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noone4u

I wouldn't go as far to say that the people voted so sick people could get high!

I think it is probably better to assume they voted so that weed could be free from persecution.

The sick is just the carrier

And to the sick if you think the rest of us sit around believing you never smoked pot before and just started using it cuz your sick you got another thing coming!

get off your high horses your just a pot head like the rest of us
 

ItsAllOver

Devil's Advocate
Maybe an idea would be to create a "Clone Availability Advertising" sub-forum that would allow dispensory owners pay a nominal fee for the ability to start threads regarding the availability of clones. Charge on a per thread basis (?), break it up into state by state sub-sub-forums. The vendors could use the thread as a storefront, maybe a monthly fee (reasonably lower than banner ad fees. Is there a way I can access the banner advertising price scheme around here?) to maintain the thread over time.

IMO, the argument that the volume of transactions (and profit from them) and geographic isolation that comes with clone selling should put it in a different category from the easy shipping and high profits from sales of seeds.

They are not really in the same type of business, are they?

I fully understand that ICMag depends on advertising (among other things) to stay afloat, and that's how any business works. Some people seem to be missing that point... I just think that IC is going to totally miss out on the ability to make any $ whatsoever on the clone side if they don't allow posting somehow.

No one is buying banner ads when their sales can't be done over the internet easily...

Hell, this discussion doesn't have any direct impact on me, but I figured I'd throw in my opinion nonetheless. I think it might be a good middle ground...

Peace, and good luck working this out...
 

JJScorpio

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Hey JJ who cares if people fake being sick to get there mmj card-seems petty and none of my business.


It isn't any of your business, but thank you for posting that. That's exactly the problem.

People fake to get a med card and then want Gypsy to foot the bill for their advertising because the same ones cry "I can't believe you are doing this to me".

So here's what we are going to do for all of you people. Doobie is going to start another Colorado clone thread for you shortly, and after that as long as you don't spam you're good to go. We tried cleaning up the hundred or so pages of spam in the other one, but 9/10ths of the original thread was spam and I'll be damned if I'm going to sit here all afternoon and end up with maybe ten pages of worthwhile posts.

I would suggest you Coloradians take a lesson from the Cali people and some of you police the thread and warn the spammers to stay the hell out. From what I hear from a few members the bulk of the people posting in that thread are either shop owners or suppliers so I imagine the membership is going to drop a little.

If you think you're going to just start it up again, think again. If you're an owner or supplier and you intend to spam, you'll be banned immediately....

What will get you banned....

1 spamming

2 arguing

3 arguing someone's ban

I think that's clear enough..... It's not your house and it's not your rules. If you can't handle that I wish you well elsewhere.....
 

kb5178

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It isn't any of your business, but thank you for posting that. That's exactly the problem.

People fake to get a med card and then want Gypsy to foot the bill for their advertising because the same ones cry "I can't believe you are doing this to me".

So here's what we are going to do for all of you people. Doobie is going to start another Colorado clone thread for you shortly, and after that as long as you don't spam you're good to go. We tried cleaning up the hundred or so pages of spam in the other one, but 9/10ths of the original thread was spam and I'll be damned if I'm going to sit here all afternoon and end up with maybe ten pages of worthwhile posts.

I would suggest you Coloradians take a lesson from the Cali people and some of you police the thread and warn the spammers to stay the hell out. From what I hear from a few members the bulk of the people posting in that thread are either shop owners or suppliers so I imagine the membership is going to drop a little.

If you think you're going to just start it up again, think again. If you're an owner or supplier and you intend to spam, you'll be banned immediately....

What will get you banned....

1 spamming

2 arguing

3 arguing someone's ban

I think that's clear enough..... It's not your house and it's not your rules. If you can't handle that I wish you well elsewhere.....


Word-and Thank you Gypsy for the opportunity-
 

subrob

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how bout this...each med state gets a clone thread or subforum. each thread or subforum has a mod. and each one has at least one member that sends in seeds for the server fund..we got enough in cali we will loan your state a "closethackpollenchucker" we got a few of them out here!--actually, thats kinda a good idea!
 

kb5178

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how bout this...each med state gets a clone thread or subforum. each thread or subforum has a mod. and each one has at least one member that sends in seeds for the server fund..we got enough in cali we will loan your state a "closethackpollenchucker" we got a few of them out here!--actually, thats kinda a good idea!

great idea man-I have projects coming-

respect on holding it down on the coast.

Please hollar if you have any Ideas for us out here in the new wild west
 

ItsAllOver

Devil's Advocate
Yep, I think the paid subforum thing will fix the problem and make ICmag even more of a freaking awesome site
 
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Neville H.

Yep, I think the subforum thing will fix the problem and make ICmag even more of a freaking awesome site

Subforums would be cool.. I would like to see a subforum for the east coast states like Vermont, Rhode Island, Maine, etc.
 

TheStrainMan

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Thanks for working with us because so many good people are getting needed info on where to find what kinds of strains. I research how different strains affect different medical conditions and how awesome it is to know where to find a clone that eases a specific illness.

and please enlighten us on how to self-police a thread? examples? Some of us may be open to that.
 

DoobieDuck

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I'd like to thank you guys for the great ideas we are seeing now in this thread...we'll forward and discuss these thouroghly..a quick referance for a thread where policing is working is SanDiego Cuts DD
 

subrob

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Thanks for working with us because so many good people are getting needed info on where to find what kinds of strains. I research how different strains affect different medical conditions and how awesome it is to know where to find a clone that eases a specific illness.

and please enlighten us on how to self-police a thread? examples? Some of us may be open to that.
--a couple times in the first few months of that particular thread there were some peeps who flat out came in and asked to trade clones w specific members etc...the mods stepped in and corrected said member(s) and the second or third time warned us specifically against certain things and told us it would get shut down if it didnt stop...by then it had become the "home thread" to many of us and when someone came in and stepped outta line he or she would immediately be told to stop..a few times i felt like a peacemaker cuz it got kinda harsh, especially if it was a repeat...but weve gotten it ironed out over time..still happens as new peeps come in...and i think we got a little more leeway from mods because of our willingness to stay on top of new mwembers...ITS AS POWERFUL IF NOT MORE WHEN IT COMES FROM PEERS RATHER THAN MODS....matter of fact, i know of at least one guy on the colorado threads that will be more than happy if asked to keep it policed up for y'all(right b?) cuz he helped keep ours in line for quite some time..now in fairness, there was also a med clone thread we could refer peeps too, and they had thier own mod to keep it in line and i cannot speak for what the exact rules in that thread were/are...i think we can all work this, i think management would like too..i like the seed idea, as long as it produces MORE seed stock for the server fund and not just shifting stock that would have gone in anyway...if a certain thread doesnt have many members and cant produce seed, maybe some of the brothers and sisters out here in cali can help out a lil bit extra..a chance for us to help others out...
 

DoobieDuck

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...ITS AS POWERFUL IF NOT MORE WHEN IT COMES FROM PEERS RATHER THAN MODS.......
I was wondering..the authority figure of a Mod is intimidating to some thus hard for them to co-operate with..but comming from peers a whole different story..thanks for posting..DD
 

SELFHEMPLOYED

सदस्य
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To clarify:

-are allowed to post where clones are available and what strains they are

-can post reviews of clones that we got from so and so dispensary

-CANNOT say something along the lines of I dropped off.... My cuts are available at...

- CANNOT advertise for any business own or try to attract business by advertising clones at a discount price

Does this sound right? Please correct me if wrong and I'll edit it to reflect correct info.

I'm not a business owner so have nothing to gain but fear I may accidently spam with out even knowing it. For example if I go to a dispensary and trade clones with them from my own personal garden am I allowed to say I picked up so and so and dropped off a few of my so and so at this dispensary so they may be able to find them there in the future?

Is this against policy?

No problem if it is, I just want to make sure I am following the rules so to speak.

Thanks
 

dmt

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as long as money is the only motivation, curruption and hypocrisy will be the outcome. if a non monitary gain is the motivation, and people are helped and not hurt, who cares. greed is beset by greed, charity will never complain. two sides of the coin will always be there. i wonder who is realy doing all the complaining??? cannabis is the worlds largest cash crop, and is only growing in popularity. to say that seed breeders are going broke because of some spam is hilarious. self importance is the root of all drama. never the less, house rules must always be respected. if i was a mod, i would never give a reason, only rules. now we all know self currupted seed breeders are bitching, the seed doesnt fall far from the tree, haha d
 

mean mr.mustard

I Pass Satellites
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The problem I see with people who aren't sick who get cards is the entire collapse of the mmj movement. Nothing like finding out the whole thing is a sham to shut down a corrupt system. If enough people get cards who aren't in need of medical cannabis the Feds will have a heyday with it.

Personally I think that crippling the movement just because somebody wants to take advantage of the ill isn't a very good motion.
 

JJScorpio

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To clarify:

-are allowed to post where clones are available and what strains they are

-can post reviews of clones that we got from so and so dispensary

-CANNOT say something along the lines of I dropped off.... My cuts are available at...

- CANNOT advertise for any business own or try to attract business by advertising clones at a discount price

Does this sound right? Please correct me if wrong and I'll edit it to reflect correct info.

I'm not a business owner so have nothing to gain but fear I may accidently spam with out even knowing it. For example if I go to a dispensary and trade clones with them from my own personal garden am I allowed to say I picked up so and so and dropped off a few of my so and so at this dispensary so they may be able to find them there in the future?

Is this against policy?

No problem if it is, I just want to make sure I am following the rules so to speak.

Thanks

You are correct. It's not like we asked a lot. We only asked for owners and suppliers to stop direct advertising in the forums.

I would also like to add that the "greed" as some say, works both ways. I guess it's real easy to think someone's being greedy when you know nothing regarding the costs involved with this site. Just like you guys argue why you sell the med weed so high, try paying bandwidth, server costs, tech support and much more. I swear some of you act like this site runs for free.

Anyways, we are working on something that might be arranged to open things up a little bit more regarding MMJ and dispensories. It may take a little bit of time but we'd like to get something started so we don't end up doing again what's been going on for the last couple days.
 

SCF

Bong Smoking News Hound
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Honestly. Guys. Lets stop this fighting. We are all here for the same reason. Yes there are a lot of people who can get medical marijuana for anything. But guess what. That's one step closer to legalization. If we dont do nothing now. We will settle for nothing later.

And as for this forum. This forum is here to HELP SICK PEOPLE WITH THEIR AILMENTS. Dr. Jay has helped me through so much crap. From Overgrow to here. One to two threads max on clones and documentation. IE PICTURES, SMOKE REPORTS ETC. From long contributing members will only be allowed. The rest of the threads i want to see about helping SICK PEOPLE. Get the help they so need. This fighting has to stop. Its not healthy and is scaring away the truly sick people. Like myself. I had to take a step back because of a lot of crap on here. Its time to clean up house. Enough is enough.......


Dr Jay. That's for you my man!

Now mind body and soul. Lets all find peace with this. I have some great ideas im gonna run past gypsy about possibly advertisement for some clubs etc. But they have to put up the money because this site is not free. But being a contributing member is always free. And a privilege not a right. So get that straight.

Peace and love,

SCF
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

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It isn't any of your business, but thank you for posting that. That's exactly the problem.

People fake to get a med card and then want Gypsy to foot the bill for their advertising because the same ones cry "I can't believe you are doing this to me".


I dont want gypsy to foot the bill, id be more than willing to pay to advertise here, but 700 per month, to reach a very limited demographic? The numbers arent simply there for it to be benefitial to my business. If I had the chance of reaching 100,000 patients that might be different, but id be pressed to think there would be anytyhing more than 300 patients on these forums. If gypsy wanted to do some sort of advertising as in renting sub forums out at a lower rate, I would be interested. Let me know.

-BhT (Colorado Care) :joint::joint:
 

trybud

Active member
Advertising with a banner isn't cost effective for a clone vendor as their product doesn't have the distribution necessary for it to be cost effective(i.e. no clones through the mail). Some sort of paid sub-forum (rented thread?) would be great if it could be worked out to be fair.
 
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