Ghostwolf's 2nd Bigger, Better PC Grow Case and Grow

[detoneSmoker]

detone thanks, I just hope the lower temps continue, but right now it looks promising. I had a idea for a mini Co2 gen for the first case using two narrow tall glass pepper bottles with yeast, sugar and water, remixing them each night when I checked the girls but they were so small that they didn't produce enough Co2 to help plus I was thinking that the fans could be sucking it out before it could do any good anyway so I stopped. Now I've read about using a two liter bottle as a gen and just running a hose from the bottle cap into the case which I'm sure it would work better. What are you using for one?

20oz bottle and 1/4 inch hose lol.

 

[Ghostwolf]

20oz bottle and 1/4 inch hose lol.

That's cool. I still have enough yeast that I had for that purpose anyway I think I may try it again. How much of every thing do you use in it and how many days does it last for you?

 

[ScrubNinja]

I haven't heard anyone talk about DE powder since I worked for a swimming pool co. years ago, until I read that you were using it in your thread the other day. I know that it is very harmful if breathed I got a small whiff once and it stopped me from breathing dead in my tracks, it will dry your lungs instantly. It has to handled with care. I used it outside on the ground to kill fleas and other pests. But the main thing it was used for was pool filtering. I believe it's just the remains of microscopic marine animals like plankton. Please tell me what else is it used for in growing.

Yeah bro ya can't use the pool type of DE due to what you mention. There is actually food grade DE available, and that is apparently safe to inhale. Well, not safe, but you know what I mean. People and animals can ingest the food grade.

I'm new to it myself but I sprinkle about a small teaspoon per litre of potting medium for smaller plants, on the surface, and it soon disappears as it's watered in. Some people mix it straight into their soil mix. You can also use a bottled silica product but I'm not sure how organic those are (the DE is organic). Peace.

Oh btw you can get the food grade DE on ebay pretty cheap in little packets instead of buying a big industrial type bag. Here's a link describing benefits of silica to plants.

 

[Ghostwolf]

Yeah bro ya can't use the pool type of DE due to what you mention. There is actually food grade DE available, and that is apparently safe to inhale. Well, not safe, but you know what I mean. People and animals can ingest the food grade.

I'm new to it myself but I sprinkle about a small teaspoon per litre of potting medium for smaller plants, on the surface, and it soon disappears as it's watered in. Some people mix it straight into their soil mix. You can also use a bottled silica product but I'm not sure how organic those are (the DE is organic). Peace.

Oh btw you can get the food grade DE on ebay pretty cheap in little packets instead of buying a big industrial type bag. Here's a link describing benefits of silica to plants.

Thanks Scrub that's all new to me also. Again thanks for the heads up.

 

[detoneSmoker]

That's cool. I still have enough yeast that I had for that purpose anyway I think I may try it again. How much of every thing do you use in it and how many days does it last for you?

its not an exact science. throw some sugar and yeast in some warm water and ur set. i changed mine once a week to 2 times a week. you can smell when its time.

 

[Ghostwolf]

its not an exact science. throw some sugar and yeast in some warm water and ur set. i changed mine once a week to 2 times a week. you can smell when its time.

That's cool. It's what I do when mixing it up. And I just changed out the mix it stops bubbling.

 

[Ghostwolf]

would be interesting to see how or if the heatsinks work.

Too bad on the herm man. shit happens.... Makes your heart drop though when you do get one

So far so good with sinks last night the temp was 81F. And yeah the herm really had me bummed since it was my first F1 in a long time and the second F1 is male. I'm just waiting to see what the third F1 will be, But the bag seed is growin like crazy it's nearly 20" and still no sex either way to see yet. It's growing out like a female, but so did the first F1, the second F1 is thin and stretchy like a male and has male buds all over the top at least I can use the pollen from it. I don't want the herm pollinating anything. But anyway I have 10 more little younglings in my other case vegging just waiting to go if the bigger plants don't work out.

 

[Ghostwolf]

Greetings Folks. Tonight's report has the case temp reading at 86F. Needless to say I wasn't happy about that. So I removed the sun shade material from the two side panels, being the largest piece's leaving the smaller ones on the front, back, and top. Also opened the vent holes on the side panels when I removed it. I checked the temp just a few minutes ago and still 86F then checked the room temp finding out that was 84F. So it looks as the case runs about 2 to 3 degrees warmer than what ever the room temp is whether the sun shade stuff was in it or out of it. I'll continue to run it the way it is now for a few days to make sure the findings are correct. The plants are doing well. I'm not sure what to do with hermy. I may just grow it out and smoke it, but it is taking up needed space in the case that could be used for another plant that would be a female. The biggest plant the bag seed is looking good, growin good but still on sign the sex, just that it's very bushy like a female. The best young lings in the other case will soon need to moved to the new case. I sure that I'll have no more problem with the very high temps anyway.

 

[detoneSmoker]

put a side port on it

 

[Ghostwolf]

put a side port on it

I've been considering doing that. I just was trying to avoid doing it. The night stealth of the case has been sacerificed all ready for function which is of course is more important. But the case is always going to be a couple of degrees above whatever the room temp is anyway. I don't see how I could get it cooler inside than what the room is, and we have the warmest room in the house. Maybe a side fan like you've said and a intake fan also would help. That would make the intake a passive/forced air combo. The heat sinks helped a lot if I can get one or two more of thoses it may do the trick. But main thing is the super high temps are gone and the plants are OK just a couple of casualtys. No problem I have more troops in reserve ready to go. The real bummer is the time lost getting it right and it's so close now. Then I can try to do DWC and Co2. I've even thought that a hydro nutrient tank mite help keep it cool due to the shear volume of liquid in it. I'll post some plant photos later.

 

[johnnybsmokin]

Good to see the temps coming down Ghost, I imagin all you want to do now is grow some nice mj and not have to worry about any thing else hey.
You got an idea on the co2, did a search yesterday on this site and didn't find much at all about setting up.
Cheers

 

[Ghostwolf]

Good to see the temps coming down Ghost, I imagin all you want to do now is grow some nice mj and not have to worry about any thing else hey.
You got an idea on the co2, did a search yesterday on this site and didn't find much at all about setting up.
Cheers

Hey johnny, the temps are down over all. It just seems to want to go slightly higher than the zone I'd like it to be in (80F to 85F) but I'm happy about it anyway. No more Sahara Desert temps. I figured I would just grow the herm out a little more just to see if it will come out with some more female flowers, but what ever it does. It's coming out be for the real girls show them selves. I think I can sit back and just work on growing for a bit. About Co2, there are several ways to do a side from tanks of the stuff the bigger growers use. There are Co2 tabs you can get at the local fish and aquarium dealers stores, but I've never used them so I really don't know if they work good. You can take a 5 gal bucket and put a air hose in the lid and run it into the top of your cab and change your yeast water and sugar mix one a week, is a old grower method that works good. But that is still for bigger cabinet grows than ours. detoneSmoker uses a 20zo. soda bottle with a hose going into his case he says he changes his about once or twice a week. I'd like to go a bit larger and use a 2 liter soda bottle the same way, a hose in the bottle cap and into the top of the case. A mix of warm water a pack of active yeast and I think a 1/4 cup of sugar, but I could be off with the mix. It's something you can play around with to see what amounts work the best for you. But it should last about a week. I sure that some one else that knows a bit more than I will see this and jump in with some numbers on the correct mix. I know there has to be some threads about it on the site I take look and see if I can find something.

 

[Ghostwolf]

Good Evening all. Good news tonight temp was 80F. it would seem that my little friend like s to run from 80F to 86F. Not bad just one degree higher than I would like but I ain't complaining. That is about one or two degrees higher than room temp, what ever it is at the moment. I moved the herm to the smaller case and moved a couple young lings into the new case. I still have an F1 that is getting bigger but has a little bit to go before it shows what it's going to be. This is the last you'll see of the herm. Here's the new photo of the bag seed now over 20" normally it's in LST but I untied it so you can see it. Sorry the photos a bit small. I had to get the cam back from it to get it all in. So as it stands I have three little ones, one F1 male, and a this big one what ever it is to be inside a total of 5. And 9 including the herm in the small case, 14 between the two cases, but I'm going to concentrate on the new case since that's what this is about. I'll continue watching temps to be sure it's doing what it should I may still add something to help it out though, but other than that there's a little cosmetic stuff to do on it yet. I'll just be glad to get down to bringing in some bud. I'll keep you posted. Go in a Good Way my Friends.

 

[johnnybsmokin]

Hey again Ghost, Is it possible to get a bigger pic of the hermie??, Iv'e never seen one before. Actually come to think of it I don't think I have ever had a male either (touch wood)...lol, always healthy females and jees Iv'e stressed a few of them over the years as well.

The co2 production isn't the problem, as I brew my own beer and a "mash" for distillation of alchohol. The main thing is I want to use it during the flower stage but that requires the co2 to be "switched off" when the lights go off as the plants use oxygen then and co2 would only cause probs then.Co2 during the active period and transpire oxygen and when the plants "sleep" they require oxygen and transpire co2

I need to be able to regulate the timing of the naturally brewed co2 during the cycles which is the problem I am trying to find a solution to.

Your plants are coming along nicely m8, keep it up. Here's a pic of 1 seed that has popped, a Mandala safari mix, so it will be interesting to see what develops.


Cheers Ghost

 

[BC Chronic]

Hey Ghost!! Really nice to see temps are down..
I want to ask if the cpu cooling fan you have is being used? Does it have aluminum fins on it?
! more question, will you be able to find a 28-48 volt dc power supply? Usually those cords for cordless drill chargers are good but let me know..
things are on track for sending Christmas a little early
take care and let me know..
really happy for you now that things have cooled off but we'll get it lower if you want..

 

[Ghostwolf]

Hey again Ghost, Is it possible to get a bigger pic of the hermie??, Iv'e never seen one before. Actually come to think of it I don't think I have ever had a male either (touch wood)...lol, always healthy females and jees Iv'e stressed a few of them over the years as well.

The co2 production isn't the problem, as I brew my own beer and a "mash" for distillation of alchohol. The main thing is I want to use it during the flower stage but that requires the co2 to be "switched off" when the lights go off as the plants use oxygen then and co2 would only cause probs then.Co2 during the active period and transpire oxygen and when the plants "sleep" they require oxygen and transpire co2

I need to be able to regulate the timing of the naturally brewed co2 during the cycles which is the problem I am trying to find a solution to.

Your plants are coming along nicely m8, keep it up. Here's a pic of 1 seed that has popped, a Mandala safari mix, so it will be interesting to see what develops.


Cheers Ghost

Greetings johnny I'll try to get some more pics of the herm for you and try to photo edit them larger. so far the female flowers are just at the top and there's not a lot at this time but it's obvious what they are. This is actually my first herm, and it looks just like a male but with female pistils coming out among the male buds at the top. In all the years I've grown inside and out I never had one. Just males and females. I'd like to see if it will frost up much where they are or not. That's pretty cool that you brew your own. I knew a guy that did his own brewing in Miami year's ago. Used to make mead some call it honey beer. Real popular at renaissance fairs. I was googling and think I may have found what you need at Home Depot if you have one where you are, you still can find this stuff at the hardware store too. You should be able to use a electric sprinkler control valve and irrigation timer for under $20 each. to close and open your Co2 generator at the same time as the lights. I not exactly sure what others use but I would think it's something like that. Your young ling sounds intersting I've of Mandala's It should turn out good, keep me posted. Go in a good way.

 

[Ghostwolf]

Hey Ghost!! Really nice to see temps are down..
I want to ask if the cpu cooling fan you have is being used? Does it have aluminum fins on it?
! more question, will you be able to find a 28-48 volt dc power supply? Usually those cords for cordless drill chargers are good but let me know..
things are on track for sending Christmas a little early
take care and let me know..
really happy for you now that things have cooled off but we'll get it lower if you want..

Greeting BC, I see you have a new avatar, I liked Doofenshmirtz, I watch "Phineas and Ferb" with my granddaughters when I baby sit. But this one is funny too. Tonight's temp is again 80F and I'm SFH about that, but if I could lower the range a few more degrees that would be great but I'm not sure it's possible where I'm at. I wanted to ask you how many times do you or have topped the plant I saw in your case and how much do expect to harvest from it? The two CPU fans I have don't move much air and are all plastic 60mm and don't have fins, they're just small fans and they are about 10 to 15 years old, took them out of some old gas pump computers I was given for parts. The heat sinks I used I got from those computers and also scavenged some fans from some blown pc power supplies but I've gone thru them already. Do think if I reattach them to he heat sinks it would help the temps even more? My first pc grow case was one of those old computer cases. The one I using now was the first computer I had built for me 10 years ago. I since have learned to build my own. I think a 1-amp ac to dc power adapter would work for what it is that your talking about there. I'm starting on a drawing for ya today, do you like wolves, or do you have some other interest like growing that you would like. Go in a good way.

 

[ScrubNinja]

I need to be able to regulate the timing of the naturally brewed co2 during the cycles which is the problem I am trying to find a solution to.

How about: run a tube from your brewer into a large as possible storage container with a small hole in the top. The co2 gets pumped in, falls to the floor, and eventually reaches the top, pushing out the lighter oxygen in the process.

Then inside your storage container, you have a small air pump hooked up to the lights' timer with the output tube flowing onto your plants' canopy. Just check the rate the air pump moves against your lights on hours and make sure your storage container will hold enough.

I've not done it but I think it would work. I noticed an improvement with diy co2 but it was too much hassle mixing up the yeast stuff and taking the bottle out at lights off. If you've got a brew happening though, it makes sense.

 

[johnnybsmokin]

Hey guys thanks for the advice. Was thinking about the sprinkler control valve and irrigation timer Ghost but hadn't thought about Scrubs idea yet. Both certainly have merrit, may be combine both ideas for storage and delivery, arrr the possibilities. Time to put the thinking cap on.
As Ghost said, new avitar hey BC, a nice little siamese fighting fish. Where did you find that?
Just going to hope I don't come up with hermie Ghost as it would be a waste of space in such a small growing area little lone the time and effort we put into looking fter it. Do you think yours developed due to stress?? or just bad luck.

Cheers all, and keep on growing

 

[Ghostwolf]

OK johnny here are some more Hermy photos I'm sorry I couldn't get them any larger. these are a little bigger than a thumbnail pic. But when I photo edit them they get pixelated and fuzzy, and at that does no good. I've been checking camera prices and I just can't swing one at this time, but who knows maybe I'll run into one somewhere. Looking at the nodes you should be able to see the clumps of male buds, then at the top you should see the female bud hairs in with the male buds. I've grown lots of female and male plants but this was the first Hermy.