PLL Club. (if you don't know, now you know)

[big twinn]

as far as wiring goes, if you have any questions...(it took me a couple days to figure it out) ill be more then happy to help you out! Im running 4 55 watts with no problems at all!

 

[big twinn]

what are all of you's opinion of this Aquarium PL-L lamp?
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.c...pcatid=18969&cmpid=03csent&ref=3665&subref=AA

55watt, 2g11 base, the blue spectrum (unless the white spectrum would be better)
14,000k, 420nm actinic lighting.

 

[Garuda]

no, they're too cheap, that can't be good
(scnr)

Go for the 6500K, they work perfectly and you can get them (almost) everywhere and they are way cheaper than those above.

Greetings,
Garuda.

 

[big twinn]

so wait, whats wrong with that bulb? im under the impression it would increase resin production greatly being actinic.

 

[Phrenic]

I have a question. What would work better with four 36watt bulbs and two 24watt bulbs at once, the workhorse 7 or the workhorse 8? Also, what kind of heat can i expect from those six bulbs in a 15in wide by 25in high by 14in deep enclosure?

 

[Garuda]

so wait, whats wrong with that bulb? im under the impression it would increase resin production greatly being actinic.

maybe you should try to get your system running flawlessly before thinking about optimizing it's a long way to any resin my friend...

Just my 2 cents

 

[maree]

Uk wiring for PL-L

Uk wiring for PL-L

Hi - question from a new comer who's also very nervous of playing with electrics.

How do I wire up my QTP DL 2x55 watt osram ballast to the:

1. fitting for bulb

2. socket.

If anybody can help a real step-by-step guide would be hugely appreciated. You know, what cable's needed, what fuse in plug, how to connect up wires. If you assume you're explaining to a twelve year old, you'll probably get it about right! I've seen the wiring diagram on the front of the ballast - just wanna get it right in case I end up frying the stuff I've just forked out for.

 

[Garuda]

Hi maree,
actually you just have to follow the diagram (I wished I had this on my new ballast, was kind of mindfuck because it didn't fit the pl-l scheme directly), direction of the lamp fittings doesn't matter. Use 0.5-1.5mm fixed core wiring on that side (should be labeled on the front what exactly to use, my old Vossloh&Schwabe ballast said 0.5-1mm). On the other side you'll have to use the same cables but you could use a terminal strip to connect a regular power cord to your installation.

Greetings,
Garuda.

 

[someotherguy]

Hi - question from a new comer who's also very nervous of playing with electrics.

How do I wire up my QTP DL 2x55 watt osram ballast to the:

1. fitting for bulb

2. socket.

If anybody can help a real step-by-step guide would be hugely appreciated. You know, what cable's needed, what fuse in plug, how to connect up wires. If you assume you're explaining to a twelve year old, you'll probably get it about right! I've seen the wiring diagram on the front of the ballast - just wanna get it right in case I end up frying the stuff I've just forked out for.

high maree, here's a few links that were posted earlier
in the thread, should give you all the info you need.

Info:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=104860Remote CFL Ballasts....aka PL-L's

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=114922PL-L reflector shapes

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=131842The ultimate beginner's guide to PC FANS!

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=70035How To: Wiring PC/Axial fans to 12v DC adapter

Grows:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=92259"the high-pod" - inefectualize

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=128088220w pl-l coco scrog cupboard - ScrubNinja

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=123569C-99 under 220w of PL-L CFL lamps - Hydro-Soil

btw, these were originally compiled and posted by
Jeebus11 and in his post found here you will find
several other grows to look through for inspiration.


peace, and stay safe, SOG

 

[big twinn]

as of right now, everything is running smooth and dialed in....nobody can tell me if this light is good or bad and why?


what are all of you's opinion of this Aquarium PL-L lamp?
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.co...3665&subref=AA

55watt, 2g11 base, the blue spectrum (unless the white spectrum would be better)
14,000k, 420nm actinic lighting

 

[Anti]

as of right now, everything is running smooth and dialed in....nobody can tell me if this light is good or bad and why? 55watt, 2g11 base, the blue spectrum (unless the white spectrum would be better)
14,000k, 420nm actinic lighting

The most typically recommended kelvin rating for vegging plants is 6500k.

The most typically recommended kelvin rating for flowering plants is 2600k.

Can you tell me why 14,000k might not give the results you would like?

None of us are going to do it to satisfy your curiosity. How about you spend some money to experiment or stick to what the community at large has recommended (6500k veg, 2700k flower)?

 

[fatigues]

The Deep Blues are used in Marine (salt water) aquariums for coral reefs. The light bandwidth spectrum they deliver is designed for growing salt water plants and organisms to replicate that blue lighting environment in a salt water aquarium tank.

There is nothing "magical" about actinic lighting. It's designed for a special environmental purpose for specific plants and organisms.

Now, if you have that magical new high tech genetically maniuplated Sea Kelp#2 x Northern Lights #5 HBL strain? Actinic may be just the ticket to make it grow the way it wants best.

My bet? Your seeds are not custom genetic crosses with Sea Kelp, but are harvested from indica plants that evolved in the lower altitudes of the Hindu Kush mountain ranges in Afghanistan and Pakistan -- and are perhaps crossed with some South American or India/Thai rainforest sativas.

Near as I can discern, there is no salt water around those environments for hundreds of miles in any direction. In no case are the plants growing 30 or 40 feet below the surface of said ocean.

4100K will do you fine as the overall spectrum from PL-Ls is far broader than HPS or MH lights (meaning there is already LOTS of 6500k spectrum light in a so called "4100k lamp". If you want to go 6500K and 2700k? Fill your boots. I don't see, however, how a 10k lamps or actinic lighting designed for coral reefs are going to help veg a marijuana plant more effectively than a 6500k lamp.

 

[oldone]

I gotta agree with Anti and fatigues here. My cab works fine with 4100K for veg using the cheap $3-$4 Pluserite tubes.

I dont mean to shoot down a brother grower but why reinvent the wheel?
OO

 

[Milhouse]

I have actually used a mixture of 2700k and 3200k bulbs from 1000bulbs.com for both vegging and flowering. The plants didn't seem phased at all.

 

[someotherguy]

I have actually used a mixture of 2700k and 3200k bulbs from 1000bulbs.com for both vegging and flowering. The plants didn't seem phased at all.

i'll bet they were a bit lanky though.

peace, SOG

 

[big twinn]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=158864

this thread got me interested in the actinic lighting, for the UV-B output to increase resin content.

 

[Anti]

I have actually used a mixture of 2700k and 3200k bulbs from 1000bulbs.com for both vegging and flowering. The plants didn't seem phased at all.

I did my first run through my CFL cab with 252w of 2700k for both veg and flowering. Results were good.

I did all other runs through my CFL with a mix of 2700k and 6500k for veg and flowering. Results still good.

(4x2700k, 2x6500k flowering, 4x6500k, 2x2700k veg)

I haven't decided what kind of lights my (in design phase) PLL cab will have, but I know what it WON'T have... 14,000k actinic lighting.

Some design sketches thus far.

(Design inspired by HighPod and re-inspired by Tilt's Entertainment Center.)

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[bonghopper]

Having a hard time finding pll's in Western Europe / British Isles. Anyone got any links to online 230v vendors? Nice one

 

[oldone]

Having a hard time finding pll's in Western Europe / British Isles. Anyone got any links to online 230v vendors? Nice one

Wow and I thought it was hard to get them in N America...just google 2G11 (socket type) and you should get plenty of hits...

OO

 

[bonghopper]

Sweet, thanks oldone, its funny that pll didnt get half as many results as 2g11. Got an AH#3 on the go too, it took well to topping and supercropping, the lower branches are at the same level as the top, its a nice bush before going into flower. Hows yours coming along? The screen filled out the space nicely. Nice cab