To Legalize Cannabis Or Not To?

[Frozenguy]

Well I can't help but think how far the movement has come. When I step back and look at it, we have come and are going so far. I love it.

26020. (a) The department shall license commercial cultivators of
marijuana. The fee for the license shall be set at an amount that
will reasonably cover the costs of assuring compliance with the
regulations to be issued, but may not exceed five thousand dollars
($5,000) for an initial application, or two thousand five hundred
dollars ($2,500) per year for each annual renewal.
(b) Regulations adopted by the department pursuant to this chapter
shall require background checks of applicants be conducted. At the
request of the department, the Attorney General or any local agency
shall provide summary criminal history information to the department
as provided in Sections 11105 and 13300 of the Penal Code.
26030. The department shall, with consideration for the risks
posed by cultivation of a valuable crop with public health
implications that is subject to significant fees, issue and enforce
regulations concerning commercial cultivators of marijuana that
provide for all of the following:
(a) Adequate security to reasonably protect against unauthorized
access to the marijuana crop at all stages of cultivation,
harvesting, drying, processing, packing, and delivery to licensed
sales outlets or wholesalers. Each licensee shall be required to
provide a detailed crop security plan, along with satisfactory proof
of the financial ability of the licensee to provide for that
security.
(b) Appropriate employment rules, including the rule that a person
under 21 years of age may not have access to marijuana during
cultivation, storage, drying, or packing, or at any other time.
(c) Safeguards to assure that a person under 21 years of age may
not transport marijuana on behalf of a commercial buyer or commercial
seller.
(d) Restrictions to ensure that marijuana is not used or consumed
on the premises of a commercial cultivator.
(e) An inspection and tracking system to reasonably ensure that
all marijuana produced by the cultivator that is eventually sold is
assessed pursuant to Part 14.6 (commencing with Section 34001) of
Division 2 of the Revenue and Taxation Code.
(f) Recordkeeping consistent with the regulatory needs of the
department.
(g) Ensure that all applicable statutory environmental and
agricultural requirements are followed in the cultivation of
marijuana.

ya, different legislation..

 

[torealforthcbay]

Section 11361 a)




I dunno bout all that.. it says that it doesn't affect the laws pertaining to possession by minors so whatever the law is now is what it will be when this initiative is passed

"This Act is not intended to affect the application or enforcement of state laws relating to... safety or protection of children..: [relating to possession on school grounds], [relating to minors as amended herein]"

It's number 2 of the "Intent" section.

That being said I don't think use in public, and especially use by (or contributing to the delinquency of) minors should be any reason to not vote for it.

right. just as kids in possession of alcohol go to the clink so will kids with herb. anything to keep the kids sober i feel is a good thing. imo

 

[torealforthcbay]

Well I can't help but think how far the movement has come. When I step back and look at it, we have come and are going so far. I love it.



ya, different legislation..

its wild isnt it. we are close to having laws protecting anyone in california with a bag of herb!! thats just awsome. while allowing anyone who wants the right to grow. and also maintaining medi herb. wow. what a great fucken state!!!!

 

[SeniorBuzz]

2real: What Senior Buzz posted is from the AB390 remake, AB2254, not the initiative. where he got it, the link is at the top of the quote

Believe me Frozen, I feel you.. I'm just glad the initiative gives room for the legislature to expand on its intentions. This could one day include allowing smoking in public. As far as the licensing and all that, it doesn't list any fees (that I recall) only that local governments are free to set them and local governments will handle license applications. It's under the commercial regulations section of the initiative, section 11301

CJ..this will be regulated by, or under the auspices of, the ABC...they will no doubt be doing a substantial amount of hiring.

up to $5,000 for a grow license, $2500 for an annual renewal, with stiff requirements on handling, and processing, security, etc.

same for the wholesaler/middleman

 

[ChronJohn]

Buzz you're still talking about AB2254.

I was referring to the tax cannabis 2010 initiative that I linked to in post #198

it lists no specific license fees, only that the local government has the authority to charge them, under section 11301

but you are correct regardless of whether the initiative passes or ammiano's bill, a lot of jobs will be created. a whole fucking lot!

 

[SeniorBuzz]

Well I can't help but think how far the movement has come. When I step back and look at it, we have come and are going so far. I love it.



ya, different legislation..

AB 2254 would likely be the foundation of the legislative language implementing the legalization of marijuana

 

[ChronJohn]

^ You got a point there ^

 

[SeniorBuzz]

Buzz you're still talking about AB2254.

I was referring to the tax cannabis 2010 initiative that I linked to in post #198

it lists no specific license fees, only that the local government has the authority to charge them, under section 11301

but you are correct regardless of whether the initiative passes or ammiano's bill, a lot of jobs will be created. a whole fucking lot!

AB 2254 would likely be the foundation of the legislative language implementing the legalization of marijuana

 

[torealforthcbay]

i dont have A problem with what that bill you (buzz) are refering to says. i think thats a pretty good model for how we should regulate cultivation. i read the whole thing. its all about security and being able to prove you have the means to comply.

i bet local regulations would be cheaper and a less extensive then state requirements but this is in no way a fact and just my opinion.

 

[SeniorBuzz]

FYI

Marijuana Intercepted at our Southwest Border for
the first 5 months of FY2010 (in lbs.)
Source DHS/CBP

176,655 234,457 278,660 206,999 258,390

TOTAL 1,155,161

FY 2010 YTD TOTAL OCT NOV DEC JAN FEB
Western Region 488,407 74,049 89,854 123,539 92,515 108,450
Central Region 667,565 102,926 144,739 155,135 114,825 149,940
Eastern Region 2,923 291 546 401 546 1,138
Southwest Border 1,155,161 176,655 234,457 278,660 206,999 258,390
Northern Border 2,939 360 375 342 837 1,025
Coastal Border 794 252 307 72 50 113
Grand Total 1,158,895 177,266 235,139 279,075 207,886 259,528


UNITED STATES BORDER DRUG INTERCEPTS (Source DHS/CBP)
YEAR---MARIJUANA (lbs)----COCAINE(lbs)----HEROIN(oz)----METH(lbs)
1999-------1,170,941------------29,672-------------771-------------xxx
2000-------1,316,849------------23,203-----------1,209-------------18
2001-------1,166,764------------18,535-----------1,491------------144
2002-------1,234,329------------14,334-----------2,516------------229
2003-------1,350,809------------14,892-----------3,852------------356
2004-------1,347,356------------14,819-----------2,316------------977
2005-------1,208,663------------11,903-----------3,206------------728
2006-------1,369,602------------12,885-----------2,758------------594
2007-------1,859,299------------14,242-----------1,866------------342
2008-------1,642,420-------------9,272--------------735------------xxx

I didn't receive FY2009

 

[Godless]

right. just as kids in possession of alcohol go to the clink so will kids with herb. anything to keep the kids sober i feel is a good thing. imo

Care to discuss your opinion in this thread?

 

[Travieso]

whats up everyone. ive gathered tons of info from this site since a long time ago. its been a lot of help. never posted tho. i was on ********* pretty hard core as danko.
its nice to see that most of you on this site are getting what that bill really means. a lot of people keep getting caught up in non sense and false truths that seem to be deeply perpetuated through the marijuana community, at least on thc farmer. i battled pretty much every one on why this bill is good. disproving everyone of there "facts" with actual literature. after 189 pages and 3 days they banned me for insulting some dick heads intelligence for posting rumor and here say. while the entire time he would refer to me as "a fucking troll" "an idiot" and mad other shit. dude went off pretty much every time i proved him wrong. and he never supported his argument for why he is going to vote no. talking about all this richard lee is the only one whos gonna benefit, your restricted to 5x5 area (even medi patients) and you can only have an ounce, and way more nonsense. It is fucking crazy talk, and any one who can actually read and interpret this bill knows that.
i welcome any challenge on this bill!!
and ill do my best to disprove the claim.

this bill is written in protection of all medi patients and california cannabis users 21 and up!
and its written well. and any issues you feel arnt addressed in this bill, are like that because there is no model to go with on legal cannabis. so the state has set a great framework and the local governments can fine tune commercial access.

Yeah alot of overmoderating going on over there especially by RC. I see your ban has been lifted though. keep telling it like it is bro!

 

[SeniorBuzz]

The Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010
http://www.taxcannabis.org/index.php/pages/initiative/

Changes California Law to Legalize Marijuana and Allow It to Be Regulated and Taxed. Initiative Statute.

Allows people 21 years old or older to possess, cultivate, or transport marijuana for personal use. Permits local governments to regulate and tax commercial production and sale of marijuana to people 21 years old or older. Prohibits people from possessing marijuana on school grounds, using it in public, smoking it while minors are present, or providing it to anyone under 21 years old. Maintains current prohibitions against driving while impaired. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local governments: Savings of up to several tens of millions of dollars annually to state and local governments on the costs of incarcerating and supervising certain marijuana offenders. Unknown but potentially major tax, fee, and benefit assessment revenues to state and local government related to the production and sale of marijuana products.

Section 1: Name
This Act shall be known as the “Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010.”

Section 2: Findings, Intent and Purposes
This Act, adopted by the People of the State of California, makes the following Findings and Statement of Intent and Purpose:
A. Findings
1. California’s laws criminalizing cannabis (marijuana) have failed and need to be reformed. Despite spending decades arresting millions of non-violent cannabis consumers, we have failed to control cannabis or reduce its availability.
2. According to surveys, roughly 100 million Americans (around 1/3 of the country’s population) acknowledge that they have used cannabis, 15 million of those Americans having consumed cannabis in the last month. Cannabis consumption is simply a fact of life for a large percentage of Americans.
3. Despite having some of the strictest cannabis laws in the world, the United States has the largest number of cannabis consumers. The percentage of our citizens who consume cannabis is double that of the percentage of people who consume cannabis in the Netherlands, a country where the selling and adult possession of cannabis is allowed.
4. According to The National Research Council’s recent study of the 11 U.S. states where cannabis is currently decriminalized, there is little apparent relationship between severity of sanctions and the rate of consumption.
5. Cannabis has fewer harmful effects than either alcohol or cigarettes, which are both legal for adult consumption. Cannabis is not physically addictive, does not have long term toxic effects on the body, and does not cause its consumers to become violent.
6. There is an estimated $15 billion in illegal cannabis transactions in California each year. Taxing and regulating cannabis, like we do with alcohol and cigarettes, will generate billions of dollars in annual revenues for California to fund what matters most to Californians: jobs, health care, schools and libraries, roads, and more.
7. California wastes millions of dollars a year targeting, arresting, trying, convicting, and imprisoning non-violent citizens for cannabis related offenses. This money would be better used to combat violent crimes and gangs.
8. The illegality of cannabis enables for the continuation of an out-of-control criminal market, which in turn spawns other illegal and often violent activities. Establishing legal, regulated sales outlets would put dangerous street dealers out of business.
B. Purposes
1. Reform California’s cannabis laws in a way that will benefit our state.
2. Regulate cannabis like we do alcohol: Allow adults to possess and consume small amounts of cannabis.
3. Implement a legal regulatory framework to give California more control over the cultivation, processing, transportation, distribution, and sales of cannabis.
4. Implement a legal regulatory framework to better police and prevent access to and consumption of cannabis by minors in California.
5. Put dangerous, underground street dealers out of business, so their influence in our communities will fade.
6. Provide easier, safer access for patients who need cannabis for medical purposes.
7. Ensure that if a city decides not to tax and regulate the sale of cannabis, that buying and selling cannabis within that city’s limits remain illegal, but that the city’s citizens still have the right to possess and consume small amounts, except as permitted under Health and Safety Sections 11362.5 and 11362.7 through 11362.9.
8. Ensure that if a city decides it does want to tax and regulate the buying and selling of cannabis (to and from adults only), that a strictly controlled legal system is implemented to oversee and regulate cultivation, distribution, and sales, and that the city will have control over how and how much cannabis can be bought and sold, except as permitted under Health and Safety Sections 11362.5 and 11362.7 through 11362.9.
9. Tax and regulate cannabis to generate billions of dollars for our state and local governments to fund what matters most: jobs, healthcare, schools and libraries, parks, roads, transportation, and more.
10. Stop arresting thousands of non-violent cannabis consumers, freeing up police resources and saving millions of dollars each year, which could be used for apprehending truly dangerous criminals and keeping them locked up, and for other essential state needs that lack funding.
11. Allow the Legislature to adopt a statewide regulatory system for a commercial cannabis industry.
12. Make cannabis available for scientific, medical, industrial, and research purposes.
13. Permit California to fulfill the state’s obligations under the United States Constitution to enact laws concerning health, morals, public welfare and safety within the State.
14. Permit the cultivation of small amounts of cannabis for personal consumption.
C. Intent
1. This Act is intended to limit the application and enforcement of state and local laws relating to possession, transportation, cultivation, consumption and sale of cannabis, including but not limited to the following, whether now existing or adopted in the future: Health and Safety Code sections 11014.5 and 11364.5 [relating to drug paraphernalia]; 11054 [relating to cannabis or tetrahydrocannabinols]; 11357 [relating to possession]; 11358 [relating to cultivation]; 11359 [possession for sale]; 11360 [relating to transportation and sales]; 11366 [relating to maintenance of places]; 11366.5 [relating to use of property]; 11370 [relating to punishment]; 11470 [relating to forfeiture]; 11479 [relating to seizure and destruction]; 11703 [relating to definitions regarding illegal substances]; 11705 [actions for use of illegal controlled substance]; Vehicle Code sections 23222 and 40000.15 [relating to possession].
2. This Act is not intended to affect the application or enforcement of the following state laws relating to public health and safety or protection of children and others: Health and Safety Code sections 11357 [relating to possession on school grounds]; 11361 [relating to minors as amended herein]; 11379.6 [relating to chemical production]; 11532 [relating to loitering to commit a crime or acts not authorized by law]; Vehicle Code section 23152 [relating to driving while under the influence]; Penal Code section 272 [relating to contributing to the delinquency of a minor]; nor any law prohibiting use of controlled substances in the workplace or by specific persons whose jobs involve public safety.

Section 3: Lawful Activities
Article 5 of Chapter 5 of Division 10 of the Health and Safety Code, commencing with section 11300 is added to read:
Section 11300: Personal Regulation and Controls
(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it is lawful and shall not be a public offense under California law for any person 21 years of age or older to:
(i) Personally possess, process, share, or transport not more than one ounce of cannabis, solely for that individual’s personal consumption, and not for sale.
(ii) Cultivate, on private property by the owner, lawful occupant, or other lawful resident or guest of the private property owner or lawful occupant, cannabis plants for personal consumption only, in an area of not more than twenty-five square feet per private residence or, in the absence of any residence, the parcel. Cultivation on leased or rented property may be subject to approval from the owner of the property. Provided that, nothing in this section shall permit unlawful or unlicensed cultivation of cannabis on any public lands.
(iii) Possess on the premises where grown the living and harvested plants and results of any harvest and processing of plants lawfully cultivated pursuant to section 11300(a)(ii), for personal consumption.
(iv) Possess objects, items, tools, equipment, products and materials associated with activities permitted under this subsection.
(b) “Personal consumption” shall include but is not limited to possession and consumption, in any form, of cannabis in a residence or other non-public place, and shall include licensed premises open to the public authorized to permit on-premises consumption of cannabis by a local government pursuant to section 11301.
(c) “Personal consumption” shall not include, and nothing in this Act shall permit cannabis:
(i) possession for sale regardless of amount, except by a person who is licensed or permitted to do so under the terms of an ordinance adopted pursuant to section 11301;
(ii) consumption in public or in a public place;
(iii) consumption by the operator of any vehicle, boat or aircraft while it is being operated, or that impairs the operator;
(iv) smoking cannabis in any space while minors are present.

Section 11301: Commercial Regulations and Controls
Notwithstanding any other provision of state or local law, a local government may adopt ordinances, regulations, or other acts having the force of law to control, license, regulate, permit or otherwise authorize, with conditions, the following:
(a) cultivation, processing, distribution, the safe and secure transportation, sale and possession for sale of cannabis, but only by persons and in amounts lawfully authorized;
(b) retail sale of not more than one ounce per transaction, in licensed premises, to persons 21 years or older, for personal consumption and not for resale;
(c) appropriate controls on cultivation, transportation, sales, and consumption of cannabis to strictly prohibit access to cannabis by persons under the age of 21;
(d) age limits and controls to ensure that all persons present in, employed by, or in any way involved in the operation of, any such licensed premises are 21 or older;
(e) consumption of cannabis within licensed premises;
(f) safe and secure transportation of cannabis from a licensed premises for cultivation or processing, to a licensed premises for sale or on-premises consumption of cannabis;
(g) prohibit and punish through civil fines or other remedies the possession, sale, possession for sale, cultivation, processing, or transportation of cannabis that was not obtained lawfully from a person pursuant to this section or section 11300;
(h) appropriate controls on licensed premises for sale, cultivation, processing, or sale and on-premises consumption, of cannabis, including limits on zoning and land use, locations, size, hours of operation, occupancy, protection of adjoining and nearby properties and persons from unwanted exposure, advertising, signs and displays, and other controls necessary for protection of the public health and welfare;
(i) appropriate environmental and public health controls to ensure that any licensed premises minimizes any harm to the environment, adjoining and nearby landowners, and persons passing by;
(j) appropriate controls to restrict public displays, or public consumption of cannabis;
(k) appropriate taxes or fees pursuant to section 11302;
(l) such larger amounts as the local authority deems appropriate and proper under local circumstances, than those established under section 11300(a) for personal possession and cultivation, or under this section for commercial cultivation, processing, transportation and sale by persons authorized to do so under this section;
(m) any other appropriate controls necessary for protection of the public health and welfare.

Section 11302: Imposition and Collection of Taxes and Fees
(a) Any ordinance, regulation or other act adopted pursuant to section 11301 may include imposition of appropriate general, special or excise, transfer or transaction taxes, benefit assessments, or fees, on any activity authorized pursuant to such enactment, in order to permit the local government to raise revenue, or to recoup any direct or indirect costs associated with the authorized activity, or the permitting or licensing scheme, including without limitation: administration; applications and issuance of licenses or permits; inspection of licensed premises and other enforcement of ordinances adopted under section 11301, including enforcement against unauthorized activities.
(b) Any licensed premises shall be responsible for paying all federal, state and local taxes, fees, fines, penalties or other financial responsibility imposed on all or similarly situated businesses, facilities or premises, including without limitation income taxes, business taxes, license fees, and property taxes, without regard to or identification of the business or items or services sold.

Section 11303: Seizure
(a) Notwithstanding sections 11470 and 11479 of the Health and Safety Code or any other provision of law, no state or local law enforcement agency or official shall attempt to, threaten to, or in fact seize or destroy any cannabis plant, cannabis seeds or cannabis that is lawfully cultivated, processed, transported, possessed, possessed for sale, sold or used in compliance with this Act or any local government ordinance, law or regulation adopted pursuant to this Act.

Section 11304: Effect of Act and Definitions
(a) This Act shall not be construed to affect, limit or amend any statute that forbids impairment while engaging in dangerous activities such as driving, or that penalizes bringing cannabis to a school enrolling pupils in any grade from kindergarten through 12, inclusive.
(b) Nothing in this Act shall be construed or interpreted to permit interstate or international transportation of cannabis. This Act shall be construed to permit a person to transport cannabis in a safe and secure manner from a licensed premises in one city or county to a licensed premises in another city or county pursuant to any ordinances adopted in such cities or counties, notwithstanding any other state law or the lack of any such ordinance in the intervening cities or counties.
(c) No person shall be punished, fined, discriminated against, or be denied any right or privilege for lawfully engaging in any conduct permitted by this Act or authorized pursuant to Section 11301 of this Act. Provided however, that the existing right of an employer to address consumption that actually impairs job performance by an employee shall not be affected.
(d) Definitions
For purposes of this Act:
(i) “Marijuana” and “cannabis” are interchangeable terms that mean all parts of the plant Genus Cannabis, whether growing or not; the resin extracted from any part of the plant; concentrated cannabis; edible products containing same; and every active compound, manufacture, derivative, or preparation of the plant, or resin.
(ii) “One ounce” means 28.5 grams.
(iii) For purposes of section 11300(a)(ii) “cannabis plant” means all parts of a living Cannabis plant.
(iv) In determining whether an amount of cannabis is or is not in excess of the amounts permitted by this Act, the following shall apply:
(a) only the active amount of the cannabis in an edible cannabis product shall be included;
(b) living and harvested cannabis plants shall be assessed by square footage, not by weight in determining the amounts set forth in section 11300(a);
(c) in a criminal proceeding a person accused of violating a limitation in this Act shall have the right to an affirmative defense that the cannabis was reasonably related to his or her personal consumption.
(v) “residence” means a dwelling or structure, whether permanent or temporary, on private or public property, intended for occupation by a person or persons for residential purposes, and includes that portion of any structure intended for both commercial and residential purposes.
(vi) “local government” means a city, county, or city and county.
(vii) “licensed premises” is any commercial business, facility, building, land or area that has a license, permit or is otherwise authorized to cultivate, process, transport, sell, or permit on-premises consumption, of cannabis pursuant to any ordinance or regulation adopted by a local government pursuant to section 11301, or any subsequently enacted state statute or regulation.

Section 4: Prohibition on Furnishing Marijuana to Minors
Section 11361 of the Health and Safety Code is amended to read:
Prohibition on Furnishing Marijuana to Minors
(a) Every person 18 years of age or over who hires, employs, or uses a minor in transporting, carrying, selling, giving away, preparing for sale, or peddling any marijuana, who unlawfully sells, or offers to sell, any marijuana to a minor, or who furnishes, administers, or gives, or offers to furnish, administer, or give any marijuana to a minor under 14 years of age, or who induces a minor to use marijuana in violation of law shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a period of three, five, or seven years.
(b) Every person 18 years of age or over who furnishes, administers, or gives, or offers to furnish, administer, or give, any marijuana to a minor 14 years of age or older shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a period of three, four, or five years.
(c) Every person 21 years of age or over who knowingly furnishes, administers, or gives, or offers to furnish, administer or give, any marijuana to a person aged 18 years or older, but younger than 21 years of age, shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a period of up to six months and be fined up to $1,000 for each offense.
(d) In addition to the penalties above, any person who is licensed, permitted or authorized to perform any act pursuant to Section 11301, who while so licensed, permitted or authorized, negligently furnishes, administers, gives or sells, or offers to furnish, administer, give or sell, any marijuana to any person younger than 21 years of age shall not be permitted to own, operate, be employed by, assist or enter any licensed premises authorized under Section 11301 for a period of one year.

Section 5: Amendment
Pursuant to Article 2, section 10(c) of the California Constitution, this Act may be amended either by a subsequent measure submitted to a vote of the People at a statewide election; or by statute validly passed by the Legislature and signed by the Governor, but only to further the purposes of the Act. Such permitted amendments include but are not limited to:
(a) Amendments to the limitations in section 11300, which limitations are minimum thresholds and the Legislature may adopt less restrictive limitations.
(b) Statutes and authorize regulations to further the purposes of the Act to establish a statewide regulatory system for a commercial cannabis industry that addresses some or all of the items referenced in Sections 11301 and 11302.
(c) Laws to authorize the production of hemp or non-active cannabis for horticultural and industrial purposes.

Section 6: Severability
If any provision of this measure or the application thereof to any person or circumstance is held invalid, that invalidity shall not affect other provisions or applications of the measure that can be given effect without the invalid provision or application, and to this end the provisions of this measure are severable.

 

[torealforthcbay]

Yeah alot of overmoderating going on over there especially by RC. I see your ban has been lifted though. keep telling it like it is bro!

thanks bro. i havent even checked. RC pissed me off pretty good. it was supposed to be a 7 day. ogr had my back tho.

 

[torealforthcbay]

Care to discuss your opinion in this thread?

idk. lol are they complaining about the fact you cant smoke weed around minors? i mean in my book thats just proper parenting. the last thing you need is to be stoned and zoned out while your 1 year old is crawling all over the house. besides you can still posses as much as you want in your house, and in all actuality you can smoke as much as you want in front of you kids, cause really, whose gonna stop you? thats just a shitty thing to do imo. if my kids never touch herb, thats fine by me. id be really stoked if they waited till they were 18 or 21. i personally feel smoking herb at such a young age has done some damage to my life. id bet cash money if i never toked id be in a regular job doing regular shit. im a grower now, and i love it. but it took years and the state of cali to push some initiatives before my folks could respect me for what i do. they do now, and are major supporters of medi and rec herb.
also that thread got into to preserving strains.. was the argument brought up how, for some reason, that would be an issue with this new initiative? or maybe he just doesnt want his kids to miss out on NL#5 lol . im all about preserving strains. that seems like something anyone could do.

 

[SeniorBuzz]

The war on drugs is a forty year failure. Prohibitionist policies based on eradication, interdiction and criminalization of consumption simply haven't worked. The war on drugs is an enormous waste of resources. The United States now incarcerates people at a rate nearly five times the world average. In large part, that’s because the number of people in prison for drug offenses has risen from under 50,000 in 1980 to over half million today. Until the war on drugs with their draconian drug laws came along, our incarceration rate was roughly the same as that of other countries. Jeffrey Miron, a Harvard economist, has found that federal, state and local governments spend $44.1 billion annually enforcing drug prohibitions. We spend seven times as much on drug interdiction, policing and imprisonment as we do on treatment. It's time to treat drug addiction as healthcare problem and not a law enforcement problem. It is also high time to consider legalization, not as a panacea but as the least worst option.
http://mydd.com/2010/3/1/the-invasion

The Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010
http://www.taxcannabis.org/index.php/pages/initiative/

AB 2254 http://bit.ly/besEZw

 

[lost in a sea]

if it is legalized, then pharmaceutical companies will be on it in a flash.........buying up the rights to all the strains, ruining them for general consumption, whilst suing this community for growing their intellectual property....

so many people are being tempted by this shiny apple, one bite into legalization and cannabis is fucked.........

yeah you want your legal meds.......and thats all you want.....must be good if it happens right ?

the only way we can keep ganja's soul, is away from big business....

 

[ogsunk]

legalized plzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[SeniorBuzz]

if it is legalized, then pharmaceutical companies will be on it in a flash.........buying up the rights to all the strains, ruining them for general consumption, whilst suing this community for growing their intellectual property....

so many people are being tempted by this shiny apple, one bite into legalization and cannabis is fucked.........

yeah you want your legal meds.......and thats all you want.....must be good if it happens right ?

the only way we can keep ganja's soul, is away from big business....

Big Pharma, or anyone else, won't own the rights to strains. If you are a commercial grower, your worry will be meeting the license, accounting, and grow requirements, let alone competing with corporations, which will no doubt enter the market, as cannabis is treated much like alcohol, and tobacco.

 

[torealforthcbay]

if it is legalized, then pharmaceutical companies will be on it in a flash.........buying up the rights to all the strains, ruining them for general consumption, whilst suing this community for growing their intellectual property....

so many people are being tempted by this shiny apple, one bite into legalization and cannabis is fucked.........

yeah you want your legal meds.......and thats all you want.....must be good if it happens right ?

the only way we can keep ganja's soul, is away from big business....

well since marijuana is a schedule 1 drug listed by our federal government, pharma co's in america cant touch it for anything besides study, and even thats a bitch. even if cali does legalize, big companies will be breaking federal laws by growing farms. im sayen even if this bill passes and give me all the rights in california to grow hella herb, im still not going to start a farm the feds could bust.

besides this bill calls for recreation marijuana not medical, which we already legally have, and i still havent purchased any bud from a pharmaceutical company. explain that brother? shit we even did away with plant count laws for medi herb and you still dont see a single company getting into medical marijuana. why? because its federally illegal.