H3ad goes Coco
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mydnytetoker
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Hey guys, right before the argument erupted again on overwatering I posted a question regarding issues I was having with this formula...see post 1128, and Mr. Bongjangles had posted (in another thread) that he suspected my issue was the Superthrive I was adding. Can you guys take a peek at the post and let me know what you guys think?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Superthrive contains hormones which can cause odd leaf issues, have you noticed any improvement/worsening with the pH change?
Darth Fader
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Seemed to help me, but a good practice may be to prevent salt buildup by using dripclean or flushing for one or two days every couple weeks. Some people don't seem to have issues with this and some strains seem to much more resilient.
mydnytetoker
Member
Thanks H3ad,
I have not noticed a change either way. But I think thats not necessarily a bad thing. As long as it doesn't get worse right? When leaves twist, do they ever straighten out or is it like a deficiency...once damage is done, the affected leaves don't improve but new growth is ok?
Does anyone have any other suggestions to improve on? By the way, the plants are about 18" tall. I am waiting for a few more cuts before I send them to the flower room. Don't want to fire up only 1, let alone both, of my 1k HPS lights until I can fill the canopy up. Thats a lot of power for only 4 plants right now.
yeah... those twisted leaves will probably always look funny.
benzo
Active member
Thanks H3ad,
I have not noticed a change either way. But I think thats not necessarily a bad thing. As long as it doesn't get worse right? When leaves twist, do they ever straighten out or is it like a deficiency...once damage is done, the affected leaves don't improve but new growth is ok?
Does anyone have any other suggestions to improve on? By the way, the plants are about 18" tall. I am waiting for a few more cuts before I send them to the flower room. Don't want to fire up only 1, let alone both, of my 1k HPS lights until I can fill the canopy up. Thats a lot of power for only 4 plants right now.
check out my grow thread. I got the same issues.
but im not using superthrive at all.....
i think it has to due with heat.. or maybe humidity?
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=168155
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hisser
mydnytetoker, I faced some problems when using superthrive at high doses, like half a tsp per gallon, not all plants can take that much, I found that around 4 drops per gallon is more than enough and safe.(bottle says 1 drop per gallon)
mydnytetoker
Member
Benzo, Hisser - I'm not exactly sure what caused the twisting. pH seemed to be ok. I did get them too close to the lamp for a short time and thats when I saw the leaf edges curl. I have been using superthrive on all my plants and the only ones to show the twisting were the MVTF's. I cut it out of all my established plants and plan to only use it on stressed plants at low doses. Plants are looking a little better. Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it.
Benzo, where did you get your Blueberry cuts from? In Cali?
Benzo, where did you get your Blueberry cuts from? In Cali?
benzo
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Benzo, Hisser - I'm not exactly sure what caused the twisting. pH seemed to be ok. I did get them too close to the lamp for a short time and thats when I saw the leaf edges curl. I have been using superthrive on all my plants and the only ones to show the twisting were the MVTF's. I cut it out of all my established plants and plan to only use it on stressed plants at low doses. Plants are looking a little better. Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it.
Benzo, where did you get your Blueberry cuts from? In Cali?
Ah.. so my cmh musta been to close to the canopy i guess. its now 1 foot above.
9 more posts to go.. then I can pm you where.
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hisser
mydnytetoker, some plants are more sensitive to the conditions you provide them with, even within the same strain sometimes, it can be anything, lights, temps, or a feeding schedule, thats why you gotta raise the levels gradually, specially with superthrive since its mostly hormones. Best of luck on your ladies
aasin527
Active member
well i finally got with the program and made the switch as well. i feel like a total newb. so much to learn and understand. i already overfed lol. i dropped the levels down last night and added some epsom (i don't think my coco was buffered previously) and they look better literally overnight. i'm growing grapefruit x blueberry, vanilluna and flo btw. great thread
P. Dondrub
Member
I'm in preflower with the h3ad formula, they look great about 14 days in!!!!
I was thinking of supplementing from next week, lowering the micro the about half strength and trading it for cannazym.
Or maybe if someone could just point me to the page that shows the late flower formula??? A lot to look through here.
Thanks!
I was thinking of supplementing from next week, lowering the micro the about half strength and trading it for cannazym.
Or maybe if someone could just point me to the page that shows the late flower formula??? A lot to look through here.
Thanks!
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DonkDBZ
This run instead of 9ml of Bloom I used the new Hydroplex, Snow Storm and Sugar Daddy. Looking denser and frostier but....nutrient cost went up
Nutrient profile is still bout the same (H3ads profile works like a charm)
9ml bloom with sweet
Hydroplex,sugar daddy, snowstorm
hard to tell from photo's but in a week or so the scale will tell for sure. Once again though H3ad ratio with your choice of nute brand works every time
Nutrient profile is still bout the same (H3ads profile works like a charm)
9ml bloom with sweet
Hydroplex,sugar daddy, snowstorm
hard to tell from photo's but in a week or so the scale will tell for sure. Once again though H3ad ratio with your choice of nute brand works every time
Grat3fulh3ad - First off, I want to thank you for taking the time to share your wealth of knowledge with all of us. It's really nice to see people taking the time to share what works for them with others.
I spent my afternoon reading through this whole thread. I am on my 3rd grow and first with coco as my medium. Due to crappy water where I live I am using Reverse Osmosis. Our house is on a water softener so using tap water is out of the question and the spigots outside show the same pH/PPM values 7.5+/800ppm+.
I started off reading Rez's thread and have the Micro/Bloom/Kool-Bloom Powder, I also have Cal-Mag from my last runs with the RO water.
After reading through all 77 pages today I think I am not watering often enough and possibly time to boost my nutrients up a bit. I've been doing half strength at 5.7-5.8 once a day. I am in 16oz cups with 1in of chunky perlite on the bottom, I get runoff after about 30-40ml. I think I'm going to start feeding them twice a day at this point.
I have 2 questions.
1: Based on the photo below, should I start them on full feeding?
2: At what point should I transplant from my 16oz solo cups? My final pots are Bato Rose Buckets which are 7" square/9.75" heigh @ 1.72gal
I spent my afternoon reading through this whole thread. I am on my 3rd grow and first with coco as my medium. Due to crappy water where I live I am using Reverse Osmosis. Our house is on a water softener so using tap water is out of the question and the spigots outside show the same pH/PPM values 7.5+/800ppm+.
I started off reading Rez's thread and have the Micro/Bloom/Kool-Bloom Powder, I also have Cal-Mag from my last runs with the RO water.
After reading through all 77 pages today I think I am not watering often enough and possibly time to boost my nutrients up a bit. I've been doing half strength at 5.7-5.8 once a day. I am in 16oz cups with 1in of chunky perlite on the bottom, I get runoff after about 30-40ml. I think I'm going to start feeding them twice a day at this point.
I have 2 questions.
1: Based on the photo below, should I start them on full feeding?
2: At what point should I transplant from my 16oz solo cups? My final pots are Bato Rose Buckets which are 7" square/9.75" heigh @ 1.72gal
Well, I upped the strength of the nutes to full 6/9 last night and this morning the girls are finally getting some explosive growth - the roots are starting to swirl around the cups - I think in a few more days they'll be ready to transplant. I went ahead and watered again this morning along with a foliar feeding at 1/4 strength. As I live in the desert our humidity is usually under 20% in the tent - will this cause any issues with coco? I really don't want to have to run a humidifier.
you did right, if the girls are responding =].
With RH that low just be careful to keep the moisture level in the coco consistent.
If they'r in a tent, any open reservoir of h2o will add to the RH with a simple wick it'd add a lot.
They're going to be transpiring a lot.
With RH that low just be careful to keep the moisture level in the coco consistent.
If they'r in a tent, any open reservoir of h2o will add to the RH with a simple wick it'd add a lot.
They're going to be transpiring a lot.
Darth Fader
Member
Started out round 2 by trying to grow some OG Kush moms. 6/9 + extras (CalMag, Roots Excelurator, etc) . Developed several leaf problems. One of them, I was convinced, was an N deficiency. I reversed the 6/9 to 9/6 for one feeding ad then 2:1 (18/9) for the next feeding. These moms went from probable throwaways to fairly good looking in a matter of days.
I know the additives and pH affect the recipe, but it made me wonder about the premise of 6/9. Don't these plants have different nute requirements in veg vs. bloom? I understand all strains have diff requirements, but why would the nutrient profile (required) be the same through the whole life cycle of the plant?
I know the additives and pH affect the recipe, but it made me wonder about the premise of 6/9. Don't these plants have different nute requirements in veg vs. bloom? I understand all strains have diff requirements, but why would the nutrient profile (required) be the same through the whole life cycle of the plant?
