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rain defenses?

neongreen

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I may not need that greencure after all. It's been great here, with lots of sunshine, and should stay rain free for at least the next two days, if not more.

My plants are done, so any extra time is just time to fatten up.

Hope everybody else has a bit of good luck!
 
Nice looking tents.

I hope everyone is preparing for the heavy winds as well. In the San Francisco Bay area there is now a weather watch up for Monday night and Tuesday. I just decided to cut my last good plant tomorrow.
I'm faced with the predicament of whether or not to chop down my finishing Grape Ape (about 20% white hairs left.). It's starting to rain in the bay area and I already lost some nug to mold so I brought it in. I'll have to decide within a few hours whether or not to risk putting it back outside.
 

nomaad

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there are six tents in this cluster. there is another 3 plant/3 tent cluster on the other side of the garden. This pic was taken before everything was reinforced with 800 feet of nylon cable spiderwebbing from all the corners and tied off to the stumps of the harvested plants.
 

floater

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there's a lot of BS advice here.

in places where its getting cold, coverings don't work this time of year in my climate- total waste of time/bullshit. I've built poly-tunnels over plants during a record 5 day rain Oct. 12th-17th-ish four years ago. Remember that one, Northeasterners?

Covering doesn't do shit if the humidity is above 80% during late flowering- which is pretty much every night after Sept. 20th. dew/humidity kill buds with mold. it's a losing battle, unless you're in a Greenhouse with a heater.

heat is the only effective way fully combat bud rot. raise the temp of the environment 6 degrees above dewpoint, and you're below the 80% humidity threshold.

otherwise, you'll be picking mold, fighting a losing battle- or harvesting immediately.
 

nomaad

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LOL. thanks for coming in here and saving us from all the BS advice. we were lost until you decided to share your brilliant point of view.

So you're telling me that getting rainwater inside my dense buds doesn't raise the risk factors for botrytis and other flavors of fungal funk? what a jackass all of us norcal growers must feel like now that you've set us straight.

Can you teach me everything you know about growing? First, i have to go outside and take down all those tents so that my plants can get rained on.

Bud rot is not the only reason we keep the rain off our plants. There is this stuff called wind, its been around for a while- at least since the 70's. When your plants are weighed down with rainwater, they tend to snap when that wind stuff comes along in 40mph gusts.

But please, NOBODY FOLLOW THE BS ADVICE ON ICMAG. you're just wasting your time.

Oh how I just love people who think they are the smartest **** in the room...
 
What about keeping the plant inside at night and outside during the day if it's not too rainy? Or will there still be a risk of humididty being too high anyways?

I do have my next batch only three weeks into flower and I think I may need to transition them indoors.
 

gomer

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If you are talking about one portable plant, consider leaving it under cover until the rain passes. I don't know your situation, but if you can move your plant inside tonight then I would just leave it there for the next 30 hours if the storm forecast proves true. Put a fan on it and next to a window or put a couple of lights on it tomorrow.
 

baet

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today i built my structure! with the help of two friends and my dad. pvc posts in 5 gal buckets filled with rocks, one side of the structure 3 10 foot tall pvc posts, with a slanted roof going down to opposite side of 3 6 foot pvc posts in 5gals. made sum connections in the roof with more pvc, and pulled two 10x25' 4 mil plastic sheets over the top. and used a shit load of max duty black duct tape.

tonight it is goign to start raining, tomorow rain and wind, tomorow nite t storms possible, and wednesday rain. wednesday nite and thursday no rain yay!

i harvested two plants today, had mostly milky trichs, sum clear, and sum amber depending on branch, still quite a bit of white hair... its not really premature buti wishj they could of been up for a bit longer. have most plants under the HUGE makeshift greenhouse.

i really had no idea how big it was gonna be until we put up posts and started working. i immediately realized i had completely underestimated the whole size of this structure. its 18' long, 10 ft high on one side, and 10' wide. its huge when your down there at the spot. hopefullly it pulls through... :/ . 40-45 mph wind tomorow possibly ahh. i cut sum slits and little doors in the plastic to allow air flow thats caught under the sheeting to pass through to the outside with out creating a huge sail-effect. hopefully rain doesnt get on plants. alredy have a gararge full of branches and herb. could always put up more wire and clips though.

but damn the plants i still have in the ground need another two weeks to completely mature. i have two very big ones in the ground, another prettty big one in the ground, three 2 footers in pots, and another decent sized plant thats completely pulled over underneath the greenhouse. my main concern is heavy rain not being able to drain off roof good enuff and puddling up on the roof and somehow just finding a way to pour onto the plants, which could easily happen, this is my first greenhouse...

nomaad- looking good man, good luck! shit its gonna get hairy this next 48 hours...
 

nomaad

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looks like a likely 48hours of wet 18 hours of which will be hairy... where I am.

good luck.
 

roots

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teepees made with fallen branches and sheets of plastic... i got 30 hours to go fellas... we'll see what the damage is in the morning...
 

nomaad

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so far, tents are holding up. gusts seem strong but i have no way of calculating their speed. lot of spray getting in sideways. already having to re-spike tie downs here and there. dome-ish configuration seems to be somewhat effective.
 

zachrockbadenof

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LOL. thanks for coming in here and saving us from all the BS advice. we were lost until you decided to share your brilliant point of view.

So you're telling me that getting rainwater inside my dense buds doesn't raise the risk factors for botrytis and other flavors of fungal funk? what a jackass all of us norcal growers must feel like now that you've set us straight.

Can you teach me everything you know about growing? First, i have to go outside and take down all those tents so that my plants can get rained on.

Bud rot is not the only reason we keep the rain off our plants. There is this stuff called wind, its been around for a while- at least since the 70's. When your plants are weighed down with rainwater, they tend to snap when that wind stuff comes along in 40mph gusts.

But please, NOBODY FOLLOW THE BS ADVICE ON ICMAG. you're just wasting your time.

Oh how I just love people who think they are the smartest **** in the room...

i am no expert by a long shot, but after fighting bud rot every f..ing year for 4 years growing outdoors, i agree with floater... once the conditions are right for mold, there seems tobe no way to stop it. i'm using greencure, yet every day i'm picking off moldy buds.. i hate mold
 

nomaad

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many of us are in california. unless its raining its a lot dryer than it is in other places. if your atmospheric conditions are right for the rot, for sure... you'll get it. but the canopy itself is its own ecosystem with its own RH. excess water in your buds will raise the humidity and lead to bud rot.

all I am saying is that BS advice for one set of conditions is good advice for another.
 

baet

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its pretty rainy and windy out right now :O . going down there today, to see how were holding up. might cut off a ffew big branches, i guarantee some of them will get wet from wind blowing rain into the structure, maybe. im mainly worried about pooling water on top of structure, that is the only weak aspect i can think of on our structure. hmmm ill post after i check.

nomaad-yeah its not terribly windy yet, but supposidly where i am in butte co gusts of winds are supposed to get up to 55mph! thats fucken intense for the plants. yeah budrot is extremely rare where i am unless lots of rain. i could go far into november if it didnt rain, and sumtimes it doesnt. just have to cross your fingers and hope for the best weather has to offer. but yeah RH is always pretty low, budrot usually isnt an issue. does it get foggy where your at humboldt, or are you inland enough?? im really sad that alot of my sour dee mite have to be cut slightly premature... two of my sour dee x cheese plants have turned purp from the cold nights tho, so right on
 

nomaad

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no fog where i am. i am not in humboldt.

the worst winds were forecast for 5-8am. 27mph with gusts twice as high. I woke up at about 7 and repaired some minor issues. if that was the worst of it, i'm laughing.

not gonna get cocky yet though... on my toes, inspecting all my tie downs every hour. hope you're all having the same kind of luck.
 
If you are talking about one portable plant, consider leaving it under cover until the rain passes. I don't know your situation, but if you can move your plant inside tonight then I would just leave it there for the next 30 hours if the storm forecast proves true. Put a fan on it and next to a window or put a couple of lights on it tomorrow.

Bringing my budded plant indoors was the right call. I checked up on the plants I left outdoors overnight about an hour ago and they had the crap beaten out of them :)

I now moved them under some trees and overhanging roof but the storm is so rough out there I may just bring ALL my plants inside.


...aaand as I was typing this my lights just flickered like they were about to go out so I guess I can't count on consistent indoor light! fuck!
 
Advice to other newbie growers: don't be stupid like me. If you think you might need to tie your plants to a stake to keep the stem from bending over, BUY A STAKE AND TIE DOWN YOUR PLANTS! DON'T WAIT!

and just for reference I'm right near the water in the north bay (California of course) so I know some of yall know what I'm going through
 

uon

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hey guys. I am in Sacramento where we got almost 3 inches of rain today w/ pretty gusty winds. I am a novice grower (first season) with just 1 Blue Dream outdoors. The protection I set up for the plant yesterday (just a trap draped over 4 5ft rebar stakes & then staked down) failed over night and I woke up to my plant almost completely horizontal, some of the buds in the mud, and the entire plant soaked. I shook her off as best as I could, and covered it again as best as I can...yet strong winds are lifting up the tarp and she is still very wet.

The storm is supposed to pass tonight & the sun will be back out tomorrow, but I am wondering if I should harvest & put her in front of a space heater.

As of today she is 69 days into flowering. I was planning on harvesting next week.

Do I try to let her dry outdoors in the sun, or cut her down & try to minimize any loss due to mold?

Thank you.
 

nomaad

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I got mine for 30$ each. Those EZ ups would have saved me about 10 minutes on each tent... the tying down would have taken the same amount of time.
 
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