Serious Seeds Females

[hoosierdaddy]

IME, the only real objection folks have with femmed seeds is the taboo they carry about the issue. In reality, femminizing seeds is a fantastic tool to not only produce consumer demanded product, but it also lends a hand in producing great cultivars fast.

I want any of you folks who throw bad vibes at breeders of femmed lines (which is highly uncalled for IMO and the main reason I chime in on these threads) to give us one good reason it should not be done. If you are going to call sell-out, then IMO you should damn well be ready to back up why you think it is they are selling out.
Just assuming everyone agrees with you on your tabooish stances is naive. And I bet you big coin that just about each and every true professional breeder agrees with me on these points.

There is absolutely nothing that is a "sell out" or anything of that nature when a breeder offers femmed lines. Anyone can produce a crappy line wrought with hermie and mutation, and can do it with either regular or femminized breeding methods.
It is all in selection of the P's, nothing more, nothing less.

Again, you bad vibe throwers, please justify for us your black tone and bad vibes.
Perhaps these types of breeding methods deserve the crap that gets thrown at them, but I have yet to see any sort of good reasons why it is a bad thing. Nothing but taboo...and if we don't know the evils of the public carrying on false taboos, then we are surely blind.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Hoosier... we all tire of your rambling sooner or later... you always try to insist on people proving every last point to you, and then you just turn it into an argument.

I think they are using the term selling out as it applies to them catering to a segment of the market that they had previously stated as having little interest to them.

I agree that Simon and the Serious crew have created and kept some great strains of rare quality. I also fear that those days are numbered now.

 

[mriko]

IME, the only real objection folks have with femmed seeds is the taboo they carry about the issue. In reality, femminizing seeds is a fantastic tool to not only produce consumer demanded product, but it also lends a hand in producing great cultivars fast.

I want any of you folks who throw bad vibes at breeders of femmed lines (which is highly uncalled for IMO and the main reason I chime in on these threads) to give us one good reason it should not be done. If you are going to call sell-out, then IMO you should damn well be ready to back up why you think it is they are selling out.
Just assuming everyone agrees with you on your tabooish stances is naive. And I bet you big coin that just about each and every true professional breeder agrees with me on these points.

There is absolutely nothing that is a "sell out" or anything of that nature when a breeder offers femmed lines. Anyone can produce a crappy line wrought with hermie and mutation, and can do it with either regular or femminized breeding methods.
It is all in selection of the P's, nothing more, nothing less.

Again, you bad vibe throwers, please justify for us your black tone and bad vibes.
Perhaps these types of breeding methods deserve the crap that gets thrown at them, but I have yet to see any sort of good reasons why it is a bad thing. Nothing but taboo...and if we don't know the evils of the public carrying on false taboos, then we are surely blind.

Having a growing surface of only 0.36 square meter, fem seeds are of great use to me as it gives me the garantee of female plant. But I can't imagine doing without male either, so I usually throw in part female, part normal seeds.
Having read not long ago praises to Simon for not falling in the fem thing, this thread is surprising to me. Well, as long as one can choose between fem or regular seeds, then it's fine.
The disturbing thing is when lines are released exclusively as female seeds, thus forcing the non-cloning-grower to buy new seeds for every new session. This is Monsanto mentality and nothing else, and it's not a good thing for the plant.

Irie !

 

[Claude]

first step to becoming a sellout.
soon theyll only offer fem seeds like other breeders already do. i really dont like whats happening with the seed market.

Be assure that Simon will continu his regular seeds.
To many peoples in north america that do not go with feminized.

Respect
Claude

 

[Claude]

fem' them all... sic.
Bored to have only it from the 95-010 R&D... the Serious 6 will be only a feminized line, so no interrest for me. Tsss, market things.

Who said the Serious 6 will be only femenized??
It will start femenized but in the near future we will have regular as I just make arrangement with Simon.
Respect
Claude

 

[dkmonk]

Well if you were selling cheeseburgers and nobody was buying as much but everyone was selling veggie burgers, I bet you would start adding veggie burgers to the menu, not only to make more profit, but to draw ppl in so maybe they try your cheeseburgers.

Thats how I see it.

 

[Claude]

Well if you were selling cheeseburgers and nobody was buying as much but everyone was selling veggie burgers, I bet you would start adding veggie burgers to the menu, not only to make more profit, but to draw ppl in so maybe they try your cheeseburgers.

Thats how I see it.

I could not have said it better.

Thanks
Claude

 

[quest]

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[DankSide]

Its a good move for SS, I read somewhere that growers in Spain are finding better value in feminized seeds since most have no interest in breeding and are growing rows in their yard. They don't want any males in their gardens so they just go for fems. Since both regular and fem seeds will be sold from SS, I don't see a negative for anyone in the move.
Its adapt or wither in the business world - you do need to be smart about your company after all.
What was that about the issues with their strains lately? I was going to dig into some ak47 in a bit to see if I could find the cherry pheno.

 

[mrred]

lmao wtf

 

[funkervogt]

Well if you were selling cheeseburgers and nobody was buying as much but everyone was selling veggie burgers, I bet you would start adding veggie burgers to the menu, not only to make more profit, but to draw ppl in so maybe they try your cheeseburgers.

Thats how I see it.

Exactly. I'll go for fem seeds, usually a 5 pack, to see if there's any potential. If I really dig it, then I'd buy the regular 10+ pack.

I know, I'm not getting the full range of phenotypical potential by getting so few seeds, but that's all I have space for.

 

[MarquisBlack]

It'll be unfortunate if they stop offering regular seeds as others have.

But assuming the P1 stock is in tact, there should be no reason for that.

 

[lost in a sea]

for some people who are not great growers but need meds and someone who wants a slightly easier life.....feminized beans are good for them... i have no problems with the technique at all...

there will always be breeders like REZ, karma, ojd, mosca, BOG, SOL, legends.... who will never play the femmed bean, marketing game.....and serious is top gear, BUT the last time i checked, the breeders i named above are providing some of the most potent tasty pot out there....

having a company like serious making femmed beans is actually good, it will make it far less profitable for other companies to do the same, because the guys at serious will do that scene better than the jokers out there, making a killing, that are just ripping off breeders like shanti, for example, and making femmed beans from his gear..and alot of companies have done the same to serious seeds with every one of their strains!

so they have to provide what (a ill minority want & what an ill informed minority of) people want, to try and kill off these fake "breeders" that are appearing everywhere with femmed WR,BG or AK beans..

 

[Hammerhead]

I confirmed with Simon and yes they will carry both versions. I have to mention that Simon did say at at one point they would not carry Fem seeds. I have no problem with them making fem seeds as long as they offer there regular seeds as well. Just because a breeder states he wont make fem seeds does not mean he wont in the future. even a breeder with the best intentions has to make a living. If there customers are asking for fem seeds and there regular line is not performing as needed they will do what the customer wants.

 

[Dank99]

I am a Huge ak47 fan and respect serious seeds quality, but find this info to be very surprising. I can understand the business aspect where you would attract more customers. Imho one of the biggest issues people seem to have is if they were to stop offering reg seeds and just offered fems only.

merry christmas icmag

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

What the retailer wants or believes is irrelevant. Retail sales are consumer driven enterprises. Customers know what services/products they want. Successful businesses find out what that is and provide it. Unsuccessful ones disregard customer demand and follow their own personal business philosophy. Serious seeds has been in business for awile and are obviously smart enough to taylor their product to satisfy public demand. Well managed businesses like sensi, paradise and serious respond to demand, others will as well or they wont be retailers for long.

Id give anything if serious would do a good outdoor strain femmed. Neither of the 2 strains ive grown really performed well outdoors. I like their quality.

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

P. S

I wanted to add, that for a breeder to state " ill never make femmed seeds" seems poorly considered to me. There are 25 companies standing off in the wings ready to copy any breeders work and femminize it. Serious Seeds and Simon were given their marching orders when femmed White russian and AK47 showed up as big sellers for other companies. The same can be said of Sensi seeds and others.

Rez may not make them but you can buy his sour D femmed. He, by default, has agreed to allow some one else to reap the profits of his work

Im a capitalist. Simon did the work, simon should benefit. To refuse to femm would only allow everyone else to profit from his inspiring efforts.

 

[Beeka]

Did SS make those white Haze seeds sold in 15 packs???

 

[THC123]

i love femmed seeds , but i think it is real wrong to only offer femed seeds.

some people also want males

@ hoosier ; you say you are half a century old , why don't u start acting like it and not like someone that is 6 years.

Oh yeah marry xmas everyone

 

[Ganoderma]

I wish serious seeds had a vendors forum so we could have a central location to have info about/on Serious Seeds in one spot.

Oh, and some of you need to settle down, put down the keyboard and pick up one of these or two