Anyone else finding it impossible to find a decent job?

[Yes4Prop215]

Very true, it does take a while. I know i've been working on this for multiple years, and I'm not even a quarter of the way to where I want to be. But in this time I've learned alot, and come up with a lot of good and bad ideas. By the time I have enough capital to actually do what I want to do, I figure I will have it narrowed down and I won't start some half-assed pizza shop.............which actually might do well around here


And not all business ventures take time and 5 digits, shit..........think about the Snuggie. Now they have doggie snuggies, snuggies in every print you can think of, and knock-off snuggies. Whoever thought of that is filthy rich. One of my friends started a pool business with 2 helpers, an old backhoe and rented equipment, his startup cost was $ 6,000. Now he lives in a house that would cast a shadow on the White House

i hear that, capitolism is great however its the rich who get richer. in order for most of us regular folks to get up there we may have to take a few shortcuts (aka growing)

i dont want to become some big time grower or dealer moving hundreds of pounds, thats way too much. but i am down to do it reasonably and stack up my 100 grand so i can start a few legit businesses that i have wanted. im also thinking about pizza shops ahah, by the slice shops make alot of cash around here especially if you are close to young people and drunks. start up costs are very reasonable, maybe about 30k im thinking? we want to combine it with a brewery/munchie spot too, open till 2am haha.

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

I've been busy making sure I don't loose the job I've got!

 

[hazy]

Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the same coin. Free Enterprise(which i think is what people nostalgically associate capitalism with) has been long lost{except with ganja growers}.

Partisan politics are getting old. I could say that I had a job while Bush was president and lost it when Obama came in and the economy tanked.

^^maybe 130grand

 

[spyvsspy]

im also thinking about pizza shops ahah, by the slice shops make alot of cash around here especially if you are close to young people and drunks. start up costs are very reasonable, maybe about 30k im thinking? we want to combine it with a brewery/munchie spot too, open till 2am haha.

Haha, I like your style Yes4Prop215, great minds think alike............looking for a business partner? I'm also a homebrewer to boot! Are we brothers from another mother?

 

[zenoonez]

Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the same coin. Free Enterprise(which i think is what people nostalgically associate capitalism with) has been long lost{except with ganja growers}.

Partisan politics are getting old. I could say that I had a job while Bush was president and lost it when Obama came in and the economy tanked.

Third party! Get rid of the IRS, reform tax law, start a systematic reappraisal of rights and freedoms in this country, and no bailouts. Take the taxes collected and put them toward programs that work or don't spend it at all.

 

[ItsAllOver]

It's all good man,
Coal will become more and more expensive to extract. It already has, and is set to go higher when production costs increase due to the governments proposed climate policies and increased costs associated with opening new facilities (steel prices, etc). And when the costs such as destruction of communities from mining practices is factored in, I'd say it's already "more expensive" than micro-hydro or wind (again, note the qualification that the area must be suitable for the alternative energy source for this to be true.)

Anyway, at the end of the day, you have to recognize that coal is not being "created" at the same speed at which it is being mined, and this ultimately leads to an incrementally climbing price due to increasing costs of extraction, which will lead to people's inability to afford it and the development of alternatives that will solidify the eventual collapse of the coal mining industry and the end of coal consumption.
History shows this. Wood -> Coal -> Oil -> ?

When will this happen? I don't know. It is reasonable to assume that we have 200 years left of coal underground. Does this mean that it is going to remain cheap enough to mine that quantity for those 200 years, or will the cost of extraction and production become too high? More importantly to some people, is it responsible to continue leveling mountaintops, pushing the waste into the valleys below? Is it responsible to keep burning coal that is doing what could possibly create an environment that is not safe to live in? Even without the moral issues, I think that the costs associated with the various forms of energy will eventually make the decision for us all. (unless the gov't gets their hands into it and continues with the oil subsidies, royaly relief, and tax breaks, etc. Did you know that the oil companies get tax breaks because they deal in a commodity that is limited in quantity. It's like saying, "we know you'll be going out of business one day due to the very nature of your industry, so we'll help you squeeze as much money out if it that you can in the time available)

Even the most skeptical economic analysis of most renewable forms of electricity generation, in geographic regions where it makes less sense than others, hold the various methods as about 4-10 cents above costs of the conventional sources in the area. That is not a very large increase before alternative energy will make sense in those areas as well. We'll still have lots of coal in the ground by the time we have renewable energy, but we won't care. It just makes sense to use the fossil energy we have underground to get ourselves on the right track.

As far as nuclear, I am a proponent of going nuclear if and only if we find ourselves in a situation in which we have "gone too far" and need time/electricity to blast forward into a renewable energy paradigm. This might be that time. The thing is, nuclear plants take a looooong time to get operational.
It's a tough question, but I am of the vein that creating even small amounts of nuclear waste poses a big problem to humanity, unless we are under the assumption that we will be one day leaving this planet (which I think is likely if we can make it that long...)

Also, my real claim is not necessarily to alternative energy in its current state. I also believe that regulatory influence is causing us to be more slow-going as far as more novel forms of electricity production, such as cold fusion.

But to directly answer your question of "can you explain how wind power could ever be cheaper than nuclear or coal?" I could give you an investment analysis of a wind power production site (plus government incentives) side by side with the costs associated with operating from the grid, with today's cost numbers, which I have conducted myself. I can't show you mine, though, sadly, due to the nature of this forum.

Wind power in particular is site specific. Appalachian mountain range, off-shore (poses its own problems), some areas in Texas. It competes only where it applies. Same with really any of the alternative energy sources.

RE works now in some circumstances (correct environmental conditions), but in time it will become obvious...

 

[Yes4Prop215]

Haha, I like your style Yes4Prop215, great minds think alike............looking for a business partner? I'm also a homebrewer to boot! Are we brothers from another mother?

where you at? we already got 3 of us who have been talking about it, one of them brews his own beer he makes crazy stuff like chocolate flavored beer haha its pretty good. maybe we can make it a franchise. I wanna serve munchie food as well like paninis and chocolate chip waffles, but the main thing would be pizzas that we would sell by slice or pie, but most of our business would cater to people just trying to drop by real quick and grab a slice and drink for like 5 bucks. (drunks, stoners, high school kids) the pizza business is very chill, we used to hot box in there all the time, and its alot of cash so if you need to *cough* launder *cough* some profits from growing its almost perfect.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

There are reason Canada's unemployment is double the US, and it is even high when the US is doing well. It is about the socialist nature of the country that drives jobs out and doesn't encourage people or businesses to try. I can list the reasons, but the bottom line amounts to socialism. And guess what, that is the direction this current US administration is heading.

its almost good that the democrats are in power right now and embarassing themselves so terribly. nancy pelosi and all those socialist nutjobs are doing a good job at waking up most of america and hopefully they get voted out in 2012. the only problem is that republicans are just so damn unappealing with thier stupid emphasis on warmongering and religious topics that alienate most voters.

 

[SpasticGramps]

Nanotechnology will change EVERYTHING.

 

[sparkjumper]

I feel personally embarrassed whenever Nancy Pelosi opens that hole in her face ugh..what a critter

 

[spyvsspy]

where you at? we already got 3 of us who have been talking about it, one of them brews his own beer he makes crazy stuff like chocolate flavored beer haha its pretty good. maybe we can make it a franchise. I wanna serve munchie food as well like paninis and chocolate chip waffles, but the main thing would be pizzas that we would sell by slice or pie, but most of our business would cater to people just trying to drop by real quick and grab a slice and drink for like 5 bucks. (drunks, stoners, high school kids) the pizza business is very chill, we used to hot box in there all the time, and its alot of cash so if you need to *cough* launder *cough* some profits from growing its almost perfect.

Lets just say I live in a somewhat liberal, large Southern college town.........with 70,000 young, drunk college kids running around at all hours of the night looking for pizza, beer and munchies. I love working on crazy beers, my project right now is "Tejas Prickly Pear Porter." Made with fresh picked (by me) prickly pears. I was also a chef for 6 years, and managed a restaurant for 3......... I like where this is going.............

 

[zenoonez]

I feel personally embarrassed whenever Nancy Pelosi opens that hole in her face ugh..what a critter

I admit I am a liberal as far as politics but even I can't stand Nancy Pelosi.

 

[funkervogt]

"It's their fault I can't find work! It's their fault!"

 

[Mrs.Babba]

I found a job after being unemployed for over a year, but Im only working one day a week. Its tough out there thats for sure!

 

[TickleMyBalls]

nancy pelosi is an airhead. her only redeeming quality is she's also a dead head. I prefer her to Newt Gingrich or Tom DeLay though.

 

[Richard Gozinya]

Hey Brother thank you for the detailed answer, looks like you have done your homework. Wind turbines were my primary market at GE and it is sad that most folks feel like they will save us but the cost is very high and when the wind doesn't blow you need to cover the megawatts that are lost. So no matter how you do it you need base load that is reliable. Maybe we could just consume less? But that doesn't create jobs does it?

But you will rarely see someone spout the truth and thats use what we have better. Drive through LA any night whole buildings with lights on every floor and no one even there.

 

[Coloradan]

Hey ItsAllOver I don't mind a good rant if it's on point as yours is. Coal needs to be eliminated IMO it's too polluting. Again this will require us to simply use less and consume less. However you say "I don't think that people will feel a real decrease in western-style standard of living" I have to completely disagree with that. I think people confuse energy and technology. Technology will have diminishing returns as our energy sources run out and global warming causes turmoil. Many people ( I'm not saying you) always conjure up a mythical "they" that will "invent something" to save our lifestyles. I'm skeptical but then again I'm bias since I hate Western style consumerism anyway.

 

[Norrath]

OP: for your advice, dont go to vancouver

ninjaedit: i want a job

 

[zenoonez]

nancy pelosi is an airhead. her only redeeming quality is she's also a dead head. I prefer her to Newt Gingrich or Tom DeLay though.

Exactly.

 

[Sam the Caveman]

The more I hear Pelosi, the more I start to think there must be a usb port or a keypad on her somewhere. Did ya'll see her trying to get the banker bailout passed, how can a human be so vested in passing such horrible legislation?