Indica is diluting the sacred herb

[BlueBerryBaby]

I love sats far more than indicas, far more. So this was a nice read .

But how did some of the sativas like columbian gold, and mauwi waui vanish?

 

[Lisdexik]

If any of you are fans of DJ short then read some of his articles on this topic.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=96428

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=42050

If you do not think indicas are diluting the quality of herb in the cannabis gene pool then you need to do some research. Don't get me wrong, I still like a good indica from time to time, but I feel that the high produced by indicas are short lived and dull in comparison to good sativas. Indica genetics never last in my garden - I tend to grow tired and tolerant of them quickly.

Lisdexik

 

[tetragrammaton]

BBB, they didn't vanish, it's just that with the rise of indoor growing, the market had less of a demand for imported weed. Plus around that time, indica genetics were being spread around, making it possible for growers in non tropical areas to produce weed.

Before that, people were growing their pure sativa seeds in the United States, and for the most part were having bad results.

I've read and experienced that the past few years, the mexican commercial operations are switching to Dutch strains, which saddens me, although I can understand why. They have to compete with increasing quality from Canada and Domestic, plus they are able to get in an extra harvest or two per year.

I was watching a documentary that was on g4 on 420 were they went to Jamaica. They went on a tour of a commercial farm, and the farmer was growing C99xBlueberry. I believe he went on to explain that with these new strains he is able to get more harvests in per year, and that that is what the Americans want.

I agree with you that for the average consumer, they are more likely to get an indica dominant strain these days, especially if purchased on the black market. At least in a dispensary, they get to choose something more to their liking, even if it's not a pure sativa.

For those who love sativas, but are intimidated by the long flowering time, I'd suggest to grow an indica along side it. You will be able to get in two indica harvests, if from clone, and by the time your second indica harvest is ready, so will your sativa. You will then see for yourself that it was worth the wait, although you will also understand why commercial growers go for something much faster.

Well, I hope everyone finds what they're looking for.

Pure Sativa seeds are not hard to find online.

 

[tetragrammaton]

Do you guys think peoples preferences can be attributed to what they first smoked?

For instance, my first times geting high were off of pure sativas.

The first time I experienced an indica dominant strain, I was very disappointed. It didn't have any of the enjoyable qualities I associated with weed.

I've also encountered many people who are accustomed to indica dominant strains and have a bad experience when they smoke their first sativa. They associate weed with a relaxing, calming, mellow stone and get disturbed when they experience a racy, visual, and mental high.

So with that said, I think people may prefer what they are accustomed to. What do you guys think?

 

[Lisdexik]

I tend to notice that preference between indicas and sativas is related to tolerance.

I know that if I let my tolerance dip significantly, then an indica high is less harsh or overpowering, where as a sativa can induce greater paranoia or restlessness in my mind and body.

As my tolerance rises, so does my appreciation for a soaring sativa high; and as a morning toker I simply cannot live without a good sativa

Lisdexik

 

[tetragrammaton]

I agree lisdexic, however I have the opposite effect.

When I smoke a new indica strain, at first it will be very heavy and I cannot enjoy it without getting tired. As my tolerance increases, I am able to enjoy the high without the lethargy.

If I smoke a sativa strain after a period of exclusively smoking indica, I will feel as if somethings missing, the body high.

If I let my tolerance drop, or am accustomed to hybrids, and get a sativa, I LOVE the happy, psychedlic, euphoric high; and when I switch to anything else, I am very disappointed.

EDIT: with that said, that is why I believe occasional smokers are able to detect the differences much more than myself, as thy have no tolerance and are able to feel the strain to it's fullest. perhaps that is why my friend dislikes the indica high so much, because it is very lethargic to him.

 

[Japanfreakier]

I have been saying exactly what this article outlines for a long time now. It's uncanny how the words still ring true today and the foresight this guy had. Indica is also an easier high to appreciate for the average mundane person. Sativas spark that creative flare and infuse the smoker with a cerebral energy that is as wonderful as the smoker allows it to be.

I like both so I guess I don't need to diss people who like one or the other. You're more or less saying people are stupid if they like indica and creative if they agree with you. To each their own.

 

[tetragrammaton]

I like both so I guess I don't need to diss people who like one or the other. You're more or less saying people are stupid if they like indica and creative if they agree with you. To each their own.

While I like both, I can see what he's saying. With a pure sativa, I constantly want to do things such as draw or play an instrument.

When I smoke an indica I usually lose motivation, other than to eat and then take a nap.

I also always have a much better social experience if were all smoking a sativa rather than an indica.

 

[desant]

I find it amusing you comment without even looking at the main point of the post

Ohh yeah?? What is your point?

All i see is some weed noob talking shit about indicas, which do have time and place and a lot of people do enjoy them and see no problems.

I guess smoking that indic-ish schwag didnt work out for u

Some noob who obviously never smoked high quality home grown quality indica dominant weed and now, wants to "make history"

 

[desant]

Just hear him out, he obviously never smoked or enjoyed high grade indicas such as sensi star, black domina, heriguana... and funky indica dominant hybrids: nebula..... and how can i forget all the cool old school skunk varieties which are at least 3/4 indicas

Like i said smoking that schwag didnt work out for the OP

 

[PuReKnOwLeDgE]

Indica lover here! Sativas are cool but damn I just love fat greasy stony indica buds! Bland, I just put out a sour bubble let me tell you about a bland indica LOL yeah right! Sativas make my chest feel like it is going to split open and short of breath, to racy for me.

 

[tetragrammaton]

Ya there are plenty of indicas that are full of flavor and aroma and also give you a great mental high as well. Just like there are different sativa highs, there are different indica highs.

Smoke some og kush or GDP and tell me it's bland lol.

 

[guineatrippin]

I'd like very much to grow more sativas, but the laws being what they are, it's easier to grow fast crop of hybrids for my own use and then not grow for a while to get my mind off of the risk I'm taking.

If weed would be legal I'd constantly have a few sativas and a few indicas and a few hybrids growing...

 

[ureapwhatusow]

my personal experience is that if you take pharmaceuticals, especially benzopenes or opiates, the sativa experience is highly degraded

Indicas seem to still have an enjoyable effect on people who are taking other medicines

Cancer patients get great relief while on other necessary medicines so while I agree with it diluting the sacred creative stimulating aspects when hybridized to a sativa but I dont think they are valueless

I prefer sats or sat hybrids but im may be a minority in that aspect

 

[StRa]

Really nice discussion here...but...De gustibus non est disputandum!

sometimes I like sativas.........sometimes I like hybrids.......sometimes indica.......

 

[RockyMountainHi]

Really nice discussion here...but...De gustibus non est disputandum!

sometimes I like sativas.........sometimes I like hybrids.......sometimes indica.......

Salute'!

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Without Indicas how could medical patients be eased from there physical pains. Sativas just don't cut it for my back pain..

Switch strains? Not all Sativas are the same... each have different properties.

A good trainwreck or Princess Diesel completely wipes out my pain... and that's through merely toking.


Indica's make GREAT topical applications and rubs. They're wonderful for muscle spasms and such. For extreme pain.....edibles can be used as well... if properly prepared... and the patient will still be able to function.


The point is that for MOST people.... The average indica will stop them from performing at the top of their game, Mentally. This is a huge anchor on the productivity of America... simply for more harvests in a year. (Thanks prohibition)

Indicas have their place... yes. And, about 80% of the population that tokes up daily with them should be using Sativas instead. ('Course... over half of those people don't even know what Indica/Sativa is... Thanks again Prohibition.)

Stay Safe!

 

[whodair]

did someone say indica ??

did someone say indica ??

skunk#1 x creeper (landrace indica)

ive cloned it since 1992 mainly due to potency and yield

she finishes quick and dense, with a low odor. the cerebral effect is balanced and its a great morning smoke !!

 

[JamieShoes]

this article is rubbish.

 

[tetragrammaton]

That looks amazing whodair! I would love to smoke that. Anyone who thinks that would be bland and dull is crazy.
Peace