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FUCKING EH Butte LOL just about spite out my coffee when I saw that one lol lol laughed so hard lol oh yeah that is how you do it lol.. fuck the shovels lol peace out Headband707
I met a guy today who told me about his 6 foot DEEP holes and I about lost my coffee via my nose. There is no good reason to go deep unless you tend your plants but once a month. While we tend the top 18 inches to perfection -as we should- everything deeper gets culled by root rot. A tap root doesn't exist via clone and even if it did it would matter not. I've been spending a fair amount of time blowing out and widening my camp to run 8 feet wide and 12-18 inches deep. This is mo betta imo.
I am also getting next to the straw this year, and using jute netting around the edges of the containers (this goes for those airpots etc too) not to conserve water, I have plenty, but to bring the roots up and out without getting culled from the heat. -T
Those circles should do at least some 4-6lber's !
Or in your case maybe more ?? lol....
Side/lateral roots are the feeder roots in anycase , though suppose a MJ plant could send down a tap of about 9ft under ideal conditions but why worry bout it . Would think the heat issue might be a prob but u've got some solutions already in mind for that with 18" ideal depth . By the time the real summer heat kicks in the canopy of a good sized plant will provide the shade by then . Like to hear of how u approach irrigating &/or feeding those wide births , the frequency & set-up etc , Tom.
* Have always been a fan of diggin trenches with a backhoe & just going with the depth & width of the shovel head ....with a trench the idea of "infinite lateral root growth" appeals to me , with spacing @ 10-12ft minimum . But need level accessable ground for diigin 'em of course ...& just ammend the trenches for new spring plantings .
** Nspecta did some Westcoast dog a mutual friend was saying last yr ...and forget what all he had put in but they were pretty nice looking monsters !! Think these were all double-digi multipounders , can imagine the genetics are all so tried & true as the boyz have cross their paths & share thru the yrs ...this was one hell of a grow & know u do the same
Wished i saw more well-done OD around & lovingly tended GH meds , lots of amateur attempts & all the "cartel cr@p" out there , with the good stuff going & gone early on <G
LOL! That solution came wisking by my mind a few times too , hehe.... Lets start a composting soil company ...get one of those huge screened barrel sifters that are bout 40' long & a couple of big loaders
* These guys up in Oregon "Vital Earth" do a pretty fab job with their composted soils ,
fully composted & rich as they come .
( even the worms are organic vegans i've heard !! heehee)
http://www.vitallandscaping.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=00108
best of the early season to ya , stay fit !
MRose
Hey Fish ,
June , last yrs full moon wasn't till the 21rst if i remember right , we ran four 600wt HPS's out over 'em , into the middle of June ....well some might think of that being overkill but there were sure alot of complaints of early autoflowering heard many times from those that got lulled by a sunny May into an overcast June .
Some even had to replant had heard ...
But sure some lights might be the ticket for sure ....
best regards ,
Mrose
HorseMouth
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Madrus Rose, I am shocked! What a pic! Gives me something to shoot for, and aspire to.
My trimmer wrist just cramps up thinking about that finalharvest.
My trimmer wrist just cramps up thinking about that finalharvest.
that last garden could use better spacing. not that it isn't a sick garden. just looks like a couple more feet around the perimeter of each plant would do a lot for yield from the sides of the plant.
edit: looked at that pic again... i think the bad spacing is just an optical illusion.
edit: looked at that pic again... i think the bad spacing is just an optical illusion.
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coxswain
Hehehe. This thread is unreal. Big respect to everyone!
I agree this thread is unreal lol lol I'm soo jealous lol me want big bud .. makes mine look so small now lol lol.. but yeah looks sik Madrus Rose!!!!! peace out Headband707
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theJointedOne
ok see ive seen sea of green...ill be working on getting the wave of greengoing....thats more like the tsunami of green!
sound the horn!
nomaad, maybe they are doing a square footage thing? ive seen some pretty tightly packed humboldt garden that were tyring to fit the sq ft. limits
sound the horn!
nomaad, maybe they are doing a square footage thing? ive seen some pretty tightly packed humboldt garden that were tyring to fit the sq ft. limits
cityoftrees: $70-80 cubic yard of basic vermicompost from wormfarm -or- approximately 200 gallons
$15 1.5 cubic feet of black gold -or- approximately 12 gallons
200 gallons (1 cu ft.) / 12 gallons = 16.66 bags x $15 = $250
cubic yard of vermicompost = $70-80
cubic yard of bagged black gold = $250ish+tax
basically, vermicompost in bulk from earthworm farm is far cheaper than pre bagged mediums from garden stores, and has the advantages of being a compost medium.
ps-i'm a college student as well, its rough, hang in there. ha i owe a lot of money
$15 1.5 cubic feet of black gold -or- approximately 12 gallons
200 gallons (1 cu ft.) / 12 gallons = 16.66 bags x $15 = $250
cubic yard of vermicompost = $70-80
cubic yard of bagged black gold = $250ish+tax
basically, vermicompost in bulk from earthworm farm is far cheaper than pre bagged mediums from garden stores, and has the advantages of being a compost medium.
ps-i'm a college student as well, its rough, hang in there. ha i owe a lot of money
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theJointedOne
its in butte county, actually there are a couple but I think he is talking about the one in Durham, Durham worm farm. They sell work casting compost and soils ect. Also they give some great vermiculture classes.
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CityOfTrees530
well baet I'll be doing what we talked about and will have my pots filled in the next week or so. Will be going to the worm farm in Durham and appreciate all the help.
Also figured I will be using Age Old Organics for my liquids.
All the local growers we going to have a BBQ or what.
Also figured I will be using Age Old Organics for my liquids.
All the local growers we going to have a BBQ or what.
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theJointedOne
530 bbq. dam i wish i was up there. hahah
me and another patient are looking into doing a Growers Poker Tourney after harvest. Its 200 bucks and an ouce to enter. 100 dollars from each entry goes to cover costs, 100 goes to different charities and the meds go to the players that win.
long time from now but its fun to think about
me and another patient are looking into doing a Growers Poker Tourney after harvest. Its 200 bucks and an ouce to enter. 100 dollars from each entry goes to cover costs, 100 goes to different charities and the meds go to the players that win.
long time from now but its fun to think about
Before you go and spend money out in Durham, you may want to consider the “wonder of worms” out by the dump instead. The Durham guy has long windrows of compost (digested cow manure specifically) outside that he says worms are in. He then sells this as worm castings. The nice folks out by the dump, by contrast, feed their worms a wide variety of materials and harvest the castings from the bottom of commercial worm beds. In my mind, this is the only way to get true castings. What the guy in Durham is doing is dishonest, imho...
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theJointedOne
Hey butte thanks for the clear up, i always get the two confused and call the worm factory the duram worm farm b/c its right off 99 and i take durham road to get there, but yeah its the one near the dump that has the good worm castings.
heres thelink, actually a very nice site http://www.earthwormsoilfactory.com/home.htm
Have you talked to nancy yet Butte?
Absolutely. I will always run lights although I done think you need near as much as Madrus Rose suggests. I don't want to draw too much attention to my used car lot in the woods!
Remember also that his approach was to put 4 plants per raised bed. IE, each clump you see in the photo is four plants. Big respect for figuring out the four would yield better than one big one and look almost identical from the air. If I remember right, this was all West Coast Dog - a perfect pick for this approach. Very nicely done.
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In ~8 hours three guys mixed 16 yards of bagged soil, adding perlite, worm castings, and my own mix of dried amendments in preparation for filling the containers I put on top of the beds. We also filled this 12’x12’x2.5’ greenhouse bed with a little over 13 yards of assorted material that was laying around. This was almost equal parts each of well finished compost (18-24 months) for good biology, the remaining mixed soil I filled containers with last year, and leftover soil from the Big Six containers back in '08. I bought two yards of pure worm castings from the worm farm by the dump so I used this liberally in both the greenhouse and the new container soil.
The new soil is now tarped and sitting awaiting the filling of the containers. I always recommend mixing your soil as early as possible so if it turns out to be hot (a common problem when the spring buying rush hits), it has time to mellow out before roots are expected to hit it.
The cover crop is also starting to fill in nicely. I plan on allowing the clover to grow all summer and shade the containers and the soil. This will be instead of straw as in years past. I’ll also be installing a t-tape irrigation system for the beds themselves to try and even out the watering pattern.
In another week or so I’ll take the cuttings that will end up in the summer plot. Lots of great strains coming together and we’re really excited to see what new ladies we get to dance with!
Rainy day at the Rancho Relaxo, so we’re hitting the road and seeing what our brothers and sisters are up to in their spring prep...ants every one of them!
Happy gardening everyone – Butte
Btw – as I top and train I’ll keep people posted on my method, so if you’re not grasping the how’s and why’s of manipulating the plants, hang in there and it will all be clear by the time it matters.
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