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Thanks for that SIR..
That is basically what I was planning on doing. I am thinking about trying FN, PBP is kinda expensive and I am not getting the results I want.. Plus I seem to be having a lot more ph lockout issues with PBP as compared to my old EJ.. Maybe I will give FN a try, or even just doing a heavily ammended soil mix.. We will see.. And thanks again for that schedule..
-N.Kron
That is basically what I was planning on doing. I am thinking about trying FN, PBP is kinda expensive and I am not getting the results I want.. Plus I seem to be having a lot more ph lockout issues with PBP as compared to my old EJ.. Maybe I will give FN a try, or even just doing a heavily ammended soil mix.. We will see.. And thanks again for that schedule..
-N.Kron
sir, thanks for the quick response. Trying to tell a friend that his plant is bleaching cause hes got his horti way too close. He thought it was nute def., but he is coming around now.
Karma- thanks for visiting bro. did you get your mag yet? i sent it out and should have arrived or will soon. well i hope you did!
NK- hope it helps you out somewhat. i say ammended and FNB hehe i swear if i didnt have to dispose of dirt would be the best for me cost wise IMO
Robot- no worries man and glad to help sway the homie! Keep it Green man!
Tona- thanks as always and yes i am quite pleased with the net. i snapped off a nice top or 2 on accident when installing alone but whatever shiot happens right! maybe in future i can get help building things
well friends here is the other decap nugs. this batch was H&G coco a+b base nutes
well til later grow bros i gotta rest been havin quite a weekend full of sports events n parties
NK- hope it helps you out somewhat. i say ammended and FNB hehe i swear if i didnt have to dispose of dirt would be the best for me cost wise IMO
Robot- no worries man and glad to help sway the homie! Keep it Green man!
Tona- thanks as always and yes i am quite pleased with the net. i snapped off a nice top or 2 on accident when installing alone but whatever shiot happens right! maybe in future i can get help building things
well friends here is the other decap nugs. this batch was H&G coco a+b base nutes
well til later grow bros i gotta rest been havin quite a weekend full of sports events n parties
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idoreallytry
sweet brother that is a frosty nug fo sho,,,looks good, do u water everyday in ur coco?, its drip fed right?,,just wondering in 2 gallon pots straight coco if i could water everyday well just kind of curious i was handwastering everyother day and i just don't seem to be getting no extra yield or anything very lil plants with hardly any yield give me some pointers if u don't care i switched back to promix this round but i have a shit load of coco i want to try a straight coco run with a drippper instead of handwatering,,,peace brother
Great looking nugs bro.
Impressive as always. Those Decap nugs look sticky.
SirSmoka..wow..nice looking buds..great job on them. DD
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IDO- yup u could ramp up to 1200 safely imo throughout the weeks as long as you give a decent flush at the end of week IMO. i will never break 1300ppm in the initial mix.
and yup let stay in the 2 gallon and i would give 2-3 weeks in it IMO and it will still have space to root in flower. after 10 days your roots are just beginning to hit bottom and fan out. another week or 10 days lets it establish container, not just hit bottom. i htink 2 gal is perfect for coco. i am using 3 gal, and i still didnt let them establish enough in final containers, but thankfully they were raping the space outta the 1 gal they vegged in for 50 days so roots were over plentiful. think about that. my current plants had 50 days veg under a 8bulb t5. if i would have let them have 30 then 20 in final container i assure you my plants would be 2x the size and packin it on. my final conclusion is roots roots roots
Whadeezlrg- hey there. using 1ks over a 4x8 plywood table with pondliner. hoods like urs are better footprint for 4x8 than my tubes are IMO. when its time for you to replace your bulbs, spend the extra dough and get the horti bulbs- you wont regret it, i didnt. my horti side always does better noding and tighter denser buds. adds up in the weight dept. concerning yeild, i always break #per light, but aim for 2#per. the table provides about 3 lbs of solid bud every 56-60 days. goal is 4 lb per table in future. got a lil more tuning to do, and co2 would put me right there
and yup let stay in the 2 gallon and i would give 2-3 weeks in it IMO and it will still have space to root in flower. after 10 days your roots are just beginning to hit bottom and fan out. another week or 10 days lets it establish container, not just hit bottom. i htink 2 gal is perfect for coco. i am using 3 gal, and i still didnt let them establish enough in final containers, but thankfully they were raping the space outta the 1 gal they vegged in for 50 days so roots were over plentiful. think about that. my current plants had 50 days veg under a 8bulb t5. if i would have let them have 30 then 20 in final container i assure you my plants would be 2x the size and packin it on. my final conclusion is roots roots roots
Whadeezlrg- hey there. using 1ks over a 4x8 plywood table with pondliner. hoods like urs are better footprint for 4x8 than my tubes are IMO. when its time for you to replace your bulbs, spend the extra dough and get the horti bulbs- you wont regret it, i didnt. my horti side always does better noding and tighter denser buds. adds up in the weight dept. concerning yeild, i always break #per light, but aim for 2#per. the table provides about 3 lbs of solid bud every 56-60 days. goal is 4 lb per table in future. got a lil more tuning to do, and co2 would put me right there
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idoreallytry
u know it makes sense thanks brother,,you know i guess a 3 week veg isnt that much plus it will give me a few days to train the girls,,,peace brother
those were like day 19 or 20. snappped a few for INB and postin emup
Ido- yes i water 2x a day there is runoff, but very lil. the way my system works is i have been mixing up 15 gal for nutes n it is about 1200-1250ppm on day one of the week. each day it is diluted by the top off res. day 2 is down to 800ppm(after 4 pumps) and it continues to reduce ppm and flush out for the week for me. at end of 7th night i mix new weeks stuff up. start over. i had 2x the weight per plant in soil, but i let establish final container. i am a firm believer in coco, you must allow to establish final container. it is better to not pot up if u are not gonna let grab ahold of container. otherwise buds seem airier and limbs stretch prob 15% more or higher. i said to hazy i got more from my 5x5 container than my 3 gal containers n that is why i think. all about roots IMO. do you have meters. ppms do play a part in yeild, and can improve results by timing ppms to plant needs. INB realized how weak he was feeding last run after some meters were purchased and now he is improving results already being sure to be dialed. i hope any of that helps. n nearly all IMO
BR- thanks brother!
RR-yes sir thank you we need to hook up so i can share some sticky goodness with ya! congrats on the run at your spot as well. i see it is done or near end... lots of buds ther brother
DD-thanks DD it is nice to see your presence in the casa. always trying to keep up with the OGs on here @ IC brother! the bar is high lol thanks again for checkin in and hope to see ya round more!
peat-right back at ya bro! thanks for the support holla!
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Damn your still ROCKIN n ROLLIN with the BIG BOYS !! GOOD WORK BRO!! Just Got My White Widow Going, Will Post up A Log Hope to Have you In my Corner Shooting Advice my way!! 
till then GROW SAFE BE SAFE!! 7o2 pigs are dirty dirty !!
till then GROW SAFE BE SAFE!! 7o2 pigs are dirty dirty !!
Beautiful decap buds Sir. They look oh so smokable.
I really appreciate all the nuts and bolts info your giving out. A lot of us really need that kind of detail and everyday stuff. My biggest concern about trying a drip system has been the issue of runoff. Or recirculating. I got more weight out of a C99 that had almost no runoff through the whole cycle, than anything else. I could do a drip if I had no runoff.
That pot size thing your talking about is dead on. My plants had about two+ weeks in their 3 gal pots and had pretty well filled the pot with very fine roots. Still a little sparse at the very bottom of the pot. The GAK I chopped that had roots only half way down in the pot, vegged the same, but was smaller and recovering from problems. I think that it should have went into a smaller pot for sure.
Anyway, rambling now, so I'll check you later.
I really appreciate all the nuts and bolts info your giving out. A lot of us really need that kind of detail and everyday stuff. My biggest concern about trying a drip system has been the issue of runoff. Or recirculating. I got more weight out of a C99 that had almost no runoff through the whole cycle, than anything else. I could do a drip if I had no runoff.
That pot size thing your talking about is dead on. My plants had about two+ weeks in their 3 gal pots and had pretty well filled the pot with very fine roots. Still a little sparse at the very bottom of the pot. The GAK I chopped that had roots only half way down in the pot, vegged the same, but was smaller and recovering from problems. I think that it should have went into a smaller pot for sure.
Anyway, rambling now, so I'll check you later.
Hell yea dude, the screen is starting to fill up nicely and should be pretty damn full this run. Decap nuggies are looking really nice.
I figured I would join the discussion. I have found a direct correlation between the size and health of the rootball and the amount of buds produced, i.e.- The bigger and healthier your root system the more you will yield. This is why hydro is seen (at least imo) as higher yielding because their root systems are able to grow rapidly and have direct access to large quantities of nutients/o2.. But because systems like this are usually medium less they have no buffer for pH so a one time fuck up can and will kill entire plants/crops..
This is why a medium like coco is so nice, because it has enough substance to buffer pH a little bit, and it drains fast enough to be fed like hydroponics. IMO..
I am also on the drip system bandwagon. I am waiting until I move in the end of April because I am planning on upgrading to a 4x8 table under 2k when I setup at the new place. I think I am just going to try and find a good ratio of Promix/perlite/vermlite 30/30/30 maybe or idk I will have to try them out.. Purpose being I want a mix that I can feed on a regular basis twice a day in my 1.6 gallon pots. I think that would be the ideal setup for me. Anyway sorry or ranting.. Morning pipe hahaha. Peace.
-N.Kron
I figured I would join the discussion. I have found a direct correlation between the size and health of the rootball and the amount of buds produced, i.e.- The bigger and healthier your root system the more you will yield. This is why hydro is seen (at least imo) as higher yielding because their root systems are able to grow rapidly and have direct access to large quantities of nutients/o2.. But because systems like this are usually medium less they have no buffer for pH so a one time fuck up can and will kill entire plants/crops..
This is why a medium like coco is so nice, because it has enough substance to buffer pH a little bit, and it drains fast enough to be fed like hydroponics. IMO..
I am also on the drip system bandwagon. I am waiting until I move in the end of April because I am planning on upgrading to a 4x8 table under 2k when I setup at the new place. I think I am just going to try and find a good ratio of Promix/perlite/vermlite 30/30/30 maybe or idk I will have to try them out.. Purpose being I want a mix that I can feed on a regular basis twice a day in my 1.6 gallon pots. I think that would be the ideal setup for me. Anyway sorry or ranting.. Morning pipe hahaha. Peace.
-N.Kron
whoops double pst.. my bad..
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idoreallytry
i had 2x the weight per plant in soil, but i let establish final container. i am a firm believer in coco, you must allow to establish final container. it is better to not pot up if u are not gonna let grab ahold of container. otherwise buds seem airier and limbs stretch prob 15% more or higher. i said to hazy i got more from my 5x5 container than my 3 gal containers n that is why i think. all about roots IMO. do you have meters. ppms do play a part in yeild, and can improve results by timing ppms to plant needs.
Yeah i have meters and all and i handwater no more than 800 i guess for coco i can amp that up a lil
and the part about pots and whatnot,,,so u are saying i maight as well veg in the 2 gallon pots long enough for a good rot system to take hold then just flower in the same pots in stead of transplanting into 3 gallon befoer i flower,,,i was going to run 10 2 galllon pots of coco drip to waste under a 1000 watts of clones so i might as well go from rooted clone into the 2 galoln pots veg for 10 days or so then go ahead and flower in same pots and water twice daily i will give it a try soon i am just not gettting the weighti think i could so i am on hte hunt for the ultimate setup for me,,,thx for the info brother,,,peace
i posted this yesterday but it saying i posted it today i wasn't even on here today at 11:51 thats wierd,,,if u see Sir answered this question about 7 posts up but its just now posting it HAHAHA,,,well who knows,,,peace
Yeah i have meters and all and i handwater no more than 800 i guess for coco i can amp that up a lil
and the part about pots and whatnot,,,so u are saying i maight as well veg in the 2 gallon pots long enough for a good rot system to take hold then just flower in the same pots in stead of transplanting into 3 gallon befoer i flower,,,i was going to run 10 2 galllon pots of coco drip to waste under a 1000 watts of clones so i might as well go from rooted clone into the 2 galoln pots veg for 10 days or so then go ahead and flower in same pots and water twice daily i will give it a try soon i am just not gettting the weighti think i could so i am on hte hunt for the ultimate setup for me,,,thx for the info brother,,,peace
i posted this yesterday but it saying i posted it today i wasn't even on here today at 11:51 thats wierd,,,if u see Sir answered this question about 7 posts up but its just now posting it HAHAHA,,,well who knows,,,peace
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watchin and learning, the drip upgrade is in my future. I mean who would have thought it would be a PITA to hand water under a net thats 24" off the ground. I really like how you got things goin ssa and the nugs speak for themselves, just a quick couple questions though are you running 6's or 1ks? and what size is your canopy, 4x8? what do you pull from it on average? just trying to get an idea of what I may be capable of doing in my system. anyways peace man and keep on converting people from dirt and dro to coco cuz it's the chit.
