Advance Nutrients is an amazing brand

[Guest 18340]

Do you think the 6 week veg had anything to do with that? Or the co2?

 

[fishinnutt]

I have definitely smelled hydro herb before that stank badly like a vitamin bottle.

 

[h&r]

Even when flushed properly I just dont like the way AN grown herb cures, blehhh.....

 

[dominicangreen]

use final fase and it will taste good

 

[HossCartwright]

Clearex is great at getting out chem taste too.

 

[Castelvetro]

Miraclegrow Tomato plant food...

im going to check the ph of the miracle grow i saw laying around were im staying, maybe try it on a plant, im basically a common sense guy, chems are chems, i was impressed with the taste of shorter flushed floranova bloom buds, better then i expected, pretty good. with straight chems u gotta run something to flavour them up.

 

[h&r]

use final fase and it will taste good

Long ago when testing, when AN first came out I did flush with final phase, also with clearex, also with straight RO water.

But AN bud always had a very strange cure to it that really turned me off, it was very odd and unnatural.

 

[Ganja D]

Hey dominicangreen,
Awesome, keep doin what your doin. Notice how thick the buds are on his lower branches and how they weigh down the entire plant. I've never seen other nutes bend branches as much as AN. Plus the AN makes your plants so healthy, strong and durable the branches wont snap no matter how much bud weight.
Yes.

 

[gonzo`]

You think Canna, of HOLLAND, don't test their products on weed? Have you been to the HOLLAND Canna website? Its full of pictures of weed, their product bottles even have weed leaves on them...

At the end of the day, growing has less to do with nutrients and more to do with growing skill and a stable environment. Get better at growing, with whatever nutrient brand you feel comfortable and you will get what you want...

 

[Guest 18340]

AN ph up is a great product.
It is more expensive than other brands BUT it is so concentrated that I only need 4 drops per gallon. The GH ph up took 1/4 tsp/gal. At that concentration I would need 5-6 bottles of GH to make up for one AN, and its only a few bucks more.
I can't speak for AN ph down 'cause I've never used it.

 

[jawnroot]

At the end of the day, growing has less to do with nutrients and more to do with growing skill and a stable environment. Get better at growing, with whatever nutrient brand you feel comfortable and you will get what you want...

+1 big time. Everyone gets so caught up with nutes, as if some special bud blaster bomb diggity whatever is going to take you from mild to wild. I'd bet most folks that say XX product gives you enormous, life changing results don't have the years of growing experience it would take someone to reach such a conclusion.

It's all about creating a good environment, both above and below the soil line. The basic building blocks in all nutrients, whether they be "chemical" or "organic," are the same. To use an analogy, a human being can survive and thrive off Ramen noodles and some veggies, just the same as they could living on five star restaurant fair every day.

What's most important isn't where you're getting the nutrition from, but that it's balanced, and you're living in an environment conducive to health. A fillet Mignon might have all kinds of accolades attached to it, and it sure would be expensive, but it's no better for you then a Lean Cuisine frozen dinner...probably worse.

AN nutrients are great at growing plants, they have all kinds of accolades attached to them, and they sure are expensive, but they aren't going to make or break you, I don't care what anyone says. If you want to spend an extra hundred or so bucks on nutrients so you sleep better at night, then go right ahead. But peace of mind is all those extra bucks are buying you, not 50% higher yields and better tasting buds.

 

[shuswap]

okay does anybody use there bud blood for the first week of flower or just the big bud after week 2?

 

[HossCartwright]

At the end of the day, growing has less to do with nutrients and more to do with growing skill and a stable environment. Get better at growing, with whatever nutrient brand you feel comfortable and you will get what you want...

I personally don't want to settle for good. I want to do the best job I can. I'm constantly pushing to get better. Environment, lights and nutrients are the 3 major factors that go into the garden. So nutrient choice is 33% of the equation. I'd say that warrants some experimentation. What you are talking about sounds like mediocrity.

 

[Castelvetro]

im coming to thinking its really just the art of watering, u need at above poster has just said good air, good light n good nutes. once u get theese down it comes to useing water perfectly-

 

[jawnroot]

I personally don't want to settle for good. I want to do the best job I can. I'm constantly pushing to get better. Environment, lights and nutrients are the 3 major factors that go into the garden. So nutrient choice is 33% of the equation. I'd say that warrants some experimentation. What you are talking about sounds like mediocrity.

The guy is spot on. At the beginning of this thread, you were more or less slamming AN for laying on the BS, but now you seem like their biggest advocate. I think they make some excellent nutes, but you can get the same results with MiracleGrow (which is itself excellent in its own way). That MG Tomato bud owns the AN buds I've seen posted in this thread. At the very least, the el cheapo MG Tomato is giving results as good or better, when compared to AN.

This is the point: Plant nutrients in their current form have been around for about seventy years. For all intents and purposes, not a whole lot has changed in that time. And yet, people buy nute company BS hook, line, and sinker. Even when given evidence that "lesser" nutes work just as well, people will knee-jerk with "oh, but the buds MUST taste horrible," and nonsense like that. Because in the back of their minds, they want to believe the magic snake oil they bought will dramatically transform their garden, when in fact it's effectively the same stuff as MG, with a pretty label on the container.

I've been using the GH Maxi line, which is similar to MG, but has a more canna-friendly profile. That's the only real difference. I'd love for someone to clearly and succinctly articulate how their AN nutes are better then my ten dollars a kilo dry GH.

 

[Ganja D]

+1 big time. Everyone gets so caught up with nutes, as if some special bud blaster bomb diggity whatever is going to take you from mild to wild. I'd bet most folks that say XX product gives you enormous, life changing results don't have the years of growing experience it would take someone to reach such a conclusion.

It's all about creating a good environment, both above and below the soil line. The basic building blocks in all nutrients, whether they be "chemical" or "organic," are the same. To use an analogy, a human being can survive and thrive off Ramen noodles and some veggies, just the same as they could living on five star restaurant fair every day.

What's most important isn't where you're getting the nutrition from, but that it's balanced, and you're living in an environment conducive to health. A fillet Mignon might have all kinds of accolades attached to it, and it sure would be expensive, but it's no better for you then a Lean Cuisine frozen dinner...probably worse.

AN nutrients are great at growing plants, they have all kinds of accolades attached to them, and they sure are expensive, but they aren't going to make or break you, I don't care what anyone says. If you want to spend an extra hundred or so bucks on nutrients so you sleep better at night, then go right ahead. But peace of mind is all those extra bucks are buying you, not 50% higher yields and better tasting buds.

I respect your opinion but here's mine. I'm not the best or most experienced grower and don't claim to be, but I consider my self pretty good and great for my area, with a decent amount of experience with several other brands. I used other brands to the point of getting them fairly dialed.
When I heard of AN I did some research and got excited. I asked my local hydro supply to get em for me. A year and a half later he did and now he can't keep it on the shelves. Angry customers call him weekly pissed he might not get more sensizyme for 2 weeks.

I started using it. At first I was really pissed I spent so much money and bugged out when voodoo juice didn't make my roots go crazy. Then I tweaked a few things and once dialed in I've opened a potential I never knew existed. I know there's still a lot of room for improvement, but I feel like I have an unfair advantage compared to many other growers. I only care so much because I love weed and want everyone to get the best results and quality and enjoy growing more.
My thoughts are if the best of the best growers with integrity for the best quality possible grew with AN for 3 or 4 cycles they would never use anything else.
Don't know why you'd choose lean cuisine over filet minon?(lol)
Again, just my opinion, you don't have to agree.

 

[dominicangreen]

Hey dominicangreen,
Awesome, keep doin what your doin. Notice how thick the buds are on his lower branches and how they weigh down the entire plant. I've never seen other nutes bend branches as much as AN. Plus the AN makes your plants so healthy, strong and durable the branches wont snap no matter how much bud weight.
Yes.

yeah dude whats crazy about the lower branches was they had no light hitting them because i had to many plants together.had i done less plants would of been better more yield.but next time i know what to do..

people say its giving bad taste and its been the smoothes smoke i've ever smoked.cant even feel it coming down super sweet and fruity when i used final phase
i do wish it was much cheaper to buy but you get what you pay for.

 

[jawnroot]

When I heard of AN I did some research and got excited.

So in other words, you walked into the experiment with a load of preconceptions, wanting it to work.

I started using it. At first I was really pissed I spent so much money and bugged out when voodoo juice didn't make my roots go crazy. Then I tweaked a few things and once dialed in I've opened a potential I never knew existed.

So in other words, AN didn't give you magic results. You had to improve your techniques. So how do you know it's not your improved skill that's to blame for your success? How is AN opening up all these formerly closed doors? Could it be that you wanted it to work, and that was sufficient for you to believe it did work, when in fact it may not have offered any improvement over other comparable supplements?

Don't know why you'd choose lean cuisine over filet minon?(lol)

You missed the point of the analogy. (lol)

 

[HossCartwright]

The guy is spot on. At the beginning of this thread, you were more or less slamming AN for laying on the BS, but now you seem like their biggest advocate. I think they make some excellent nutes, but you can get the same results with MiracleGrow (which is itself excellent in its own way). That MG Tomato bud owns the AN buds I've seen posted in this thread. At the very least, the el cheapo MG Tomato is giving results as good or better, when compared to AN.

This is the point: Plant nutrients in their current form have been around for about seventy years. For all intents and purposes, not a whole lot has changed in that time. And yet, people buy nute company BS hook, line, and sinker. Even when given evidence that "lesser" nutes work just as well, people will knee-jerk with "oh, but the buds MUST taste horrible," and nonsense like that. Because in the back of their minds, they want to believe the magic snake oil they bought will dramatically transform their garden, when in fact it's effectively the same stuff as MG, with a pretty label on the container.

I've been using the GH Maxi line, which is similar to MG, but has a more canna-friendly profile. That's the only real difference. I'd love for someone to clearly and succinctly articulate how their AN nutes are better then my ten dollars a kilo dry GH.

nah brother, I'm just saying that I'm open minded and willing to try what people who are getting tree trunk buds are doing. I hate AN's marketing campaign and for years have resisted curiosity due to sheer stubbornness. But now I'm over it. I think miracle grow is terrible stuff. Might get big buds but they taste like caca. I'm big on taste. Hoping AN taste is good after solid flush.

As for articulating how AN are better than GH powders? Well, do you have any pics like dominican? I don't...but I want to.

 

[Ganja D]

So in other words, you walked into the experiment with a load of preconceptions, wanting it to work.



So in other words, AN didn't give you magic results. You had to improve your techniques. So how do you know it's not your improved skill that's to blame for your success? How is AN opening up all these formerly closed doors? Could it be that you wanted it to work, and that was sufficient for you to believe it did work, when in fact it may not have offered any improvement over other comparable supplements?


It opened new doors because I've dialed other nute lines and had awesome results with them for years. I know weed plants in some ways more then I know myself, and AN dialed well compared to other very good brands also dialed over time in my experience is mind blowing.
You seem to be playing devil's advocate which is a cousin of pessimism and pessimism is the brother to negativity. I'm sure your skeptical of everything and are afraid to take risks.
I won't even respond to your comments about miracle grow. Real weed enthusiasts should no better for many reasons. Take no offense, just my opinion. What does everyone else think?