GH's New Flora Duo 2 part

[Thundurkel]

That's right a 2 part from GH I'm sure if you went to the Indoor Gardening Expo in SF yesterday you know what I'm talking about. If you have a new Maximum Yield that's what the add with the black lables covering the bottles were about. Thing that bothered me about it was it was a Grow bottle and a Bloom bottle! HOW THE FUCK IS THIS A 2 PART!!!! I'll give it to them for making a waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy thinner version of Flora Nova cuz that's what it seemed like to me especially dude going on about ratio's LOL Is that not what folks do with 1part's? Especially in transition cuz dude was saying in grow you will use like 2:1 grow:bloom and a 3:1 bloom:grow which isn't like ANY 2part I've used or read about. To me a 2 part is a A&B which is used in the same amount from each bottle! Anybody get samples? I didn't grrrrrrrr however I got a qt of Bud Xl and a qt of Top Booster and some other goodies. Folks were ridiculous going crazy for fucking Botanicare Lighters!!! From what I was told this year was packed full of fucks begging for free shit and didn't really know what they were talkin about. House and Garden actually questioned you on what you were using and based that on what to give you which I thought was cool. Alot of reps were dicks at the other booths like Humboldt Nutrients fuck those guys...

 

[NiteTiger]

So wait, GH took their three part line, and made it into a one part that, for all intents and purposes, is Lucas in a bottle. Awesome!

Now they take their one bottle system, and upgrade it to a two part?

Um, WTF, isn't that a step backwards?

 

[TheRealDeal]

You wont stop talking about this and tryn to hate on em. I know It seems like a crazy concept to you, and i wasnt able to explain it so let me try again, It seems different to you but Its because you havent used the 3 part from GH. this is how it works. simple,--

3 to 1 gro in veg and transition during different stages to 3 to 1 bloom in bloom. or somithing simular. no need for equal amounts the whole time, (save nutes) its not that hard to understand u just havent used the others, so now its just a little easier with the two. its awesome for the three part users. we will see how well it works. Next time your at the shop pick up one of the 3 part bottles and look at the simple little feed schedule just for fun.

 

[Thundurkel]

Well I have used Cutting Edge Solutions 3 part for a whole run and had my mom cab fed on it for 6months I think I know how to use a 3part. Honestly to me what it sounds like they did but I haven't checked the numbers is just took the 6/9 mix that Head and Rezdog use and bottled it seeing the bottles of Grow not being bought as much in the last 2 years. At least that's what I noticed was many cats dropping that bottle of Grow so who knows I'm getting samples and I'll try them but I don't see it being better than Aqua Flakes but who knows best shit I've EVER SEEN was done on GH 3part and the club thinks its done in soil with organics so it's possible Duo could be the shit..

 

[Thundurkel]

It just still don't seem like a true 2part more like a hybrid between 1part cuz at one point it's just gonna be that Bloom bottle it has EVERYTHING needed I think that Cal was 2.4% and Mg 1.2% not for sure but it was close to that. I think they should have just called it a new one part cuz you can use FN in ratios like lots do go 5ml in veg then 2.5ml Grow and 2.5ml Bloom for the first 2 weeks I dunno they confused the fuck outta me with this 2part shit cuz not ONE company has a 2part you use in different amounts so why confuse stoners? They sure don't care about us anyway were nowhere to be found at the THC Expo and 80% of you income is from cannabis growers is shitty IMO..

 

[215forLife]

Yeah the best herb I ever smoked was GH 3 part too. The strain was pure kush. I don't remember if it was rockwool or coco that it was grown in.

It would make sense that they are bottling the 6/9 like that... cause it is thinner than Floranova...

 

[TheRealDeal]

Damn. I tried. your still not getting it. I didnt say anything about you not knowing how to use a 3 part. you took that the wrong way. I said you havent used the GH three part so it makes it harder for you to understand. for all the people who have used the 3 part for any of the many many years its been around it makes perfect sense. I think your just a little confused because your used to other nute mixes, but to gh users this is the standard and nothing new, they just made it a little easier. And nova comes in grow and bloom but thats a one part still. Plus wouldnt you want something you dont use equal parts of all the way through thats just less nutes your gonna use.

 

[Thundurkel]

Know I didn't I was just saying CES is JUST like GH I get it but it's not a true 2part to me they just bottled the 6/9 mix I'd bet money on it.. All good buddy you know fools can't talk me outta House and Garden so of course I'm biased hahahaha

 

[ShroomDr]

So, im confused here... Are they changing the NPK profiles of the Flora Series? I was just about to start a thread about these new adverts on the back of 'Maximum Yield' and 'Urban Gardner'.

One thing is for sure, selling me a new bottle with more water, will not result in my happiness.

 

[Thundurkel]

Plus wouldnt you want something you dont use equal parts of all the way through thats just less nutes your gonna use.

Personally no I wouldn't that was what I REALLY liked about H&G cuz when I was using the 6/10 mix with CES I had damn near 3/4 of Micro and 1/4 of Bloom and was mad I didn't have enough Bloom to make it through another run and then I'd have to go through the same shit running out of one before the other ect. To me it was very convenient to have my bottles both empty at the same time that way I don't have a OLD bottle of Grow and a fresh bottle of Bloom (that's for PBP and FN) not sure if you get what I'm saying. I also think it's much easier to know when looking at my chart 6.5ml is 6.5ml of A&B I don't feel like playing chemist and adding 2ml of this part and 6ml of this part then all the extra additives I use no more than 3-4 bottles at a time so that's another thing I like more about the line I'm using. You'll see very soon and I'm pretty sure you are going to do better with H&G since you already know your shit. But do get a ph pen if you don't have one already cuz every point counts I learned the hard way...

 

[Thundurkel]

So, im confused here... Are they changing the NPK profiles of the Flora Series? I was just about to start a thread about these new adverts on the back of 'Maximum Yield' and 'Urban Gardner'.

One thing is for sure, selling me a new bottle with more water, will not result in my happiness.

I believe they did, I wish I would of got samples and still waiting for somebody to chime in that did so can all see the label. I want to say it was something like the Bio Thrive Grow and Bloom but synthetic..

 

[gomer]

GH Duo

Grow

Bloom

Usage

 

[ShroomDr]

@gomer Can you tell me the weight and mL of those bottles? The pic just barely cut it off.

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This seems like the stupidest idea ive ever heard of.

I dont see the benefit of this type of ratios. If anything, it adds a layer of confusion, a vail that must be decoded, to get what they recommend for NPK for different stages. Totally superfluous. (the Ca seems low compared to the N too, and 1.9% NH4 seems like a lot to me).

Come to think if it, this new FloraDuo is not related to the adverts on the back of those two trade magazines. The advertisements, clearly show three bottles, and one is labeled 'FloraMicro'. So i guess my question still stands, and/or needs a different thread.

So GH now makes a 1 part, a 2 part, and a 3 part.

GH also has an advert on the third page of July/Aug 'Urban Garden' that has 4 bottles, all completely in shade, that says 'Shhhh... [4 shaded bottles] ...discover the secret, July 2010'

LOL wtf is up with that? A new 4 part?

 

[215forLife]

Well I think one of the sets of ad's refers to the new label on the flora 3 part... and the other is the new flora duo...

 

[gomer]

ShroomDr,

The bottles I got are marked SAMPLE NOT FOR RESALE.
Weight and ml

 

[TheRealDeal]

Personally no I wouldn't that was what I REALLY liked about H&G cuz when I was using the 6/10 mix with CES I had damn near 3/4 of Micro and 1/4 of Bloom and was mad I didn't have enough Bloom to make it through another run and then I'd have to go through the same shit running out of one before the other ect. To me it was very convenient to have my bottles both empty at the same time that way I don't have a OLD bottle of Grow and a fresh bottle of Bloom (that's for PBP and FN) not sure if you get what I'm saying. I also think it's much easier to know when looking at my chart 6.5ml is 6.5ml of A&B I don't feel like playing chemist and adding 2ml of this part and 6ml of this part then all the extra additives I use no more than 3-4 bottles at a time so that's another thing I like more about the line I'm using. You'll see very soon and I'm pretty sure you are going to do better with H&G since you already know your shit. But do get a ph pen if you don't have one already cuz every point counts I learned the hard way...

Lol. none of that has anything to do with what i was tryn to say. So basicly you like spending more on equal parts? thats cool. And nobody "plays Chemist" with the three part. its the easiest thing any third grader can do. It really is one of the most simple easiest ways. thats why i start all the begginners on it. its way easier than measuring hella bottles. I dont add shit. its three things. so whos really "playing chemist?" And I was never trying to get you to change shit. I dont even use this stuff, I was just trying to help you understand something you clearly dont about their line., but you just take it way the wrong way. Its a simple concept to those who understand the 3 part. thats all.

 

[Metalhead419]

Hey no offense, realdeal, but take it elsewhere man. This thread is about GH FloraDuo.

I really can't wait to try this, it looks badass. Does anyone know when its going to be in stores? Its completely chem based right, no organics? Seems to me this is the way 2 parts should be done. H&G is nice, but I personally would like to know the actual NPK and be able to add a little more of one or the other to adjust it a little, like the FloraDuo. With H&G your pretty much locked into one ratio, and I hate that they won't put whats in it on the bottle, lame. Any other new GH products coming out?

 

[REZDOG]

Its completely chem based right, no organics?

No,it's based on salts,and the 3-part Flora Series is as well.
In fact,it's really processed salts,so it could arguably be called "organic-based and refined"....

~RD~

 

[Metalhead419]

Rez, good luck arguing that one lol. I know what you mean though, and I should have worded my question better, thanks for the answer.

 

[ShroomDr]

This thread is about GH FloraDuo.

I really can't wait to try this, it looks badass.

What exactly do you find appealing?

They are removing the flexibility, which is what makes the three part so great.

With the GH Flora Series, all the Ca and Fe are in the Micro bottle, the 'Grow' and 'Bloom' are basically analogous, with the Bloom having more P and K than Grow, and Grow having additional N.

Most of the growers on this forum using the 'Three Part' only use two bottles (Micro & Bloom; 8/16 or 6/9).