16,000 watt warehouse grow part one

[Thaniel]

I really can't believe you guys are using half inch tubing to plumb these buckets.... use 1 inch instaed, and you will have far fewer problems with clogging....

About the trimming, yeah, I know, I am also a firm believer in hand trimmed buds being the best. I just can't do it anymore...

 

[joe fresh]

imo hand trimmed will always give a nicer looking job, but i really dont think there is a downfall to a trim machine if you get the right one. one that gives a nice close trim not leving much leaf behind, and what trichs get "raped off" will get thrown in with the leaf trim and get mad into hash, so i really dont see any losses

 

[BudBunker]

any problems with roots growing into the drain tubing?

I am gonna be doing a recirculating drip setup, and wonder if this would stop the roots growing into the drain tubing problems?

I quickly converted all of my tubing and fittings to 3/4".
1" wasnt nessecary with e/b, but i could see it being usefull in RDWC.
You can see I had a huge rootmass, but the tubing never clogged.

 

[rmccinc719]

reservationlabs no not tony haynes. tony was a up and coming amatuer but not a national pro. when bubba went pro he vowed to run tony's # and win a national championship with it. in order to do that he had to seek out the rider in the pro's who owned that number. the rider was a guy named chad walloston and one of my very best friends. chad rode for vickery yamaha out of denver colorado and was a top 20 national pro for 10 years. locally he was a 6 time pikes peak supercross champ. bubba and oakley had to approach chad and offer him some big $ to retire his # so bubba could claim it. chad got paid over 10g's and for the rest of his career ran national #59.
about trimming, yes we hand trim all of our buds.
hey budbunker thanks for stopping by and for your advise. I'm with you on those 5gallon buckets and larger lines I'm planning on starting to upgrade all my buckets to 5gallons starting as soon as we finish our soonest room in 2 weeks. i just don't really think these small pots can handle the roots we need to achieve our goals.
I'm going to go to lowes and start buying buckets. do i need to spray paint those grey buckets or can i get away without? any way's thanks guy's have a good one and happy growing.

 

[Rednick]

reservationlabs no not tony haynes. tony was a up and coming amatuer but not a national pro. when bubba went pro he vowed to run tony's # and win a national championship with it. in order to do that he had to seek out the rider in the pro's who owned that number. the rider was a guy named chad walloston and one of my very best friends. chad rode for vickery yamaha out of denver colorado and was a top 20 national pro for 10 years. locally he was a 6 time pikes peak supercross champ. bubba and oakley had to approach chad and offer him some big $ to retire his # so bubba could claim it. chad got paid over 10g's and for the rest of his career ran national #59.
about trimming, yes we hand trim all of our buds.
hey budbunker thanks for stopping by and for your advise. I'm with you on those 5gallon buckets and larger lines I'm planning on starting to upgrade all my buckets to 5gallons starting as soon as we finish our soonest room in 2 weeks. i just don't really think these small pots can handle the roots we need to achieve our goals.
I'm going to go to lowes and start buying buckets. do i need to spray paint those grey buckets or can i get away without? any way's thanks guy's have a good one and happy growing.

I get all my black buckets from USPlastics.com.

As for resevoirs,
http://www.tankequipment.com/

I-25 and Hwy 52, Frederick.

 

[Kelly.]

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[Mile Hi Dave]

Hey rmccinc...what did you do to increase your controller bucket size? I thought about going to 5 Gal buckets, but the contrller is only so bid and needs to sit below the level of the buckets it comes with. What am I missing here?

 

[Rednick]

Hey rmccinc...what did you do to increase your controller bucket size? I thought about going to 5 Gal buckets, but the contrller is only so bid and needs to sit below the level of the buckets it comes with. What am I missing here?

The 'control' bucket needs to be high enough (vertically) to accomodate the water level of your sites.

Size doesn't matter so much if you:
A) Have adequate outflow of the control bucket,
OR
B) Have float switches to regulate control bucket inflow.

If you had your flow rates down pat, then you wouldn't even need to have a 'control' bucket, it would just go straight from you tank to sites and the tubing would act as the 'control' bucket.

Cheaper alternative to C.A.P controllers.
http://www.aquahub.com/store/index.html

 

[Kelly.]

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[Rednick]

^^^^

setting another 55g drum next to the original, and running tubing between both (preferably at the bottom) will not change the level/height of water in the res, but will double its capacity.
both drums will empty/fill at the same rate, because liquid takes the shape of whatever its in.

hope that makes sense, it does in my head, lol

Just make sure your tubing btw the reses is greater than 1", at 1" it is still not enough to EQUALIZE the disparate reses into ONE res, unless using another pump to ACTIVELY mix the two reses.

I know, that is why I know rock one huge ass (70+ gal) central res.

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

Ok, my CAP E&G came with a controller bucket...how do I "modify" it to work with a 5 gal system w/o actually tearing it apart for the float switches?

I guess I could find a bucket that it will fit into and cut a hole in the bottom to give it more volume, as well as raise the controller?

 

[Kelly.]

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[Rednick]

good point, didnt think about the smaller diameter tubing being a restriction, 1in+ pvc and 2 uniseals would be perfect imo

It is all about FLOW RATES...If you can figure those out, cool, but otherwise plan on buying an extra pump, doesn't need to be big, just big enough to mix btw two resevoirs.

Pump low, outlet high.

Seriously, 1" wasn't nearly big enough...Thinkin 3"+ would be adequate. But still, if you don't actively mix it, then you are going to have disparate readings on both tanks.

Feel me?

 

[reservationlabs]

reservationlabs no not tony haynes. tony was a up and coming amatuer but not a national pro. when bubba went pro he vowed to run tony's # and win a national championship with it. in order to do that he had to seek out the rider in the pro's who owned that number. the rider was a guy named chad walloston and one of my very best friends. chad rode for vickery yamaha out of denver colorado and was a top 20 national pro for 10 years. locally he was a 6 time pikes peak supercross champ. bubba and oakley had to approach chad and offer him some big $ to retire his # so bubba could claim it. chad got paid over 10g's and for the rest of his career ran national #59.

Thank You for that information. Just by me knowing whom Tony Haynes is you know how deep I go,

 

[rmccinc719]

pretty deep i see. not to many people know who tony is even in the moto world. moto runs very deep in this family i just wish i could be out there with my boy enjoying it. after 2 broken backs I'm just greatful to still be walking.

 

[reservationlabs]

pretty deep i see. not to many people know who tony is even in the moto world. moto runs very deep in this family i just wish i could be out there with my boy enjoying it. after 2 broken backs I'm just greatful to still be walking.

Yeah I miss it too. Very glad that your broken backs didn't have you ending up like David Bailey or "Magoo" Chandler. Blessings. Now you can focus on this new found love of yours called Cannabis.

 

[checkedout]

Here is another site for black buckets. http://www.bayteccontainers.com/5-gallon-black-plastic-bucket.html

Also we are running 2 16 bucket ebb system that came with the 2 gal buckets. When we switched to 5 gal buckets we where fighting the water level problem with the stock controller. The flood and drain system just would not work. So we took in the output flow from the pump in the res. Ran 3/4" tubing between the buckets and "T"ed in 1/4 feed lines. So what we have now is a top feed, bottom drain system. Its had to say if the increased size and yield of the ladies is from the increased bucket size or the top feed, or both but life is good.

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

Here is another site for black buckets. http://www.bayteccontainers.com/5-gallon-black-plastic-bucket.html

Also we are running 2 16 bucket ebb system that came with the 2 gal buckets. When we switched to 5 gal buckets we where fighting the water level problem with the stock controller. The flood and drain system just would not work. So we took in the output flow from the pump in the res. Ran 3/4" tubing between the buckets and "T"ed in 1/4 feed lines. So what we have now is a top feed, bottom drain system. Its had to say if the increased size and yield of the ladies is from the increased bucket size or the top feed, or both but life is good.

Great idea...converting to drip...never thought of that and it may well be my solution as well!! I was just thinking about finding a bucket that the controller bucket would fit into and then just cutting a hole in the bottom of the controller bucket...but this seems like alot better idea!

 

[Kelly.]

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[rmccinc719]

hey kelly how's it going. no problem I'm alway's willing to learn from someone and help people who can learn from me. first, i was exploring the idea of of just moving over all the floats and converting one of the 5 gallon buckets into a controller fixing the problem of water levels between controller and buckets. i was also thinking of putting the new 3/4 lines t's and grommets on the bottom of the buckets letting even more water drain from the buckests all the lines would just run under the buckets since we lift off the floor anyway's. the idea of trying to do a drip system is very appealing and could be a very kool idea. I'll have to ponder this one and find the best way to impliment that idea and see if it works for us. I like all the ideas guy's keep it up. with a few concerted idea's i think we can make this a killer system to grow some huge tree's.
when i first biult the warehouse i decided to use this system for it's simplicity and cost affectiveness when trying to run 90 plants. i was going to do food and drain all with 4x8 trays but after all the tray's and rez's it was just way to much money for me to start. if cap made this system from the getgo with 5gal buckets and larger lines i think it could be one of the best out there.