Advance Nutrients is an amazing brand

[Guest 18340]

ive had a side by side outdoor grow a few years back, MG tomatoe plant food and jacks professional k-trate, and i must say the jack pro out grew the MG and gave more compact and better tasting less harsh nugs.

dont ask me to explain it, i really cant as im no scientist, but i do know from my experience i wont ever smoke a bud that has been grown with MG, but thats my personal opinion, i have really high wuality standards, onlky high grade top shit, and MG just dont cut it.

MG tomatoe plant food has a really high phsphorous @ 6-12-6, which as you should know flushing out phosphorous is really hard and takes more than a month, where as the jacks pro K-trate has 14-5-35.

and just to be clear i have always used a low P fert with high K nand medium N, i have personnaly seen the diff.

and another thing is P is used by flowering plants to promote flowering sites and make nice beautifull flowers like tulips, sunflowers ect..... K is used by fruits an vegetables to gain weight and make nice large fleshy flowers/fruit , like broccoli, or coliflower ect...


so that why i have always been giving a light boost of P the first week of flowering, then i lower P and raise N and K , this i have been doing for years with absolutly great results.

i used to use some chem ferts called plant prod, and i would mix and match diff percentages of their nutes to get my own desired npk, with the right calculations its fairly easy.

but when i heard that AN is doin the same basic npk that i had been using for years i had to try it, so far i like it, all except the 20 bottles of nutes and the price, but if you follow the chart and make yourself a good schedule then its fairly easy

MG Tomato plant food is 18-18-21.

 

[toohighmf]

i'm tellin ya.. 20-20-20 grows & blooms anything beautifully..

 

[CaptainTrips]

what about botanicare sweet joke.....3 diff sweet, berry, citrus and grape...

all brand of fert take us for idiots , gh is not better....floranectar,floralicious ,floralicious plus...

There are 3 different "sweet" products, but my understanding is, you only use one of them and they are basically the same. And as far as GH, floralicious plus replaces the floralicious grow/bloom. FloraNectar is a "carbo" product like sweet, I myself am skeptical of such products, but at least GH will send you samples of any product they sell, so you can try it out without spending much $. (got several GH stuff coming for free to try out next grow)

 

[toohighmf]

Its like floralicious bloom with Diamond nectar. (highest grade humics available.) I actually like this stuff. its super concentrated, and I feel its a real benefit. definitely doesn't hurt anything.

 

[PetFlora]

I'm with evlme2. Bump the P in the first 7-10 days of bloom, then lower it. I keep N/K higher throughout, with more K after the first 7-10 days of bloom.

The k-trate sounds about right

 

[Guest 18340]

i'm tellin ya.. 20-20-20 grows & blooms anything beautifully..

I don't doubt that one bit brother...

 

[chefboy6969]

B-52 rocks...I LOVE IT


peace
Chefboy

 

[B. Friendly]

Its like floralicious bloom with Diamond nectar. (highest grade humics available.) I actually like this stuff. its super concentrated, and I feel its a real benefit. definitely doesn't hurt anything.

agree big time, my mj has much more trich's with floranectar, floralicious and diamond nectar

 

[mr noodles]

i'm tellin ya.. 20-20-20 grows & blooms anything beautifully..

thats all we used in 1988 and we had huge crop and pugent roadkill skunk .

hydro store where not born yet and our light came from the one that used to light the church and some other municipal wonder ...

things where a lot less complicated if you ask me.

 

[CaptainTrips]

Things are only as complicated as you make them. Also, hydro stores were certainly around back then, considering operation green merchant went down in 1989...

 

[toohighmf]

I have a store near me that has been around since 1969.

 

[dominicangreen]

wish MG or GH can realy meet marijuana nutrient needs but these companies do there studies on growing tomatoes
and AN grows marijuana and all studies are done for MJ.General Hydroponics been called out as a challenge to test in a lab to see who is the best and GH wants no testing or challenge because they know they will lose

 

[mr noodles]

I have a store near me that has been around since 1969.

lucky you all we had in northern canada was beer store...first hydro store came around 1991-2 and it was a small 5 x 5 section in a plastic molding coe in montreal .i travelled 250 miles for that

 

[HydroManiac]

Read the piece again KyndBud. AN use hardly any pharmaceutical grade elements. I think what the author is saying is AN are bogus marketers. Actually let me quote him from his site so you can't put up more bogus info (you sound like an AN rep feeding growers yet more shit and playing them for stupid). Quote....

"The “Micro Proteinate Mix” numbers that we have looked at (g/1000L at right of column) represent the amino proteinates that were used in a 1000L batch of AN Sensi Bloom and AN Sensi Grow in ANs Australian formulations. There is a total proteinate weight of 1500.6grams or approx (just over) 1.5kg in a 1000L batch of nutrient. Let’s say, hypothetically, that the 1000L batch of water and mineral elements (component fertilizers + water) weighs 1400kg; What we are then left with is a nutrient that contains approximately 0.108% of micro proteinates – the rest of the formulation (approx 99.892%) being made up of standard agricultural grade fertilizers and water. Looking at this another way… Based on the Australian Sensi Bloom formulation (or at least the formula I have) the total mineral (MAP, MKP, calcium nitrate, urea, potassium nitrate etc) equates to 558.5kg of component fertilizers in a total 1000 litre batch (with 110kg of this being derived from MKP –monopotassium phosphate- and MAP – mono ammonium phosphate-) with 1.5kg of the total component fertilizer weight, used in production, being micro proteinates. That is, 1.5kg of amino proteinates in a total of 558.5kg of mineral elements equates to 0.27% of the total mineral weight used in the production of 1000 litres of Sensi Grow and Bloom. When you put up these numbers things become somewhat clearer beyond the marketing jargon.
The bottom line: It sounds impressive from a marketing perspective to claim the use of “pharmaceutical grade” elements or micro proteinates in nutrients and additives (and certainly at least two companies are more than aware of this); however, AN are using amino proteinates at extremely low levels (for instance, AN add much higher levels of Fe as EDTA and DPTA, Zn as EDTA, and Cu as EDTA to the same formulations) and because of this any benefits gained from the use of amino proteinates – if any- are open to question (at least from a scientific/theoretical perspective)." Integral Hydroponics. G Low


For anyone that wants to see the exact g/L of pharmaceutical grade elements AN use go to the site. It is clear the author has the AN formulas and discusses their BS marketing intelligently with the science and chemistry of formulation. While we're at it here's ANs heavy metal content in their formulas.



SENSI BLOOM A 4.3-0-3.1

Cadmium 0.5000
Arsenic <0.2000
Lead <0.3000
Selenium <0.3000
Mercury <0.0030

SENSI BLOOM B 1.5-6.1-5.7

Cadmium <0.0500
Arsenic <0.2000
Mercury <0.0030
Lead <0.3000
Selenium <0.3000

SENSI GROW PART A 3.7-0-0

Cadmium 0.5000
Arsenic <0.2000
Lead <0.3000
Selenium <0.3000
Mercury <0.0030


SENSI GROW PART B 2.5-2.2-5.7

Cadmium <0.0500
Arsenic <0.2000
Lead <0.3000
Selenium <0.3000
Mercury <0.0030


No flaming KyndBud - let's bypass the AN bullshit and look at the science. I for one am fed up with these spam threads that so often seem to be fueled by AN reps.

I have tried several companies nutes and stopped using an because of all the haters but when I ran out of another product I was using I had some an left and used that and my stuff improved grew faster and bigger! I am no an rep just a grower that had better results using an then anything else. It seems like a lot of the haters have never even tried an they just don't like the way they do business. I tried gh a while back on advice from a store owner and an blew it away. Right now I am out of my sensi a-b and am using some pbp I have and the sensi not only works better but I get a lot more for my money I go through pbp like crazy not very concentrated.

 

[CaptainTrips]

wish MG or GH can realy meet marijuana nutrient needs but these companies do there studies on growing tomatoes
and AN grows marijuana and all studies are done for MJ.General Hydroponics been called out as a challenge to test in a lab to see who is the best and GH wants no testing or challenge because they know they will lose

I seriously it has anything to do with it, they just don't want to be associated with MJ, like any sane nutrient company at the present time. Some stores won't even carry Advanced due to that, and supposedly new DEA pressure...

 

[toohighmf]

Dominican, They have a 1,000,000 light test facility! how many lights of it are you running?
Product testing???? Scientists???? zyeah, ok! The product testing is done directly by the consumer and most of their claims are false. I'm telling you. I been there. Their are no test grows. only Ours... if everything was tested by true agricultural scientists, would they need to reformulate the line and calculator so often????

 

[Bud Bug]

General Hydroponics been called out as a challenge to test in a lab to see who is the best and GH wants no testing or challenge because they know they will lose

Care to show us the Cannabis testing results on here http://advancednutrients.com ?

 

[dominicangreen]

I seriously it has anything to do with it, they just don't want to be associated with MJ, like any sane nutrient company at the present time. Some stores won't even carry Advanced due to that, and supposedly new DEA pressure...

i would like to be associated with anything being grown because thats more money in my pockets you would think me being a nutrient company that is but the thing is i done grows using GH and i didnt get a good harvest like i did last grow so to my experiance i saw the difference.i'm not saying that other companies may produce as well but its clear that AN has good nutes and reliable.did anyone one notice in AN feeding chart there's no flushing at all i wonder why? guess maybe there not adding additional salts in there products? i used GH and had to flush every week or two and can see salt all over my rockwool cubes.i've heard of people in FL. using GH with b'cuz and super thrive and geting good yields.dont know much about the mix but willing to do a side by side test next grow to see what is better.if i can save money i'm all for it but if a produce cost much and yield alot then it makes up for the cost

Dominican, They have a 1,000,000 light test facility! how many lights of it are you running?
Product testing???? Scientists???? zyeah, ok! The product testing is done directly by the consumer and most of their claims are false. I'm telling you. I been there. Their are no test grows. only Ours... if everything was tested by true agricultural scientists, would they need to reformulate the line and calculator so often????

i dont have 1,000,000 lights but am runing 18,000w lights right now am growing PK 24-10 gallon buckets all hydro under 10,000w and SSH 20-5 gallon buckets hydro under 8,000w.i dont have time at the moment to play and do testing but after i harvest i will
it's all good man its just everyones opinions do what works for you

big up,DG

 

[Bud Bug]

i would like to be associated with anything being grown because thats more money in my pockets you would think me being a nutrient company that is

Yes you tell GH a multi multi million dollar company or even Canna and DM how to run their successful companies to the ground. I bet you anything that even if cannabis became legal GH and other companies wouldn't be associated with weed.

Oh maybe you should shows us where in the Rosebud magazine does AN advertise that their products are for Cannabis in the Voodoo/Big Bud ads? All I see is stock photos of tomatoes, peppers and flowers. Why is that?

I'm still waiting for you to show us those cannabis testing results on the AN site. After all this is how they test their products, isn't it?

Now just to make is clear I am against any company that is full of shit and that takes their customers for a ride whether it be AN, GH, DM, Canna and etc...

 

[toohighmf]

dominican, not trying to discredit you at all. love your work! I just want you to know that AN has no test facility, and that WE the consumer are the testers. thats all.