C-99 phenos

[medicine_man_bc]

why dont we have a grow off???

 

[medicine_man_bc]

read the c-99 story man, they arent my words, but the words of the breeder himself. that material stands above your opinion, dont you see?

 

[mexilandrace]

not being able to read your idiotic self aggrandizing posts is sweeter than smoking a bowl of real cindy, which you never have. lol

 

[medicine_man_bc]

sensi seeds jh is not a stable hybrid, nor was the seeds soul started from the bud, but it did finish fast, so it means its the indica jack pheno is princess. its not complicated

 

[medicine_man_bc]

are there any unbiased informative people out there?

 

[BENJI]

Just because a strain finishes fast doesnt necessarily means its indica dominant there are other factors besides flowering time...

My Jack Herer clone finishes in 8-9 weeks and its far from indica dominant...

Are you basing your opinion on experience...?

 

[medicine_man_bc]

my experience is that some jacks(i dom) finish in 50 days< others take 70-75 days (sat dom). if c99 is 99% princess, it means princess came from a i dom jack. i dom does not mean "no haze", it means the pheno is stockier and faster finishing, these c99 i have look exactly like i dom jacks, which is what princess is described to be by the breeder. if people think jh is a pure sative, relating it to princess, they are wrong. jh, to be quick, is a nl/skunk/haze, and its offspring show gnarley variations of the parents, all my peers and i consider the i dom jack sacred, cuz it takes flowering out a whole wack of seeds to find a mom. unlike the real c99 which is a stable i dom jack based on "the breeders" description and all these folks talking about phenos??? if its 99% princess, u need to sprout 100 seeds to get a variation??? so what gives?

 

[medicine_man_bc]

this info is unbiased, it is actual factual. based on the breeder and my own experience

 

[medicine_man_bc]

a jack that finishes in 50 days, if stablised like the breeder described, is still a 50 day finish jack. which means it is morea nl/skunk pheno then the stringy haze pheno which to the medical community is very undesirable

 

[medicine_man_bc]

ps, i have no opinions, this is all researched info im trying to brainstorm on

 

[DonkDBZ]

C99 that were said to be F4's of Bro Grimm original stock -- DonkDBZ sorry you had such bad luck, as these were from the same source. I only popped 6 and got 3 male / 3 female. All three females were great in their own way, and "pheno one" below ended up a spectacular keeper that was pretty much done (80% cloudy..like my sativas heady) at day 45 and was the biggest yielder of the three, to boot. And I still have 14 beans left to pop... guess it's like baseball cards.. sometimes you get a good pack, sometimes you get all "got it's":

Well I am not too worried about getting 7 fems cause they all look and smell great. Plus i only need to pick one or for my keeper anyways. I am gonna try and pick up the F2's that should be released soon and chuck some F4 pollon at em.

My Jock Horror finishes in 7 weeks and has a sativa high with a very skunky smell.

 

[medicine_man_bc]

i guess christianity is the ultimate truth because 2 billion people agree that is, hey mexicrack? opinions and beleifs are not "facts" a fact is an undeniable varifiable truth. so if c99 is a stable i dom strain like mr soul says, why do you claim its a sativa? there is a contradiction here. i aint saying it doesnt have a sativa high, because all jacks do, but that is not the subject at hand. the seeds i have are from bros grimm, so i guess they are selling knock offs of their own strain?

 

[Vorsprung]

who is right then, vorsprung or landrace? this aint a big deal to me, i just wanted facts from people whom have grown it, because what Mexi is saying doesnt line up with the breeders story, il know for a fact when they finish in about 8-10 weeks. just wanted some insight. im sure the high is sative, why would the og breeder claim it look es indica?????

Jack Herer is like 70 or 80% Sativa...so I don't understand your argument. I agree with Landrace, and neither of us are wrong. There ARE 'indica leaning' phenos but that's about as close to an indica as you're gonna get with C99, especially what Bros Grimm wanted C99 to be with Princess --> a stabilized fast flowering sativa.

 

[Vorsprung]

with my best judgement and info from all the growers i know in person,that the jh which finishes in 45-50 days is indica dom, crossed to a 100% indica, then stablised to the original parent to 99% would make it indica dom, i care not of the high, but growth patters, savey????

Medicine man, read this again from the story:

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"Haze is my favourite high. Very “trippy” C-99 is has more of the Haze type of high because the mother (Princess), has that kind of high"
--

Mr. Soul was intentionally trying to replicate princes - the HAZE (not indica, HAZE) type high that THE MOTHER PRINCESS HAS.

Shiva skunk was used to pollinate but it was back crossed so many times to princess it stabilized into a sativa. It is obviously not a 100% pure sativa, but the entire project was to replicate princess - a highly sativa HAZE.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

The pheno I have of C-99 is 70 days at least.

I got to thinking about it and took a second look.... about 5% amber LOL
67 days.

 

[Vorsprung]

these people have opinions that go against the breeders story. i'm looking for facts. the seeds were a gift from a friend and im interestd in the lineage, i let my ego not get involved in these discussions. if they arent c99 i dont care the way u would. if princess finishes in 50 days, she aint the sat dom jack, but the i dom. it doesnt mean there is no haze high. a fast jack is indica dom, what dont you understand?

i don't think your friend gave you C99 beans. sorry man.

 

[Vorsprung]

ps, i have no opinions, this is all researched info im trying to brainstorm on

that is obvious, and why we're all here -- to learn. The simple fact is most 'named strains' while they do have a history, can't have the exact phenotypical genetic code outlined in black and white. Everyone grows subjectively and describes traits in their own way.

I think you're projecting your hope of what you want it to be (indica dom with haze high). Unfortunately, that is not what it is, or what the original breeder intended it to be.

 

[medicine_man_bc]

jack is extremely unstable, i thank the gods everyday that someone made a 50 day jack available. sensi seeds says its a multiple hybrid, no where does anyone claim it to be 70 or 80. i have no opinion to argue, just facts im presenting forth. if a jack finishes in 50 days, its leaning toward the nl/skunk in its pedigree, because of its instability, some can go for 75 days. now, what you just said "c99 pheno" is a cantradiction to mr soul. his cross is an f-5 making it stable-99% cindy. there realy is no "leaning" with f-5 or f-6 stable hybrids, hence the name stable. so with that being said, why all the "pheno talk" about c99, its an ibl now

 

[medicine_man_bc]

okay, respect, i get what you are saying, mr soul is talking about a high, not the look, do you dig me man, my friend, whom is addament on this issue says his friend in calgary bred an f-6 and sent them to me directly, smaller seeds, mottled not striped, indica style growth, im sure the high is what it is claimed, and yes, i am hoping for the best cuz it takes forever to find the holy grail jack fro ssb because of its instability

 

[medicine_man_bc]

dude, an indica plant (50 days)with a haze high is exactly what the breeder intended