What ppm's would you consider moderate for bloom stage? I'm thinking of doing this. I use a ph meter with .5 calibration. 2 and 3 gallon pots. In veg with runoff, my girls liked 750 ppm's. In bloom with runoff, they got fert burn at 950 ppm's.
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What ppm's would you consider moderate for bloom stage? I'm thinking of doing this. I use a ph meter with .5 calibration. 2 and 3 gallon pots. In veg with runoff, my girls liked 750 ppm's. In bloom with runoff, they got fert burn at 950 ppm's.
I am a microgrower and I have to flush-I get 8000 ppms out of a beer cup towards the end of a grow if I do not (i just killed plants because I did not flush enough). I bottom feed the plants no more than 900ppm in flower in 100% coco. I like to flush every 3 weeks or once at the start of flower, once when flowers first form, and at the end of flowering.
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.
NICE whodi, real NICE.. I'm impressed with your results, and Rez/h3ads regimen for that matter.. For a no run off grow those buds look about as ripe, and nicely "flushed" as u coulda wanted them to be upon harvest..
I'm sure this may not be the best gh regimen for yield or pushing production/commercial plants to produce, but as far as efficiency, cost effectiveness, and obtaining qualities such as clean burn characteristics, and flavor this is as good a gh regimen as your gonna find for coco IMO.
For those that finish around the 60-65day mark this regimen seems to be perfectly dialed in. The dropping of the micro, and moderate dosages as it is made the need for a thorough flushing (putting lots of water through the containers) at the end non existent in the few grows I did with this regimen (my grows were all fed with a 10-15% run-off). u proved that even more with how nicely ur buds looked with this no run-off grow of yours, though any longer flowering varieties would end up falling very short on food towards the end with the regimen as is.. I'm curious if you tried the regimen on longer flower varieties yet, and how you may of tweaked the regimen to accomidate those extra weeks in flower? I've been extending the early flower 6/9 feedings a bit for those longer flowering varieties, but I'm always interested in learning other methods..
I'm sure this may not be the best gh regimen for yield or pushing production/commercial plants to produce, but as far as efficiency, cost effectiveness, and obtaining qualities such as clean burn characteristics, and flavor this is as good a gh regimen as your gonna find for coco IMO.
For those that finish around the 60-65day mark this regimen seems to be perfectly dialed in. The dropping of the micro, and moderate dosages as it is made the need for a thorough flushing (putting lots of water through the containers) at the end non existent in the few grows I did with this regimen (my grows were all fed with a 10-15% run-off). u proved that even more with how nicely ur buds looked with this no run-off grow of yours, though any longer flowering varieties would end up falling very short on food towards the end with the regimen as is.. I'm curious if you tried the regimen on longer flower varieties yet, and how you may of tweaked the regimen to accomidate those extra weeks in flower? I've been extending the early flower 6/9 feedings a bit for those longer flowering varieties, but I'm always interested in learning other methods..
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Haha, Oh no doubt the yields are more then exceptable whodi. It looks like you did very well this run
I'm just pretty sure I coulda pushed a bit harder with the feed on a few plants last run, and with the ease of flushing in coco I'm sure I coulda finished them up just as well by day 65. We'll see next time through. Last run I ran the regimen on a few different varieties, and one inparticular dropped the N a bit prematurely, and I'm sure my yields could of been better on those plants. Who knows, maybe if I didint run-off as much nutrient that wouldn't have been the case LOL
I had planned to try extending the micro at half dose a week or so longer into the regimen for those, same time I start bringing up the p-k with the liquid koolbloom.
Either way the regimen, gh nutes, and coco have opened me up to whole other level of feed control I didnt have before. It's been good fun so far getting the plants dialed in Considering I use to think step by step regimens and feeding with liquid ferts to be boring, I've certainly come a long way quickly LMAO...
I'm just pretty sure I coulda pushed a bit harder with the feed on a few plants last run, and with the ease of flushing in coco I'm sure I coulda finished them up just as well by day 65. We'll see next time through. Last run I ran the regimen on a few different varieties, and one inparticular dropped the N a bit prematurely, and I'm sure my yields could of been better on those plants. Who knows, maybe if I didint run-off as much nutrient that wouldn't have been the case LOL
I had planned to try extending the micro at half dose a week or so longer into the regimen for those, same time I start bringing up the p-k with the liquid koolbloom.Either way the regimen, gh nutes, and coco have opened me up to whole other level of feed control I didnt have before. It's been good fun so far getting the plants dialed in
Considering I use to think step by step regimens and feeding with liquid ferts to be boring, I've certainly come a long way quickly LMAO...
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around wk 4-5, they 1-2 feeds of cheapo alaska 5-1-1 fish & alaska 2-1-2 w/ b1... @ tbspn per gal. should supply decent amount of n for the duration...Mister Postman said:
foliar feeding n is ok too. n easily assimilated via leaves. just ph up to ~7.0+/~250 ppm (truncheon-type meter).
enjoy your garden!
puff adder
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I've recently finished 3 runs in my new room, all coco FTW with little to no runoff, 3 gallon pots with catch trays, using GH and something close to H3ads or lucas formula.
I've learned a lot. Veg PPM's were usually 600-650 and around 1000 in flower (140ppm tap water). I fed every 1 or 2 days, with a 1/8 strength feeding with runoff every 10 days. "runoff" being caught in catch trays and allowed to evaporate or sucked up by plants.
I checked runoff, but here's where I learned that the runoff numbers can weird. I found that watching the PH of the runoff was more important.
The solution that dried in the catch trays left accumulated salts, and I think that the nutes DO concentrate at the bottom of the pots, both of these contributed to the runoff PPM's being really high or off the chart.. I'd water with 1000ppm solution and runoff PPM's were usually 1400-1500-or higher, with everything being just fine.
Now I check runoff occasionally, and make sure the PH isn't off (usually 6.0 in, and 6.1 out) and I do my "flush" every week or 10 days, and plants are healthy and happy.
I've learned a lot. Veg PPM's were usually 600-650 and around 1000 in flower (140ppm tap water). I fed every 1 or 2 days, with a 1/8 strength feeding with runoff every 10 days. "runoff" being caught in catch trays and allowed to evaporate or sucked up by plants.
I checked runoff, but here's where I learned that the runoff numbers can weird. I found that watching the PH of the runoff was more important.
The solution that dried in the catch trays left accumulated salts, and I think that the nutes DO concentrate at the bottom of the pots, both of these contributed to the runoff PPM's being really high or off the chart.. I'd water with 1000ppm solution and runoff PPM's were usually 1400-1500-or higher, with everything being just fine.
Now I check runoff occasionally, and make sure the PH isn't off (usually 6.0 in, and 6.1 out) and I do my "flush" every week or 10 days, and plants are healthy and happy.
water-feed-water seems to re-constitute the dried/suspended nutes remaining after feeding.
yes, ph is far more important than ppms. can have 2000 ppms, & if solution is buffered & chelated, the plants will only take what they want (mostly water)... only 4% of the plant is nutes; the rest is hydrogen, carbon, oxygen & water...
humic/fulvic acid works very well for buffering higher ppm solutions...
enjoy your garden!
runn off who needs it........
wick system for me.. the plants are lovin it ..
11 liter pots in 3 gal square buckets..
runn off who needs it........
wick system for me.. the plants are lovin it ..
11 liter pots in 3 gal square buckets..
...once roots established, can bottom-feed exclusively, though do top-feed ~1 time per week.
if have any issues w/ sludge accumulation, or odors, mix a spayer bottle of 10:1-5:1 hydrogen peroxide & spray into mini-res. will get rid of issues. occasionally sraying micro-fiber towel w/ h202 will also prevent build-up.
by wk 4-5 of flowering, they will easily drink that amount of water daily; the bottom will be dry by next day...
humic acid always good to buffer solution...
nice work... plant will never be under/over-watered. will only draw up what it wants/needs. top-feeding once per weeks insures everything present...
enjoy your garden!
Strangely
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Vegan what are using as wicking material there mate? Some sort of towel? Mistress mentioned this in one of her threads when I was first having a look into this method (which looks the tits and is top of my list!).
I wonder if nappy material 'Terry Toweling' or whatever it' was called/is called these days would be good?
I wonder if nappy material 'Terry Toweling' or whatever it' was called/is called these days would be good?
cheapo micro fiber towels work ok for wicking...
@ most general stores, home improve stores, dollar, & auto parts stores/sections...
also micro fiber mops, cleaning supplies, etc...
can visibly do+see by using kool aid & measure capillary action as water goes upstream...
hope this helps. enjoy your garden!
iam using a poly cotton towel that has been around the garden for a while/// i couldn't find my frigging rope..i did get some microfiber for the rest of the pots I have to get up and running
rope is cheapo & works very well.
