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statusquo

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How are we being greedy...we are not suppliers making money. We also have to pay the same prices you do for seeds. We are arguing that we think its fair for them to charge these prices. Also you don't see breeding operations based in the U.S because to do good commercial breeding you need to have HUGE plant counts that would result in life in federal prison. This is not the case in other countries or its easier to get away with it. Also the cost of shipping isn't the companies decision lol, it is what is...

Frankly I think you are kind of old, cranky, and need to get with times (no disprespect intended as you can see from my previous posts). Most of us have come in here and nicely expressed our opinions on a question YOU asked...I'm sorry our opinions are not inline with yours and that we couldn't convince you of our reasoning.
 
Greyskull

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you think seeded pot sells for the same price as sensi????

okay guy.... whatever
 
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u2seek42

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Yep it's

Yep it's

The nasty pissy bitchy "tude" around here that will drive me away.

Status Q I am thankful for your responces, I did not come to fight I came to discuss.

Some of ya might give up the weed, for some Thorazine.

But that is the beautiy of the web, you don't like what ya see, move on.

I was on a race and ethnicity board for 2 years, and di not see the back biting bullshit I see here.

And for you young bucks, know this one day if you are very very lucky, you will be my age, then you will come to appreciate the mouthing of young fools with no manners.

Bon chance!
 
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moonunit

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statusquo said:
You are clearly unaware of the time that goes into making STABLE, genetics available for the MASSES. There are not plenty of hobby breeders making dank stable genetics that could be available on the mass market. I do check the donations all the time and these people are doing just that: donating. They could be getting way more for their seeds but they donate them for the sake of helping others, this is not an indicator that this is the cost of seeds. Also, many of the people donating the genetics worthwhile @ seedbay are either established companies or private breeders with a lot of experience/access to elite genetics.

Anyways, if it so easy why don't you do it?
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He does m8, and has for a long time, maybe the name donald gives you a clue

As to the op
I think there is a place for all beans, some are a rip off yes, but some are worth the work that has been put into them. The same exists in all markets. One can buy a cask/box o shitty wine, make their own wine, or buy a bottle for thousands+ . Nothing to stop the op from making his own beans if he doesnt want to pay for them. I must say though, as one can buy very cheap beans from mandala, nirvana and numerous other companys, that the op must just be pissed it costs so much to get the latest super duper kush master chem flavor of the month, and he wants to be part of the latest craze but cant justify the cost.
I say make your own then or buy some cheap beans, have a coke and a smile and stfu.
moonunit
 
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As for anything if there is customer support then the value of the purchase goes up.

Certified genetics should cost more because it has been tested to be what it is supposed to be.

The problem comes in that anyone crossing genetics can and do charge way more than the value of the service they provide and can defend that because it's illegal.

So what is done is done.. What are the seed people going to do to offer a more competitive product in California if it becomes Decriminalized in November?

The "over seas" business could drop off if those folks don't come up with a plan..

Meanwhile I am open to business opportunity being an accomplished Organic Soil Grower. My Crop Quality is top notch every time I grow here.

So I would be open to being a State Side Seed producer right here in California. You over seas people might want to contract with State Side talent.
 
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baet

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i don't mind paying $10-15 a seed.
from a reputable breeder that is, who takes pride in his breeding, and works his ass off to stabilize genetics. ($1-2 a seed would be bitchin', but so would $5000 ferraris, welcome to capitalism.)

in the scheme of things it's nothing when that seed has the possibility of becoming an infinite amount of clones/seeds producing lbs of high quality medicine.
nothing in this world is free, especially drugs and medicine. when you take into account the workings of a business and their expenses, as well as the huge risk involved in shipping seeds and producing seeds for a global black market, the prices don't seem too outrageous.

there are cheap packs, just might not be the latest hyped strains.

respect
 
Kcar

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Most seeds are underpriced! Think of it in terms of genetics.
And then realize you can clone or produce your own seeds easily. From those "overpriced"
seeds. Or not. I should shut up.

Not only that, but once you find a great strain/breeder/clone you'll be hooked and never
let go!

Sorry, I'm a devote follower of BOG, and also REZ.
 
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u2seek42

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You may have by that comment caused all seed sellers to go well then a 100 bucks a seed, because you are getting so much from it.

Providing it germs, it is not male.

I am amazed at the cross talk of what and who sells what if it is good , what it says it is, and grows.

It does not seem to be illegal for them to be dropping seeds in the Dutch mail.

So the idea of CRIME costs is bunk.

I still have not heard a seed count, lets knock around some numbers.
 
statusquo

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JackTheGrower said:
What are the seed people going to do to offer a more competitive product in California if it becomes Decriminalized in November?

The "over seas" business could drop off if those folks don't come up with a plan..
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Correct me if I'm wrong but it would still be illegal to do any kind of serious breeding for average person because of plant counts. Are you saying you would be commercially licensed and sell to people in Cali, internationally or nationally? or that you would do closet breeding? Just looking to clarify :) thanks jack
 
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Cannabis is not legal in Amsterdam, it is tolerated but is not legal, mailing seeds especially to the USA always has inherant risks... Have you not heard of Marc Emery???

This is really just getting silly now
 
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u2seek42

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The topic ... Was Seed Costs

The topic ... Was Seed Costs

One more time, does anyone one have any numbers?

What I have heard is, the touchy feeley they are out there dieing for us.

I've been to Holland several times, it is ALL legal in everything but the written word.

That is just to keep us the US, off their ass.
Our drug policy has taken many countries hostage.
At least on the face of it.

Perhaps a rep from our sponsor here, will pop in with some good seed breed data.

I raise tomatoes some damn fine ones, big as two fists, I have seeds.
Really really busted my ass putting water and feed on them.

Being the humble fellow I am. A dollar a seed will be fine
Interested parties may contact me.
 
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DeRail640

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u2seek42 said:
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I raise tomatoes some damn fine ones, big as two fists, I have seeds.
Really really busted my ass putting water and feed on them.

Being the humble fellow I am. A dollar a seed will be fine
Interested parties may contact me.
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Damn them are some big tomatoes I would love to get some seeds would be worth it for a good heirloom variety. and i bet you will guarantee delivery also.
 
mexicangreen420

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wow, what numbers? you're just getting creepy now with that numbers stuff.

good breeders are not a dime a dozen, good breeders are few and far between.

GO BUY NIRVANA SEEDS, $1-2/seed, and good results.
or
step up and buy a BOG strain, $10/seed, and predictable, reputable, reliable results.
or
MAN THE F UP "HEAD" and go buy a nice pack of seeds, and see for yourself if it's worth it. or don't.

best of luck.
 
daves4usc

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If there is a demand then there will be a supply. The amount of demand will decide the supply which will inturn decide the prices. Im not trying to give an econ lesson but this is how the seed business works. I do feel certain breeders take advantage of the market by hyping a product up and then releasing less then demanded to drive price up rather than letting the consumers decide. However, in an unregulated and mostly illegal market situation they are in, they can get away with it. I would do the same to be honest.

What really concerns me the most is how the price of the Euro has dropped but the prices on the Boo have not changed in relation to the dollar. In another words the US dollar is worth considerably more than it did when compared to the Euro a few months ago. So why hasnt the exchange rates been adjusted on the site??
 
slackx

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u2seek42 said:
Let me see, they grow weed where it is legal.
They then get to sell the weed.
Then they get to charge 10 11 12 bucks a seed.

A buck or 2 should be more than enough, for these growers.

Let weed be legalized and they will be out on their azz, and it will serve them right.

As an old school Hippie, I am truly disappointed by my fellow heads.
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Yea hippie? Try rez it's 20 a seed.
 
slackx

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u2seek42 said:
You may have by that comment caused all seed sellers to go well then a 100 bucks a seed, because you are getting so much from it.

Providing it germs, it is not male.

I am amazed at the cross talk of what and who sells what if it is good , what it says it is, and grows.

It does not seem to be illegal for them to be dropping seeds in the Dutch mail.

So the idea of CRIME costs is bunk.

I still have not heard a seed count, lets knock around some numbers.
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Knock around numbers on your own time, its not about YOU - this is other peoples jobs. My advice - you wanna change the game; buy all the seeds from the bay and make f2's to put them all out of business, or become a breeder and make low prices. But you'll quickly see how much work and money is spent in doing projects the right way. Last time someone tried to tell me how much what I do is worth i told them to go fuck themselves i'm pretty sure your barking up the same tree.
 
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It all comes down to money, and setting high prices has apparently worked for the seed companies that have expensive seeds. I haven't seen any data on what these companies make so it's hard for me to say, but I assume it's working for them since that's how they price them. I really can't blame people who sell cannabis seeds for looking to make their large profits, since it has probably worked out for many of them seeing as how people will still pay higher prices for either name appeal or hard to find genetics.

If you'd rather not have to spend a lot of money on a whole pack, you could consider getting a single seed or trying cheaper companies.
 
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When i was a kid I worked 3 jobs to pay for college. One summer I saved all money and bought tickets to follow the Dead...I was at concert with my gf and we ran out of money..so I decided to sell my tickets for that show and use the money for gas and food. I will NEVER EVER forget the reaction from most of the "hippies" there! They shouted at me for selling my tickets and not giving them away! I was selling them for wha I bought them at. There were 3 old time hippies that actually threw trash at us! At that moment I realized just how fucking stupid the whole "free" everything hippie life is. It's selfish to even think people shouldn't sell their seeds at whatever fucking price they want to! Who the fuck ate you to say what people sell things for? It's a free fucking market economy! I worked hard for those tickets and so do most seed breeders...and even if they didn't who are you to tell them how much to sell for?

Ya know, in a thousand posts I have made on this site this is the only negative one I have posted! WTF!!
 
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