For those who smoke daily - feeling detached

[eexpee]

Well, my love affair with cannabis comes and goes. I am always smoking (as in, never more than 2 weeks without a smoke usually). Sometimes I will feel it has it's place in my life very strongly and I will smoke pretty much everyday. Generally not during the day however, but at night. other times I feel that she is affecting me negatively at the time, maybe due to life circumstances or whatnot, but smoking to often will just lead to anxiety.

Lately my love affair has been burning strong. I have been smoking every night before bed, or there abouts, thinking about it a lot, positive vibes towards it mostly. But, I had a smoke last night and started to think maybe the more I have been smoking, the more detached I am becoming from people and things around me. When sober however, I don't feel that at all.

I worry, sometimes to the point of panic when high that maybe my continual use of cannabis will eventually send me schitzophrenic, which is probably my greatest fear. I don't worry about it when sober, but sometimes can't help thinking it when baked, and obsess about it. Now, rationally I know I am a down to earth person, who is very social and have never really had any social issues except for maybe low confidence. So, logically I know these fears are just that, fears, but can't help thinking pot will drive me insane, slowly. But again, only when I am using it regularly. I guess that's her way of telling me using her to much is not right for me at the moment.

I'm just babbling now, but the purpose of this thread is just to hear people's thoughts, experiences, opinions of this. I think a lot of my fear comes from losing control and/or government progoganda having some sort of subconcious effect (though conciously I don't believe that shit for a second).

Anyway, I'd like to hear from you all. Does smoking regularly make you feel detached? Anything of the like?

Cheers,

 

[Charlie_Citrine]

We sound similar in some ways.

other times I feel that she is affecting me negatively at the time, maybe due to life circumstances or whatnot, but smoking to often will just lead to anxiety.

Just like any experience, and those heightened by drugs of one kind or another, it's all how you're going in to it. Sometimes it affects me the same way and I have to take breaks, or I just don't think to smoke for a while.

I worry too on it sometimes, and other times I'm blissed out and comfortable in its embrace. I think it's normal to have this view of smoking recreationally. Not always, but I think I understand where you're coming from.

Fear of schizophrenia is perhaps unwarranted. If you're a fragile mind and potentailly suffer from some disorders (panic/anxiety, depression, family history of severe mental illness), then it might affect you negatively. Perhaps not to the extent you'll "become" schizophrenic by smoking it; I think that might be a bit silly assuming you're not a kid and that "causal" relationship isn't proven. But it's not abnormal to be paranoid or think these thoughts from time to time while smoking. Pot won't drive you insane or even launch you on the road to it. If you're going to go insane, you will anyways. If you worry about it, psychologists are good to talk to about this in an open, honest, confidential way.

As for the social aspects of it, I hear ya there as well. I am a bit withdrawn from society too, sober or otherwise. Worse when I smoke more, obviously. But that just may be who you are: an introverted mind.

Again, fully understandable to feel all these things if your mind works this way. Surely you're not alone. But if you feel your mind's just going in the wrong direction, assess the whole picture and not just the cannabis part of your life. As in: Talk to someone about it deeply, whether it be a professional or a dependable person.

 

[funkervogt]

There exists a myth that cannabis is "completely harmless". While I agree the health effects are negligible, it can have an impact on your social life and mental well-being.

Some people like to take a break, which I did recently and did help, but what I've found more effective is asking yourself why you're toking each and every time you pick up the bowl. What are you getting out of it? Informed action > repetitive action.

 

[madback]

I've found I get real snappy when I don't smoke for a while...

 

[whiterabbit9]

Take a break and find out

 

[Mad Logistics]

I can relate to that.

Spoke to my GP, told him "off the record" pretty much what you said.
Bastard wrote that shit on the computer and I had been clinically labelled in the system as a heavy user of cannabis (one spliff a day is seen as heavy user) and how I show no signs of self harm etc...

He had to do that because of protocol.

I tried to get professional advice, and I did. This doctor was reassuring and he put my mind at ease..

The thing is, I busted my shoulder last week and went to see the doc again. GP doctors always rotate. I got this traditional Indian female doctor and she had my file up on the computer screen. When I say traditional, this is what I mean..

She automatically dropped the subject (my shoulder) and she started questioning me about my "drug abuse", she gave me a lecture about how it will definately drive me crazy and i will end up in the hospital with all the other 19-20 year olds...She was getting completely out of hand, and i put the bitch in her place. Regardless, i'm a stoner..i did prang out a little bit..

So yeah...its worth seeking professional advice because if you're uncomfortable right now like i was, i would of talked to someone about it or seek professional "confidential" advice. HOWEVER, you have to deal with it on the system. It should pass...we all trip out sometimes..

 

[Yes4Prop215]

i know dozens of people who smoke every single day, multiple times. it seems to be split down the middle. I have friends who smoke alot but are always out and about, doing somewhat crazy things like shoplifting, graffiti, selling, popping pills, etc. They are really social and are always with people and have no problem acting normal when around lots of people.

Then i have a few friends who are not socially outgoing. They smoke and just stick to their regular friends, their idea of a wild night is being at home playing cards with friends. They are the kind of guys who when you finally get them to leave the house to go to a resturant or some shit you can tell everyone is kinda trippin out and paranoid, awkward, etc.


Im in between. Alot of times when ive been smoking all day i do lose motivation to go out and do things. I prefer to stay at home and nurse my beer and blunts and just be with trusted people. However i have a side of me that loves to party and be around people so sometimes i just man the fuck up and get out of my house anyways.

 

[Stoner4Life]

I use it daily medicinally, I'm a bit resentful perhaps that I no longer consider it a 'special treat' for special occasions. I certainly enjoyed it more thoroughly when I used it less often, I think that might make sense to some of you in the same boat as I am.

motivation? weed doesn't effect mine at all, if a project is at hand I'm on it.......

 

[SuperConductor]

If getting high made me fear schizophrenia I wouldn't do it. If you don't fear it when you're not high maybe that's the best way for you to be, not high i mean.

 

[eexpee]

Well, I do fear it (schizophrenia) when not high, it's just that my thoughts can get out of hand easier when high, like, I lack the voice of reason more.

It's good to know some of you can relate, and i'm sure there are many out there who can. As for myself socially, I really enjoy being out with mates, partying, doing things, anything really. I find it hard socially a lot of the time while high, so I tend to just smoke while alone. It's more of a self-concious thing, and in that way I use it as a tool, because it bluntly brings out my insecurities and I am able to then reflect on them.

It's almost that I feel guilty that I am doing it to much sometimes, and I can get anxious over that, such as, if I have been smoking every night for a couple of weeks I will get to the stage where I try and not get tempted to have a smoke. If I give in I then give myself a guilt trip thinking, 'I am doing it so much, this is wrong, something bad is bound to happen'. I then make myself feel better by saying I am not going to smoke for a while. But, as soon as I am sober again, I think, why not, lets have a smoke.

Though, I intend to have a 4 month break when tafe goes back. See how things go without it.

For background information, I am prone to anxiety/depression, though these days it's not so bad. The weirdest thing is though, I got anxious recently on a Mandala #1 indica pheno. Funny, coz that's the reason I got it, to avoid anxiety. Though, I will give it good credit for bringing out my creative side. I did some very detailed sketches, something I haven't done in a while.

Anyway, thanks for your time reading this thread.

 

[sgtpepper]

probably best not to smoke at all for someone with anxiety and depression...
maybe make it a permanent break?

 

[ddrew]

Maybe your already schitzophrenic and one of the manifestations is an irrational fear of smoking weed?
You never know

 

[ureapwhatusow]

biggest issue with illegal meds is improper or relative applicaiton

pot can emulate so many different meds it amazing

i dont think anyone has successfully replaced as many pysch meds with pot as me

esp once that really deteriorate the health of your liver and kidneys


that said treatment needs to be addressed with specific strains and a strategy to cpl with smoking above nad beyond recreational

if you have a bad knee and you need a certain strain to relieve that pain and the side effect is is it makes you tired need to create a compatible strategy when using it

there are labels on every pill bottle

just because pot is so safe doesnt mean its not very effective

thankfully since there is a myriad of terp profiles it is IMHO that there is a perfect terp profile for most every human ailment its a matter of finding it

there are sativas such as tom hills pure haze that are all smile and energy, one of the most fucking incredible cerebreal only experiences

Heads casey jones has properties that really consistently relieve great amount of tension without the cumulative effect of energy loss i get from some kushes

there are so many strains being made available that have been brought to the market because people are discovering the specific medical purposes they present

i hope you find what you need

 

[baan]

Take a break

And switch up what you smoke every now and then.

Don't trick yourself into thinking things that are hogwash and heresay. You will drive youself mad thinking of insanity: you think you will become insane, and then every little thing that happens - like the heater or ac turning on - will become a sign of a mental illness to you. Stop thinking you will be insane before you create a bigger problem.

Feeling detached is a sign that you smoke too much weed imo. What happens to me is that I'm burnt out all the time, therefore feeling 'detached', even when I toke. Maybe we have different issues, but the one I just described was mine and I dealt with it by eating better, taking multivitamins, getting exercise and getting enough rest... And by taking a break, reducing the occurences of when I smoke when I begin again.

I'm just going to put this out there - I always eat a mescaline cactus before I take a break from toking. Those cactuses have given me more mental clarity and ability than anything else I have done in the past 10 years, and believe it or not all of the mental 'side-effects' of partaking in herbs (burnout, unwanted thoughts, paranoid) are washed away.

 

[teddybud]

find the right weed that doesn't make you feel that way.

 

[drunkenstoner]

reading ur post made me think of apocolypse now for some reason "I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream; that's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor... and surviving. "

 

[ShantiSadhu]

I worry, sometimes to the point of panic when high that maybe my continual use of cannabis will eventually send me schitzophrenic

You've been listening to the Ministry of Propaganda.

Cannabis has been used since before recorded history without a single reported case of Schizophrenia, Over-Dose or Death.

Cannabis is 100% Safe. Fact. You are in more danger using Aspirin.
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[ka0tik_kreati0n]

I smoke everyday, sometimes all day depending on if we have any... I actually feel weirder SOBER than I do high... I function better.. I think my brain works backwards compared to a lot of ppl, cause stimulants put me to sleep while weed energizes me... yes Im sure its cause I smoke a lot of sativa, but even indicas have a way of working opposite on me compared to others....
If you feel that uncomfortable, and obsessed with things.. I would recommend taking a break?

 

[Mala Tempora]

You smoking heavy indicas? They make my head a bit fuzzy, and can make me feel a bit strange. Almost all the street-bought weed around my area has this quality. The stuff I've grown however makes me feel nothing but great.

 

[mexilandrace]

it's your life not the weed, change your life.

A lot of times people blame it on the weed, stop smoking, and then things change. They say it was the weed. When in reality they just changed their life. Stopping smoking weed is a change, just like dumping your girl, calling your mom more often, and eating healthier.

it's all in your head, and bigger than one thing to point at.

I used to stop smoking, and then think things got better because I stopped, ignoring how much other stuff I changed in the process.