[cannaboy]

Hoosierdaddy what you know isn't worth knowing nor teaching and could fit on a 1st class stamp, I am impressed that you love to read so do many humans some see the words some understand them!!!

personal experience and oppinions are what got the books we read,, I am for that,, R U..

Or do you want it to be as you discribed,,

Rather than cuss aman down for his input try find some propper findings that back up what you keep saying cos its well boring!!!

What isnt in this thread is how to make propper seeds,, fem or regular..
R1's arn't great but usefull when it goes to shit,, I mean hetrosis which is the most desireable trait isnt available through inbread feminized matings because or the re shuffel and re combination you will find more mish mash.. and to self 2 diverse females can make a stable line is obsured there will be good plants but only to those that havn't seen good genetic makeup or a good pheno, The Y is needed.. You only get if if your making fem seeds badly.. and this is not the use for that technice just some wasters way of looking big and clever. I'll pepsi challange fem v's regular weel send them to ESBE and see what he thinks,, the regular has more potentioal than R or S 1 because the build up of the plant matireal is what were looking for just with 1 or 2 matches that create varience in phenotype the 0.1% usually unsurpassable,,

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Hoosierdaddy what you know isn't worth knowing nor teaching and could fit on a 1st class stamp

Sod off, wankmaster. (that is cussing a man down, dipshit)

That boring enough for you?
BTW, did you have anything to add worth reading?

 

[Dalaihempy]

hoosierdaddy carm down think of your blood pressure mate reality is you dont know lol.

how come anytime real info is required you go off tap you know it all just answear it to the best of your ability.

As for breeding well hoosierdaddy i have been breeding my own seed and hybrids since 79 you see mate we did not have the net or the availability of seed banks back then here is just 1 line i am playing with its a Thia x Hawaiian line i made and i call hype.

So the answer to the question was no male coursed lack of vigor was it by chance hoosierdaddy sorry you need to speech up lol.

 

[Silence]

Mate you can dance around it all you like reality is such a bitch a bit like the way you conduct your self in these forums.

I am running a test on s1 seeds i made there not chemically turned fem seeds i will give you that but they are s1 seeds and all female and you know my findings are far from what you and your alleged text books tell me so give me a reason and explanation to why these s1 seeds are lacking so much vigor when the f2s made by the same female using a selected brother to x with her had explosive growth a vigor in veg and flower but you cant can you because your so full of it just maybe the male plant is a lot more impotent to the species than you even know or are willing to admit.

I have pictures i am not hear to talk shit and you know what hoosierdaddy i am so sick of your attitude towards every one in this site that does not bow down to you or your vues my advice to you is to gain an understanding of things you need to keep an open mind and know what your in fact talking about i don't claim to be any type of expert but i sure can tell many that do pretend to be experts are so full of it that they believe there own bull shit a bit like you.

Common Mr expert explane it to me and every one reading this post why are the s1 seeds expressing such a loss in vigor yet the f2s did not.

that post shows you have no clue sorry to say! its shows ignorance plain and simple, if you do not know why a selfed line/individual loses vigor quicker then you're fu*ked.

 

[Dalaihempy]

that post shows you have no clue sorry to say! its shows ignorance plain and simple, if you do not know why a selfed line/individual loses vigor quicker then you're fu*ked.

That you hoosierdaddy thort as much explane it to me then brite spark troll.

 

[Dalaihempy]

STONERGATE Part 2 pathetic lol.

 

[darwinsbulldog]

with all due respect, some of you guys seem to have chosen the answer you want and are sticking to it no matter what because you'd prefer it over others (for whatever reason). you need to be more objective and sought out the truth no matter what it is, no matter if it's what you really wanted to hear or not, simply because it's the truth, fact....!

James A. Garfield - "The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable."

 

[Dalaihempy]

Well i am happy to hear the truth mate what i Am not happy to read and see is the same nasty attacks by people like hoosierdaddy instead of real answers.

 

[Silence]

That you hoosierdaddy thort as much explane it to me then brite spark troll.

DYOR it could make you wiser... as a wise man once said though "he who learns but does not think is lost" have a think about it theres a logical answer.

 

[Dalaihempy]

look you can play this tactic all you like the points i made are very veiled on the page 7 of this post and i do know the difference from s1 and r1 i my self came to the conclusion that the lack of a male is the reason for the loss of vigor you can say what ever you like but you can not give me a veiled explanation and by attacking me or trying to take this post further from my posts will do nothing to help you.

 

[Silence]

Hoosierdaddy what you know isn't worth knowing nor teaching and could fit on a 1st class stamp, I am impressed that you love to read so do many humans some see the words some understand them!!!

personal experience and oppinions are what got the books we read,, I am for that,, R U..

Or do you want it to be as you discribed,,

Rather than cuss aman down for his input try find some propper findings that back up what you keep saying cos its well boring!!!

What isnt in this thread is how to make propper seeds,, fem or regular..
R1's arn't great but usefull when it goes to shit,, I mean hetrosis which is the most desireable trait isnt available through inbread feminized matings because or the re shuffel and re combination you will find more mish mash.. and to self 2 diverse females can make a stable line is obsured there will be good plants but only to those that havn't seen good genetic makeup or a good pheno, The Y is needed..

Why is the Y needed? heterosis is the opp of inbreeding.. selfing is the quickest way to inbred... and 2 seperate selfed lines will create a hybrid with the desired vigor. look and what they do with commercial crops like maize ffs. I have no interest in males to grow out I want females for sinse plain and simple. so again you explain to me why the Y is needed. what you have wrote above is mish mash.


You only get if if your making fem seeds badly.. and this is not the use for that technice just some wasters way of looking big and clever. I'll pepsi challange fem v's regular weel send them to ESBE and see what he thinks,, the regular has more potentioal than R or S 1 because the build up of the plant matireal is what were looking for just with 1 or 2 matches that create varience in phenotype the 0.1% usually unsurpassable,,

Explain to me concisely how the Reg seeds have more potential.

 

[Silence]

look you can play this tactic all you like the points i made are very veiled on the page 7 of this post and i do know the difference from s1 and r1 i my self came to the conclusion that the lack of a male is the reason for the loss of vigor you can say what ever you like but you can not give me a veiled explanation and by attacking me or trying to take this post further from my posts will do nothing to help you.

NONE of your posts explain anything hempy, explain then how you came to your conclusion! no one has attacked you and most of the trolling seems aimed at hoosier as always.. like I said before I'll play Andie Mcdowell.. who you playing?

 

[englishrick]

hooz,,please be cool with CannaB,,i know him well and he deserves better than that,,even tho you might think differently now,,what im sayin deserves some reflection,,,everyones opinions change,

 

[Silence]

hooz,,please be cool with CannaB,,i know him well and he deserves better than that,,even tho you might think differently now,,what im sayin deserves some reflection,,,everyones opinions change,

If he's big enough to sprout shit he can take shit rick.

 

[englishrick]

just give hime some room to grow,,please

im with you silence,,im just trying to stay on good terms with people with oposing opinions,,,if i can change any minds, il do it from inside the walls,,

 

[Silence]

Are you talking about feminized inbreeding?? or IBL ( Inbread bacrossed line)??? R1's are still like having a male and a male is easyer unless you have 2 badboy xx females and they are xx,, but like all the stuff containing skunk will not result in vigour just a backross so you will get Fuck all you want.. Mabe find a keeper.. why has so many seed genetic make ups changed because dick's lost males.. anyone found a good skunky skunk or a good shiva or a other excellent line gone bad!! If you have proof to the contrary please show it to me because unless you have selected and stressed for 50 years on 1 plant the same p1's bread the same way will not always produce the same seeds and also sex is not predeterminde at the mitosis stage but in the germination so propper selection is key. In R1's you will find a true xy yx and even yy perhaps if the desired genetic's breeding goal is found on the male side of the same chromozome makeup that influences the amazingness we all desire for our own purposes.. say a double reversal ???? You wont get the shnizz without the JIZZ>>>

firstly when did IBL mean Inbred backcrossed line ? it doesn't please get basics right.

 

[englishrick]

il agree ,,,,,,but how many people know the real term for backcross is [BC],,,,, terminoligy allways gets us into trouuble,,,,anyone remember when charles and sam got into a mad debate about the S designation in S1/S2,,etc

 

[Silence]

il agree ,,,,,,but how many people know the real term for backcross is [BC],,,,, terminoligy allways gets us into trouuble,,,,anyone remember when charles and sam got into a mad debate about the S designation in S1/S2,,etc

regardless if you are going to preach. at least have the facts and terminology correct.